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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Nov 15, 2011 23:35:44 GMT -5
These are common around award season. When a critically acclaimed TV show or Film ad is shown, and they're running down all of the awards it won/was nominated for, followed by an un-related clip of one of the actors "reacting" to all the praise. Don't know why, but they've always come across as super smug and pointless. I'd rather hear the awards they're nominated for, and then maybe a snippet of a scene showing why they're nominated. On that same accord, commercials that take a clip from the show/movie out of context and make it fit the mood of the commercial have always seem tacky to me.
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Post by Cela on Nov 15, 2011 23:54:57 GMT -5
These are common around award season. When a critically acclaimed TV show or Film ad is shown, and they're running down all of the awards it won/was nominated for, followed by an un-related clip of one of the actors "reacting" to all the praise. Don't know why, but they've always come across as super smug and pointless. I'd rather hear the awards they're nominated for, and then maybe a snippet of a scene showing why they're nominated. On that same accord, commercials that take a clip from the show/movie out of context and make it fit the mood of the commercial have always seem tacky to me. Like how Captain America made it seem like he enjoy casual sex?
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Post by Wolf Hawkfield no1 NZ poster on Nov 16, 2011 0:15:20 GMT -5
On television? Shoving gay characters down our throats. If you cant do anything with gay characters beyond "difficult coming out"or "flamboyant attention whore" then just don't even bother putting them on TV. I cant believe that in the 2000/2010s this is supposedly a more open minded era, yet it was in the 90s when Friends gave us the single best depiction of homosexuality on a sitcom ever in Carol and Susan. There have been too many cliched gay characters on TV, a lot of which suffer from the damage that Jack McFarlane left on Will & Grace. And of course in English soap operas, we've had a boatload of them with their "realistic" and utterly depressing coming out stories. I just feel that gay characters end up being destined to become PSAs or one dimensional stereotypes. ATTENTION TV NETWORKS: LGBT folk are regular people too. They do regular things. Run with that. The worst offender of this, by far, has to be Kurt from Glee. The episode where he repeatedly hits on Finn to the point where Finn loses his cool and calls him "faggy." While Finn is clearly in the wrong referring to Kurt like this, Kurt is clearly to blame due to him making multiple passes at someone despite it being very clear that he is not gay. Not to mention his whole bigoted rant on bisexuals was terrible as well. In fact there needs to be a future episode where he is called out on all his hypocrisy and s***ty treatment towards others as well.
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Post by Hit Girl on Nov 16, 2011 0:59:55 GMT -5
I am unimpressed with the current generation of movie "stars" such as Ryan Reynolds, Robert Pattinson, Seth Rogan, Carey Mulligan, Michelle Williams, Katherine Heigl, among others.
There are some that I do like, but I think compared to the previous generation (Tom Hanks, Tom Cruise, Will Smith...)..and the generation before that (Robert Duvall, Jack Nicholson, Clint Eastwood....) I think today's generation are either too "slackerish/emo" to carry films, or just outright bland.
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Post by agent817 on Nov 16, 2011 1:30:02 GMT -5
I usually don't have problems with these, unless a show is on syndication and another isn't. I'm talking about crossover two-parter episodes. Examples: -"Walker, Texas Ranger" and "Martial Law" -"The Agency" and "The District" -"George Lopez" and "Freddie"
The only one of those three that I have actually seen both episodes of was the George Lopez/Freddie crossover. Freddie was kind of an underrated show and I usually don't consider myself a big fan of Freddie Prinze Jr, but at least I got to see the full-on crossover. It's bad when one show is on syndication and the other isn't. I remember when I went through a major phase of Walker in the past, I was hesitant to watch the episode that was the second part of the Martial Law/Walker crossover. I wouldn't know what is going on for one thing, second, Martial Law isn't even on DVD nor is there any way to watch it as of right now, so I would be lost if I watched that episode.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2011 1:57:34 GMT -5
I think it would be cool to see more diversity in the casts of big films and have them not focus on race the whole time.
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Post by Toates Madhackrviper on Nov 16, 2011 2:34:49 GMT -5
On reality shows when the host starts saying something that was clearly dubbed over in post production, further explaining some challenge or twist. I mean... I get why they have to do it I guess but it still bothers me how blatant it ends up being.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Nov 16, 2011 2:47:27 GMT -5
I don't know how to explain that, just watch the last episode of Buffy season 4 and you'll know what I mean. "I wear the cheese, it does not wear me."
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Post by BHB on Nov 16, 2011 3:46:09 GMT -5
1- The "mythology", which basically equates to producers throwing as many characters, backstories, twists and illogical plot developments at the show and hoping that it convinces the audience that the show is deep and multi-layered This seems to be a trend in movies over recent years. Look at the POTC sequels and the Transformers movies.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2011 3:59:06 GMT -5
Movies that have 200-300million dollar budgets and choose to throw every frigging garbage piece of CGI effect on the planet into a film.
I understand somethings have to have CGI okay but when clearly you have a budget to use animatronics/puppets/practical effects etc USE'EM!!!.
Which is why I am glad with the news about them sticking with man in rubber suit Godzilla for the upcoming film, to reiterate it's better when there is actually something on screen.
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Post by Danimal on Nov 16, 2011 5:01:46 GMT -5
On television? Shoving gay characters down our throats. If you cant do anything with gay characters beyond "difficult coming out"or "flamboyant attention whore" then just don't even bother putting them on TV. I cant believe that in the 2000/2010s this is supposedly a more open minded era, yet it was in the 90s when Friends gave us the single best depiction of homosexuality on a sitcom ever in Carol and Susan. There have been too many cliched gay characters on TV, a lot of which suffer from the damage that Jack McFarlane left on Will & Grace. And of course in English soap operas, we've had a boatload of them with their "realistic" and utterly depressing coming out stories. I just feel that gay characters end up being destined to become PSAs or one dimensional stereotypes. ATTENTION TV NETWORKS: LGBT folk are regular people too. They do regular things. Run with that. The worst offender of this, by far, has to be Kurt from Glee. The episode where he repeatedly hits on Finn to the point where Finn loses his cool and calls him "faggy." While Finn is clearly in the wrong referring to Kurt like this, Kurt is clearly to blame due to him making multiple passes at someone despite it being very clear that he is not gay. I find Kurt more annoying than Jack. Jack was at-least fun. Ya he was rather stereotypical but he was also a sitcom staple, the shallow bimbo. Kurt is a whiny little girl. Speaking of the Kurt/Flynn scene, I thought it was very contrived. Why are they sharing the basement? I'm sure there is at-least a second bedroom.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Nov 16, 2011 5:14:20 GMT -5
Depressing episodes of lighthearted sitcoms. People watch said lighthearted sitcoms to get away from that kind of shit.
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Post by Bo Rida on Nov 16, 2011 6:18:22 GMT -5
1- The "mythology", which basically equates to producers throwing as many characters, backstories, twists and illogical plot developments at the show and hoping that it convinces the audience that the show is deep and multi-layered Even worse is when the characters sound like they're reading from a a wikipedia entry rather than it being a major event that shaped who they are. Firefly did that really well, the backstory was essentially the war that shaped the universe they're in.
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Post by cruiserfan on Nov 16, 2011 7:37:07 GMT -5
Spin City had an openly gay character and they wrote him very well. That's about the only one I can think of, however... 6 Feet Under did to, because they treated them like real people. Not the GAAAAY BESSSST FRIEEEEEEEEEND! "Sister, when you and your two best friends get together, you're like.... uhhh... who were those... you know, with the muskets... The Three Musketeers, was I that close?!"
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Post by G✇JI☈A on Nov 16, 2011 7:45:58 GMT -5
When supposedly smart people do something stupid.
Like in 'Limitless'. In that movie Bradley Cooper takes a pill that makes him super smart. In one scene he wants to make some money on the stock market but he needs some starter money so he can make some serious dough. So he reaches out to a mobster, the mobster reluctantly agrees and loans the money. So the Cooper character takes the money and makes the serious money he thought he would make..... and he does not immediately pay back the mobster.
The guy is supposed to be super smart, so he should know from watching gangster films nothing comes good when you hold out on the f***ing mob. So of course this bites him on the ass when the mobster comes looking for him. The stupid thing he could of easily paid him back plus interest like a couple days later and a whole lot of mess could have been avoided.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2011 8:02:12 GMT -5
Depressing episodes of lighthearted sitcoms. People watch said lighthearted sitcoms to get away from that kind of s***. Reminds me of how, while Futurama managed that pretty well across a few episodes, they every now and then attempt to invoke it and it just comes out badly. Like that Bender / Hermes one, which was really predictable in the first place and didn't resonant at all. Plus it had to have Hermes acting out of character to even work. Anyway, the whole, "Men are sports-obsessed morons who hate their in-laws, furniture given to them, and their daughters having any semblance of a social life, women are nagging shrews with no positive qualities who are still always in the right," thing should have died a long, long, long time ago. And yet, it marches right along.
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Post by angryfan on Nov 16, 2011 8:59:13 GMT -5
The walking human encyclopedia character. It's a complete hackjob of a way to pull together a 42 minute crime show. I'm looking at you Criminal Minds. NCIS is about the only show I've seen pull it off because it at least shows their characters trying to research problems on the net. But in Criminal minds, that douchebag just always magically knows everything about everything. As someone who is a knowledge nut, I can deal with a "walking encyclopedia" to some degree. As an NCIS devotee, yeah they have limited versions, though nobody crosses lines. Criminal minds, I guess Spencer would be the one you're referring to, though even he is somewhat compartmentalized when compared to, say, CSI. Plus, at least his character's backstory has the "photographic memory" thing going. As for my annoyance with TV, let me put it this way. I can't watch sitcoms anymore, at least not the "family setting" ones. I'm a single guy, but I'm neither a raging pervert or a clueless moron, but apparently that's all these shows have.
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Post by Some Guy on Nov 16, 2011 20:37:29 GMT -5
The worst offender of this, by far, has to be Kurt from Glee. The episode where he repeatedly hits on Finn to the point where Finn loses his cool and calls him "faggy." While Finn is clearly in the wrong referring to Kurt like this, Kurt is clearly to blame due to him making multiple passes at someone despite it being very clear that he is not gay. Spin City had an openly gay character and they wrote him very well. That's about the only one I can think of, however... Omar Little was gay, and pretty much the biggest badass in TV history.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2011 21:13:55 GMT -5
Preccocious kid characters who manage to dodge punishments by being cute. The only one that was ever cool was Tahj Mowry in Smart Guy, because he was an actual character rather than a device to give the protagonist some conflict.
You know, like the annoying little sisters in Kenan and Kel and Drake and Josh, and D.W. on Arthur.
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Post by paulbearer on Nov 16, 2011 21:23:48 GMT -5
Matt on Melrose Place wasn't flamboyant.......
The older character "playing younger in flashback" (looking at YOU , season 7 Melrose.....Amandas past etc)
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