Who should've ended the nWo: Sting or Goldberg?

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Okay, WCW had not one but TWO chances to end the nWo once and for all before they jumped the shark. Lucking out with both Sting and Goldberg, WCW could've ended it, but they just had to stretch it out.

But let's say it did end, who should've been really responsible for the end of the nWo?

Sting: Starrcade 1997. We all know the story. Over 1 year of mind games, false alliances, and then the big match. It was WCW's biggest show of the year and basically this was no better time to reset storylines with Sting being the conquerer once and for all for WCW. Then the nWo self-destructs, and if they must have the Wolfpac vs. nWo feud, just do it without the nWo name. nWo members either feud with each other or other WCW guys. nWo would be dead and gone with Sting destroying each guy one by one who interferes during the Starrcade match.

Goldberg: Nitro 1998. He is riding a monsterous win streak. Going in as US Champion he gets his one shot at Hogan. He destroys other nWo members earlier in the night. If you didn't agree with Sting ending the nWo once and for all, what about this powerhouse? He finishes off Hogan in powerful fashion in a much better finish than the Starrcade match. Then the summer of 1998 is all about Goldberg and nothing else. nWo is considered dead because Goldberg killed them off.

So here we have two moments where two WCW guys ended Hogan's title run which symbolically is the end of the nWo reign of terror. We all know it continued for years in WCW, but if it did end, which moment was a better fitting end for the demise of the nWo?

[lez 3:16]

i'd say sting cause nwo was a shell of their former self when goldberg was running over the wcw roster.

[RowdyRobbyPiper]

I chose Sting at Starrcade. WCW audiences weren't receptive to Hogan-as-babyface-style "happy ending" finishes (as done by Hogan), but this was one "happy ending" finish that they wanted. If it was Vince, he would have given it to them. But Eric and WCW did not want to ruin their cash cow. Yet, the company wound up paying for it in the end.

[Mayonnaise]

Sting at Starrcade. The nWo could have stuck around as a shell of itself to protect Hogan (think 4 Horsemen but, no where near as talented) so he could have faced Goldberg later but, there was no reason for it to continue past Dec. 97.

["I'm Batman..."]

Sting.

[Ryushinku]

They did have that second chance with Goldberg, but they shouldn't have blown the first one with Sting.

Or blew the second either, but hey ho.

[surferrosa12]

I'm gonna go with Goldberg here. I feel like Sting's angle came way too early to kill off the nWo, in retrospect. If Goldberg was booked correctly, there's no telling how WCW's fortunes could have changed.

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The nWo should have been utterly squashed at Starrcade '97, no way around it.

[DragonMasterP]

Starrcade 97 should have been the end. I think the fiasco it ended up becoming was one of the earliest nails in WCW's coffin.

[thegame415]

Sting should've caused the beginning of the end for the NWO. The NWO starts feuding with eachother. Much of early '98 should've been Hogan vs Nash and Sting vs Hart. Goldberg and DDP rise up to main event status. You could've still done a whole wolfpac thing, just with the current NWO members. It could've been Nash, Hall, Konnan.

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Sting should have dealt them their first blow, causing them to have to regroup and refocus.

Then a year later Goldberg should have murdered them one by one until he reached the end of the line and became WCW Champion.

Then he has a couple respectful title defences while they build Raven, who would then become his arch nemesis, at least for a while.

[SAJ Forth]

Not outright end it, but Sting should've dealt the group a bigger body blow.

[rocked]

If Sting ended it in 97, when he did, nwo would have. Even near perfect.

Bret should have battled Hogan throughout 98 also, post nwo. You can almost smell the money.

[eDemento2099]

Sting or DDP.

[El Dandy]

I think they should have started showing cracks after Starrcade '97 and they could have built up towards a bigger storyline towards 1998 leading into Fall Brawl: War Games by having a match with the stipulation that the nWo would cease to exist if WCW was victorious. None of the nWo Hollywood and Wolfpac crap would have been necessary (neither should have Sting and Luger, who fought the nWo since its existence, joined the Wolfpac).

Have a team of WCW's elite wrestle against the nWo and have Bret Hart remain an ambiguous member, unknowing of which side he would take. It would have drawn far greater heat leading to the event. WCW should have left Bret's intentions remain a mystery, maybe even have him play a tweener by having him not associate with either WCW or the nWo all year and consider himself a loner who can't trust anyone after the events of the screwjob.

Then, leading to the big event at War Games, have Bret align with the WCW group that includes Sting, Goldberg, DDP, Luger and the Giant going up against the nWo with Hogan, Hall, Nash, Scott Steiner and the Macho Man. Consider Bret as the "wildcard" who in the end deals the fatal blow to Hogan. This could then spawn off a big feud between Hogan and Hart that would and should have been a huge PPV draw. They could have done a lot of different angles by ending the nWo and having each member fend for himself as part of the WCW roster or form smaller factions or tag teams.

But alas, WCW would milk the nWo angle until its dying breath and well past its expiration date.

[Futureraven: Beelzebruv]

You could have Giant in a wildcard role there, given how many times he flip flopped, who would trust him?

[Cela]

Sting should have broken it, Goldberg should have finished it off.

[Starshine]

The Four Horsemen.

In my head, Sting should have won the title from Hogan cleanly. Then after Hogan fails at getting the belt back at Superbrawl the group begins to splinter. They start kicking the lower guys out, and others just walk away until you're left with only four or so guys left.

Then they atart a proper feud with the reformed Horsemen which ends at Fall Brawl in a wargames match with a stipulation of the losing team forced to disband for good. The Horsemen win and the NWO goes down in flames.

[joebob27]

Jan 17, 2012 16:09:41 GMT -5 El Dandy said:

I think they should have started showing cracks after Starrcade '97 and they could have built up towards a bigger storyline towards 1998 leading into Fall Brawl: War Games by having a match with the stipulation that the nWo would cease to exist if WCW was victorious. None of the nWo Hollywood and Wolfpac crap would have been necessary (neither should have Sting and Luger, who fought the nWo since its existence, joined the Wolfpac).

Have a team of WCW's elite wrestle against the nWo and have Bret Hart remain an ambiguous member, unknowing of which side he would take. It would have drawn far greater heat leading to the event. WCW should have left Bret's intentions remain a mystery, maybe even have him play a tweener by having him not associate with either WCW or the nWo all year and consider himself a loner who can't trust anyone after the events of the screwjob.

Then, leading to the big event at War Games, have Bret align with the WCW group that includes Sting, Goldberg, DDP, Luger and the Giant going up against the nWo with Hogan, Hall, Nash, Scott Steiner and the Macho Man. Consider Bret as the "wildcard" who in the end deals the fatal blow to Hogan. This could then spawn off a big feud between Hogan and Hart that would and should have been a huge PPV draw. They could have done a lot of different angles by ending the nWo and having each member fend for himself as part of the WCW roster or form smaller factions or tag teams.

But alas, WCW would milk the nWo angle until its dying breath and well past its expiration date.

I agree with this premise for the most part, it just can't END. You need to write the ending story afterwards. This is what they botched. By this point there were 800 people in the nWo, do they all just pick up and go home? Obviously, no, so you need to do a storyline that peels the layers off, leaves the core and then kills off the core.

Then you can integrate everything back into one "product" more or less.

WWE botched this same concept the opposite way with the "Invasion" storyline. They just abruptly killed off the group and then everything is back to normal. That doesn't work either.

[rocked]

But it did Peel off with wolfpac, red, stevie ray etc. But I see your logic.

It would have been class to end up with the original three again, getting paranoid with each other. But a 3 way blowoff match would have been awkward.