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Post by rapidfire187 on Feb 2, 2012 0:13:16 GMT -5
No, not a match at Mania. Just a simple idea to help Punk catch back some of the heat he lost to HHH over the summer. Have Punk bring up HHH's history with Chyna. As far as I know, they have never acknowledged that situation on TV. Punk could just make a snide remark about tweets from a crazy ex, but I think it'd be more effective if he framed it as HHH leaving her for Stephanie and a permanant job and ruined her life.
I hate giving the crazy bitch any attention but I do think it would be worth it just to give Punk a little bit of his edge back. I'm not suggesting that they make an angle out of it, just a small moment. I would mark out for it personally.
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Feb 2, 2012 0:27:11 GMT -5
I dunno. Chyna's ego and everything with Sean Waltman seems to have eroded her reputation among long time fans (who are Punk's main fanbase), so I doubt she's sympathetic enough a figure anymore to make HHH look bad in that sense.
I think simpler would be better. More than his theory being wrong and more than their overbooked NoC match, what really hurt Punk's heat in that feud was Punk being the aggressor. HHH hired him back, Punk insulted him and charged him with conspiracy, and HHH decided to defend his honor. The fans understandably had a mixed reaction to that.
All Punk needs to do is get attacked by HHH and told that he doesn't have what it takes to carry the company. It makes Punk look sympathetic and HHH like a bully.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Feb 2, 2012 0:36:04 GMT -5
All Punk needs to do is get attacked by HHH and told that he doesn't have what it takes to carry the company. It makes Punk look sympathetic and HHH like a bully. People will still cheer Triple H over Punk, though. Trips is at a spot like Taker, he'd have to do something massively evil to get the crowd against him. Nothing against Punk, it's just guys like Trips and Taker are at that spot.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Feb 2, 2012 0:38:10 GMT -5
I've got a better idea - keep them as far apart as possible.
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Post by rapidfire187 on Feb 2, 2012 1:37:47 GMT -5
I dunno. Chyna's ego and everything with Sean Waltman seems to have eroded her reputation among long time fans (who are Punk's main fanbase), so I doubt she's sympathetic enough a figure anymore to make HHH look bad in that sense. I think simpler would be better. More than his theory being wrong and more than their overbooked NoC match, what really hurt Punk's heat in that feud was Punk being the aggressor. HHH hired him back, Punk insulted him and charged him with conspiracy, and HHH decided to defend his honor. The fans understandably had a mixed reaction to that. All Punk needs to do is get attacked by HHH and told that he doesn't have what it takes to carry the company. It makes Punk look sympathetic and HHH like a bully. I really would not mind a full blown corporate heel HHH vs CM Punk feud. Btw, I didn't mean to say that Chyna would be a sympathetic character, just that the mere act of bringing that up to HHH's face would be pretty ballsy and get a surprise reaction from the crowd. It's pretty much the most insulting thing a person could bring up about HHH.
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Post by corndog on Feb 2, 2012 3:03:50 GMT -5
I've got a better idea - keep them as far apart as possible. I second this, no point in seeing Punk lose to HHH again. While I was upset Punk lost to HHH, it is already over with and Punk has gained alot of steam since then. I think it was HHH feeling that Punk needed to pay his dues before his big push and because of HHH's position it was something that was going to happen. At this point it doesn't look like HHH is ever going to really put anyone over he isn't good friends with and until his retire he won't be booked to look weak. Punk is pretty much the top guy now and even though a win over HHH would be nice, it just isn't going to happen. There is nothing we can do about it and HHH will book himself this way until he retires. He has put himself in a spot to replace the Undertaker and will probably go on a few more years of being a special attraction at Wrestlemania until he retires. Let's just be happy Punk's loss is over with and behind him. He is not Jericho, who was never able to maintain the top spot due to HHH's constant interference and has only had one loss to the Franchise. Punk seems to be doing fine and surprisingly the WWE is 100% behind his current push. Another fued with HHH will just set Punk back again and that is not what he needs right now. The question is, "Who does Punk face at Wrestlemania?" and how can that help continue his rise in popularity and to being a top star for the rest of his WWE career.
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Post by flatsdomino on Feb 2, 2012 3:07:29 GMT -5
All Punk needs to do is get attacked by HHH and told that he doesn't have what it takes to carry the company. It makes Punk look sympathetic and HHH like a bully. People will still cheer Triple H over Punk, though. Trips is at a spot like Taker, he'd have to do something massively evil to get the crowd against him. Nothing against Punk, it's just guys like Trips and Taker are at that spot. I really don't think he is, though. And it's never been tested either. On a side note, I think he did a pretty good job of getting any heat he lost back twofold. He's pretty much been solidified as THE guy on Raw right now, and the fans are embracing it.
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Post by Hit Girl on Feb 2, 2012 3:23:43 GMT -5
Punk's references to Stephanie became lazy and tiresome. It would be even worse if Chyna references were brought into it. Plus, Chyna references are outdated and too smarkish.
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Post by rapidfire187 on Feb 2, 2012 15:06:20 GMT -5
Punk's references to Stephanie became lazy and tiresome. It would be even worse if Chyna references were brought into it. Plus, Chyna references are outdated and too smarkish. I don't see how they're any more outdated and smarky than the Stephanie stuff. It just seems like the sort of taboo topic that Punk could make a wise crack about and get some of that "oh shit he'll say anything" feeling back. Maybe I'm just thinking it would be more of an insult than it actually is.
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