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Post by héad.casé on Sept 1, 2011 20:19:48 GMT -5
What does everyone think of this album? I don't think it's that bad personally, I like the title track and 'Better'. After being hyped so much for so many years, I kinda felt let down. I don't think i'd have felt that way if Axl didn't take so long to release it.
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Post by Bishblast on Sept 1, 2011 20:22:32 GMT -5
I'm sure most people expected it to be as bad as it was. Really... if you've seen or heard Axl in the last decade, there's no hope for the guy as a singer anymore.
As an album, though, and everything else put aside... it sounds like any hair metal band would put out as a last ditch attempt to cash in on their name.
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Post by britishbulldog on Sept 1, 2011 20:29:05 GMT -5
I actually think it is the best album since Appetite.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2011 20:31:50 GMT -5
I don't care for Guns & Roses anyway, so not really the best person to weigh in on it. Though I will say I read this as Chinese Damacy and that would be way better.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2011 20:31:52 GMT -5
Awesome album.
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Post by biafra on Sept 1, 2011 20:52:49 GMT -5
If the name on the cover said "Axl Rose" instead of G 'n' R and had been released mid - late nineties people would see it for the fantastic recording it is. People are too hung up on the thirteen years/no Slash,Duff etc BS to give it a fair listen IMO.
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Sept 1, 2011 20:57:09 GMT -5
It's actually a pretty damn good album, but because of the million delays, and bulls*** that went on would've had to be Zepplin II levels of awesome for it to get the respect it deserved.
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Post by Bushwick on Sept 1, 2011 21:34:54 GMT -5
It's a damn good album. You can give it flack for all of the surrounding drama, but the music on the album is very good. Unfortunately the terrible wait made it impossible to live up to the hype no matter what it sounded like, some fans make too big of a deal over it not being the old GN'R, and it didn't set the world on fire in sales like it should have because of the weird Best Buy-only release I think it got.
Most of the songs range from good to very good. I knew a lot of them for years from live concerts and bootlegs, so it was awesome hearing the final versions of "Street of Dreams", "Madagascar", and "Catcher in the Rye".
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Post by Orange on Sept 1, 2011 21:43:20 GMT -5
Not as bad as everybody said it was, but given the ridiculous wait time I can understand people's frustration.
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Post by J.O.B. Squad on Sept 1, 2011 21:53:23 GMT -5
I think it is a pretty good album and for anyone who doesn't have it yet it still should be on sale in best buys for $1.99,Same goes for the vinyl of it as well.
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Post by eDemento2099 on Sept 1, 2011 22:13:54 GMT -5
It's a damn good album if you can get past the fact that it doesn't sound like classic GN'R and that it took over a decade to come out. Honestly, if people listened to the album in a blind test (not knowing who wrote and performed the music and/or how long the album was being worked on), I think most true rock fans would give it pretty good ratings.
I think the pre-album live renditions of "Madagascar" outshine the studio version, though.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2011 22:41:03 GMT -5
I thought it was great. I guarantee that if it was released as an Axl solo album instead of a G'N'R album it would not get hated on like it does.
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Post by eDemento2099 on Sept 2, 2011 0:07:09 GMT -5
"There Was a Time" is an epic Chinese Democracy track, on par with such GN'R epics as "Estranged" and "November Rain."
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Post by Libertine on Sept 2, 2011 2:08:04 GMT -5
Didn't like it at first, but now I seriously love it. People who think it would be better served by being released as an Axl Rose album or under a different need to stop worrying about things that don't actually matter. People just want an excuse to moan about something really. Yes, it's completely over-the-top and there's about a million different things going on in each song...but it's great.
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Post by Tim on Sept 2, 2011 2:32:21 GMT -5
Love it. Especially 'Sorry', 'There Was a Time', and 'Catcher in the Rye'. 'Shackler's Revenge' and 'IRS' are pretty good too. Hell, pretty much the whole album is a good listen.
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Post by nate5054 on Sept 2, 2011 3:13:42 GMT -5
Not as bad as everybody said it was, but given the ridiculous wait time I can understand people's frustration. I haven't heard it but I agree. If you wait 13 years or whatever to release something it damn well better be the next Sgt. Pepper's or something of that quality.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Sept 2, 2011 7:23:17 GMT -5
I adore this album.
- Anyone expecting it to sound anything like Guns N' Roses' previous work was delusional anyway. If you approach it just as an album by any band, it's pretty great. - It was the finest mixing job I've ever heard. Every song has a huge amount of overdubbing but you can hear EVERYTHING that they recorded on every track. It's brilliant. - And at the end of the day, I just love most of the songs - 'Better' and 'Madagascar' particularly.
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Post by MGH on Sept 2, 2011 9:20:00 GMT -5
I've listened to it a couple of times, and I still think it's pretty bad.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2011 9:25:44 GMT -5
It's great, I am a huge lover of the production style/writing of the Use Your Illusion albums (albeit they could be combined to a great 12 track album) and the development of Axl's songwriting is nice to look at. It's one of their very few consistent albums too, there's no outrigh awful moments.
Songs I'd put on a best of for GnR: Madagascar There Was A Time Street of Dreams IRS
In fact I think as I've grown up and fallen less in love with Appetite, I have to say it's much better than that.
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Post by probable on Sept 2, 2011 9:32:27 GMT -5
NO album could live up to that hype with the wait. In wrestling terms, it was Sabu vs Taz at Barely Legal. There is such a thing as over hype.
A lot of critics (and by proxy, board posters who like to think they're somehow critics) get fed up of waiting and feel patronised by excessive hype and frankly begin carving their knives before the product is even out.
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