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Post by wildojinx on Sept 2, 2011 8:34:59 GMT -5
Did you think he was a flop as a heel when he first came in in 1999? Ive been reading Jericho's second book and he's actually kind of hard on himself, even saying that his debut promo with the rock wasnt that great. And i dont remember him as a sunday night heat jobber around that time either.
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Post by salz4life on Sept 2, 2011 8:46:40 GMT -5
I LOVED his debut. I read his book too and remember him being extremely hard on himself in regards to his first few months or year with the company. While I agree it didn't go all that well, I still will NEVER forget that debut promo. Maybe my fond memories stem from the ENORMOUS pop he got when the 'Jericho' popped on the Titantron.... but I will never forget it, that's for sure.
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Post by Protest the Chris Hero on Sept 2, 2011 9:18:48 GMT -5
He stated in the past he had struggles adapting to the WWE style at first. Granted they did miss the boat on the original cocky heel Jericho but it's safe to say he made up for it over the years with one the greatest resumes in WWE history
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Post by probable on Sept 2, 2011 9:38:21 GMT -5
I thought he was cool as f*** in 1999. I found him extremely entertaining, and too thought he was harsh on himself in his second book. Besides, one of the greatest entrance themes of all time = win
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Post by cabbageboy on Sept 2, 2011 9:39:13 GMT -5
I actually agree with him. Quite honestly Jericho was eaten alive by The Rock in that promo and it really led to absolutely nothing. People forget about that.
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Post by Prince Of Things on Sept 2, 2011 9:54:53 GMT -5
I was a fan from the debut promo as it was epic. He didn't do a whole lot for the rest of the year but I don't think it wasn't the right time with the types of main eventers they had then.
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Post by probable on Sept 2, 2011 10:10:03 GMT -5
I actually agree with him. Quite honestly Jericho was eaten alive by The Rock in that promo and it really led to absolutely nothing. People forget about that. You understand Rock was designed to come out of that on top right? And Jericho was meant to drone on right? |
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Post by Perpetual Nirvana on Sept 2, 2011 10:24:43 GMT -5
Maybe he was hard on himself but he also brings up the good point that if he was doing something wrong then somebody should have told him. Instead he went on blissfully unaware until Vince hauled him into his office and tore into him. He also fell victim to that thing WWE has where you're supposed to follow certain lockerroom rules and guidelines but nobody tells you what these are.
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Post by Pushed to the Moon on Sept 2, 2011 10:26:12 GMT -5
He didn't say his promo wasn't great did he? I thought he said he just regretted pulling a stupid, goofy face instead of having a more angry reaction.
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Post by corndog on Sept 2, 2011 10:32:57 GMT -5
I didn't think it was bad at all, I loved it. He was still playing his WCW character and if they wanted to change it I am sure they had plenty of time to tell him what they wanted. The only reason he flopped as a heel is because people were starting to cheer that character and were happy to see him in the WWE.
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Post by Perpetual Nirvana on Sept 2, 2011 10:40:24 GMT -5
The one thing I can't get over is how scarily accurate Jericho's promo is if you aplly it to WWE today.
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Post by FUNK_US/BRODUS on Sept 2, 2011 10:51:53 GMT -5
I never thought about it up until he mentioned in his second book about how he stood there looking like a little kid that had taken his ball away after The Rock burned him.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2011 10:56:04 GMT -5
Loved his debut, but in retrospect now I understand why he was left of various PPVs and so forth. He did have trouble adapting to the WWE style, much like Sin Cara does now.
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Post by cabbageboy on Sept 2, 2011 11:49:55 GMT -5
Jericho spent most of his WCW run against cruisers, which isn't very similar to the WWF style. The problem with Jericho is that I recall hearing that Russo was a fan of his and Russo quit the company right after Jericho debuted (or at least within 2 months). He was also supposed to feud with Shamrock but Shamrock quit the company.
Basically they wanted to sign Jericho and had a great idea of how to debut him with the clock and all, but no idea what to do with him once he arrived. Jericho really didn't find himself in the WWF until he turned face and started insulting Steph, and even then he was a #2 babyface behind the Rock at best. It also didn't help Jericho that he spent his first few months feuding with the dubious likes of Road Dogg and X-Pac and really didn't WIN those feuds.
As far as his debut, isn't it a bit counterproductive to spend weeks hyping a debut and then the first night in have Rock trash him on the mic? And again...there was no point. It led to nothing, much like a lot of late Russo era WWF stuff.
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Post by Yami Daimao on Sept 2, 2011 12:39:31 GMT -5
The one thing I can't get over is how scarily accurate Jericho's promo is if you aplly it to WWE today. I BRING THAT UP ALL THE TIME. Every time there's a discussion about Jericho's debut and the promo, I can't help but mention how insanely accurate his details of the WWE that day applied to the product about 8 years later. Almost word for word. It IS scary, and pretty f***ing cool at the same time. I'm very glad I'm not the only one who caught that. Most wrestling fans I've talked to never realized that. |
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Post by joebob27 on Sept 2, 2011 15:19:39 GMT -5
He's too hard on himself. They had big plans for him and then did nothing to prepare him for it. Where's the logic in that? Especially in-ring. What you learn from that is that WWE/F has always been dysfunctional, it just wasn't as noticable when the product was better/more popular/both/either.
Then really, when you think about it, the character they didn't want him to play, really was the character he played when he turned during/after the Invasion.
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Post by Manute Bol on Sept 2, 2011 16:55:15 GMT -5
I remember watching his debut and being very excited to see him in the WWE. All that changed as soon as the segment was over. The Rock put him to shame and Jericho did not come out of that looking good at all. Plus he didn't even feud with The Rock afterwards!
Jericho became just another guy on the roster very quickly. His first match was against Road Dogg, ended in a disqualification and was rather forgettable. He ended the year doing the angle with Chyna, which was as bad as he describes it in his book. In fact, I was surprised he was so honest about how bad that was. The Intercontinental Championship was still a credible attraction at the time and I remember thinking how lame it was to have co-champions, one of which was a female.
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Post by juvijuiceisloose on Sept 2, 2011 17:57:15 GMT -5
I definitely think Chris wasn't used up to his potential when he 1st arrived in the WWE.
His debut made him instantly a top guy, but he wasn't booked that way.
Especially with corny stuff like the Chyna storyline.
But like he said in his new book, things would get a lot better once the cavalry arrived from WCW in the form of The Radicalz.
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Post by Hit Girl on Sept 2, 2011 17:59:38 GMT -5
His debut was one of the most memorable in WWF history IMO
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Post by legendkiller1985 on Sept 2, 2011 20:53:10 GMT -5
I definitely think Chris wasn't used up to his potential when he 1st arrived in the WWE. His debut made him instantly a top guy, but he wasn't booked that way. Especially with corny stuff like the Chyna storyline. But like he said in his new book, things would get a lot better once the cavalry arrived from WCW in the form of The Radicalz. Totally agree there. His first real major successful feuds were his feud with Angle and Benoit. After that, he found his niche with the WWF/E audience. |
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