Allie Kitsune
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Oct 28, 2011 8:58:15 GMT -5
I used to think that when you "grew up" you did put kid stuff behind and I hated that notion. In the past adults seemed to listen to classical or serious music, and I'm talking way back because that's what was around. then we had adults that grew up on rock'n'roll and now we have ones that grew u on White Zombie. Times change and "adults" aren't what they were 30 or 50 years ago. f*** him. A lot of it depends on the expectations your family has for you. My family is very cold and businesslike, and expected everyone to be all business from a young age.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2011 9:44:53 GMT -5
Am I the only one who thinks its funny?
A guy who dresses up and pretends to be a wizard and mad scientist is telling everyone else to stop being so dorky?
He's got to be winding people up.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Oct 28, 2011 9:58:37 GMT -5
Am I the only one who thinks its funny? A guy who dresses up and pretends to be a wizard and mad scientist is telling everyone else to stop being so dorky? He's got to be winding people up. Unless you're in Vancouver Hollywood, the money's in MAKING the costumes, not wearing them.
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Post by HMARK Center on Oct 28, 2011 10:33:27 GMT -5
I wonder if more of the rant (I don't really know the guy, so whatever) isn't about liking certain things, but more about what one's priorities are.
If that's the argument, I can certainly understand it, as I'm guilty of this, as well: a lot of us have grown up into "extended adolescence", where we're more concerned about <insert pop culture/meme/fad here> than we are about being smart with our money, furthering education, staying abreast of important current events, taking more responsibility, etc.
I'd also say that's a pretty harsh stereotype of people, but I don't think it's crazy to think that priorities have changed quite a bit in recent times.
If it's just a rant to say "Like adult TV shows!", then it's idiotic. The procedural crime investigation shows that pollute TV are derivative and not exactly what I'd call "mature". Plus, a liking of some kind of "geeky" thing (I know mine is animation, hence my beginning work in voiceovers) does not automatically make one less likely to watch classic films or what have you.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2011 10:40:19 GMT -5
I just went back and read it and it sounds like he's bitter that he has to take roles like the Lizard and that he feels like he's lost his dignity as an actor because comic fans demand comic movies.
Aside from the fact that comic movies aren't made for comic fans at all, but really for the general public - his arguement really falls apart because no one is holding a gun to his head and forcing him to take these roles.
You can be an actor, make a living and not take those roles - you just can't be a multi-millionaire, red carpet celeb.
I think Zach Galifinakis said it best when he interviewed Bruce Willis, "You know, there are actors who turn down roles."
Hopefully this guy gets some help though, it sounds like he's in a bad way right now.
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Post by VenomFang on Oct 28, 2011 10:43:52 GMT -5
I just went back and read it and it sounds like he's bitter that he has to take roles like the Lizard and that he feels like he's lost his dignity as an actor because comic fans demand comic movies. Its gonna be a really shitty performance if thats the attitude he has.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Oct 28, 2011 11:33:15 GMT -5
IMO being an adult means no longer caring about what others think of your hobbies.
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Post by Baixo Astral on Oct 28, 2011 11:51:58 GMT -5
As an adult, you are supposed to like what you want to like - basically, to totally alter what Alastair Crowley said, do what thou wilt, within the law. However, you must also be adult enough to suffer the slings and arrows of those who dislike what you like, and to understand that they have no obligation to be nice and understanding about something you care about. For instance, I like exploitation movies, comic books, wrestling, and horror. I understand that this isn't everyone's cup of tea, and that at Christmas I will frequently receive incongruous gifts from relatives who can't understand that what is on my Christmas list is what I really do want. Also, I accept that it means I will encounter people who find my interests to be strange online, and will mock me.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2011 11:56:55 GMT -5
From what I can gather, at least where I'm from, if you're a man, you're supposed to like football, hunting, and drinking. If you're a woman, you've got a bad case of baby fever. I've also noticed that when you become an adult around here, you tend to forget basic spelling and grammar while you post nothing but bumper sticker slogans and chain statuses on Facebook. Your TV habits consist of reality shows, Law and Order, and CSI clones. I know, I'm awfully bitter too. Mostly because my friends and I are nothing like that at all, and are treated as strange because of it. Without going into details, politics and religion are seemingly the only things you're supposed to like as an adult. Anything else is childish. Art too, don't forget art. If you can prove that anything belongs in the arts, it gets almost immediate acceptance. If it's normal, it's mainstream. If it's anything that most people consider weird, it's praised as avant-garde. I'm trying to do this with wrestling, but it's difficult because a lot of people don't treat it as an art, but instead as the bastard sport that it is currently destined to remain. It's funny, but where I'm from, especially as an adult, if you like the arts, you're definitely thought of as some sort of abnormal weirdo. Fortunately, there is something of a small arts community around my town, so at least a little niche to fit into.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Oct 28, 2011 12:00:15 GMT -5
From what I can gather, at least where I'm from, if you're a man, you're supposed to like football, hunting, and drinking. If you're a woman, you've got a bad case of baby fever. I've also noticed that when you become an adult around here, you tend to forget basic spelling and grammar while you post nothing but bumper sticker slogans and chain statuses on Facebook. Your TV habits consist of reality shows, Law and Order, and CSI clones. I know, I'm awfully bitter too. Mostly because my friends and I are nothing like that at all, and are treated as strange because of it. Art too, don't forget art. If you can prove that anything belongs in the arts, it gets almost immediate acceptance. If it's normal, it's mainstream. If it's anything that most people consider weird, it's praised as avant-garde. I'm trying to do this with wrestling, but it's difficult because a lot of people don't treat it as an art, but instead as the bastard sport that it is currently destined to remain. It's funny, but where I'm from, especially as an adult, if you like the arts, you're definitely thought of as some sort of abnormal weirdo. Fortunately, there is something of a small arts community around my town, so at least a little niche to fit into. I think that needs to be clarified as "Art made before the year 1700".
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2011 12:03:46 GMT -5
Also, when I was a kid, everyone constantly told me that one day I would "grow out of" things like cartoons, collecting toys, comics, and video games. I couldn't be more proud to say that I've never lost a bit of interest in any of those things. I showed them! They saw! [/stevierichards] Well... let's see... I'm 22 years old, yet I watch wrestling (largely aimed at kids), watch My Little Pony (definitely aimed at kids, specifically girls) and play video games for hours a day (most of them non-violent). I guess if you've got a problem with that and consider it all childish, then middle fingers to you, sonny jim. +1
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Oct 28, 2011 12:15:07 GMT -5
If it's just a rant to say "Like adult TV shows!", then it's idiotic. The procedural crime investigation shows that pollute TV are derivative and not exactly what I'd call "mature". Plus, a liking of some kind of "geeky" thing (I know mine is animation, hence my beginning work in voiceovers) does not automatically make one less likely to watch classic films or what have you. And really, what qualifies as "mature" entertainment? There's a lot of classic literature that I think would have gotten a mixed critical reception due to over-the-top melodrama if released today.
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Post by MrBRulzOK on Oct 28, 2011 15:49:53 GMT -5
You should enjoy what you enjoy regardless of age. There is no set requirement for what one should enjoy and what one shouldn't regardless of how old you are. There's nothing wrong with being an old man who still enjoys watching cartoons or a child who enjoys watching soap operas.
Anyone who thinks there should be a set standard in what people enjoy is a fool. As long as it doesn't hinder you in any sense and as long as it's legal then just enjoy whatever the heck you want.
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Post by FinalGwen on Oct 28, 2011 15:53:55 GMT -5
I'm in a bit of a grumpy mood, and I just read Rhys Ifans' rant from Comic Con this year where he pretty much laid into everyone of the geeky or nerdy persuasion like they were lepers. So what are we supposed to like, mister? Granted, this is sort of preaching to the choir at a sufficiently geeky board like this, but... really, is there some sort of an ideal of personal tastes or hobbies that leaves you immune to being judged and condescended? Because I'm tired of absolutely everything I enjoy being vehemently hated by seemingly everyone else. You're supposed to engage yourself in stupid conspiracy theories about how Shakespeare didn't actually write any of his plays, because it was obviously someone upper class who wrote them. Nobody working class would be intelligent enough. There's no need to pay attention to the opinions of such a stupid little man as Ifans. He's obviously just rather depressed that hundreds of years hence, everybody will still remember Shakespeare, but his name won't be remembered at all.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2011 15:58:10 GMT -5
From what I can gather, at least where I'm from, if you're a man, you're supposed to like football, hunting, and drinking. If you're a woman, you've got a bad case of baby fever. I've also noticed that when you become an adult around here, you tend to forget basic spelling and grammar while you post nothing but bumper sticker slogans and chain statuses on Facebook. Your TV habits consist of reality shows, Law and Order, and CSI clones. I know, I'm awfully bitter too. Mostly because my friends and I are nothing like that at all, and are treated as strange because of it. Art too, don't forget art. If you can prove that anything belongs in the arts, it gets almost immediate acceptance. If it's normal, it's mainstream. If it's anything that most people consider weird, it's praised as avant-garde. I'm trying to do this with wrestling, but it's difficult because a lot of people don't treat it as an art, but instead as the bastard sport that it is currently destined to remain. It's funny, but where I'm from, especially as an adult, if you like the arts, you're definitely thought of as some sort of abnormal weirdo. Fortunately, there is something of a small arts community around my town, so at least a little niche to fit into. Fair enough; a lot of my friends are artists, even some of my family, and I live just outside a major city, so I exist in a sort of artistic community, and not everyone has that situation. But more often than not, artistic things seem to get almost universal praise.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2011 10:40:03 GMT -5
Dads: sit in their "spot" (recliner, couch, place on the floor in front of the TV - my dad would lie in front of the TV), watching Andy Griffith or the Evening News. Because the President might start screaming to his staff, "We can't figure this out! Call Mr. Smith of Grand Prairie Nebraska; he's been watching the news! See what HE can do!"
Moms: sit at the kitchen table, reading and listening to local radio while doing the crossword puzzle.
In my parents' home, you do NOT take the newspaper unless Mom is done/finished with the puzzle. (To clarify, both do not mean the same thing. Done means she completed it. Finished means she's had enough. Good news to hear if she can't complete a Monday puzzle, as it gets progressively more difficult as the week goes on. By Wednesday, she won't even try and you get the paper right off the stoop.)
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Post by Bo Rida on Oct 29, 2011 11:12:10 GMT -5
I wonder if more of the rant (I don't really know the guy, so whatever) isn't about liking certain things, but more about what one's priorities are. If that's the argument, I can certainly understand it, as I'm guilty of this, as well: a lot of us have grown up into "extended adolescence", where we're more concerned about <insert pop culture/meme/fad here> than we are about being smart with our money, furthering education, staying abreast of important current events, taking more responsibility, etc. I'd also say that's a pretty harsh stereotype of people, but I don't think it's crazy to think that priorities have changed quite a bit in recent times. That argument bugs the hell out of me when it’s said by older people born at the ideal time, they got free education, could walk straight into a job which they could feasibly have for life and were often allocated council houses that they later purchased at a hugely reduced price. (It’s OK if it’s said by the older generation that was around in WW2 though) To bring this back on topic that generation seems to like to talk about house prices and boasting about their kids in a backhanded way (ie My little Jimmy is out doing god knows what with god knows who = My Little Jimmy is so popular).
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Oct 30, 2011 10:16:25 GMT -5
f***ing little jimmies....
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Post by The Line on Oct 30, 2011 10:17:12 GMT -5
I don't know what posts I like more in this thread. The "my shows suck? well, YOUR SHOWS SUCK!" posts, or the ones that the standards for adulthood haven't changed since 1958 (especially for the women. YIKES!)
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Post by Bob Schlapowitz on Oct 30, 2011 10:25:43 GMT -5
On the other hand, 80s music is practically oldies now, so at least my love for new wave and hair metal keeps me somewhat mature (posted while playing unreal tournament). 80's music is played heavily on our "Oldies" station now, and early 90's rock has started being played on the "Classic Rock" station. I heard Enter Sandman on a classic rock station recently.
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