klapaucius
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Post by klapaucius on Apr 1, 2012 11:40:53 GMT -5
no.
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DragonMasterP
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Post by DragonMasterP on Apr 1, 2012 12:02:06 GMT -5
I agree with the notion that it should never be broken.
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mrrotten
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Post by mrrotten on Apr 1, 2012 12:17:59 GMT -5
I saw leave it unbroken. Unless it's Kane doing the unbreaking!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2012 13:13:46 GMT -5
no
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Post by ariestheram on Apr 1, 2012 14:47:22 GMT -5
No.
I think they have built things to the point where anybody who is going to be in the ring with The Undertaker at WrestleMania doesn't need the rub that would come from breaking the streak. For me, Orton not breaking the streak during the height of his legend killer gimmick was when they passed the now-or-never point on breaking the streak.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Apr 1, 2012 14:49:48 GMT -5
The problem with that is after having them break something as big a deal as the streak, then if you don't build them up as the best ever/amazing/unstoppable/great/megastar after that then it completely buries the streak, the guy himself and also everyone who ever lost to Taker at Mania all in one go. Or hopefully, they can build multiple megastars in one go. If the guy loses a match, that guy gets the rub of having "Beaten The Guy Who Broke The Streak" then the next guy gets the rub of having "Beaten The Guy Who Beat The Guy Who Broke The Streak" and so on.
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Post by B'Cup x on Apr 1, 2012 14:57:36 GMT -5
how so? what if its used to sell merchandise, dvds etc? It's just as benificial to milk the hell out of an undefeated streak (regardless of its authenticity) as to give it to an rising star (who may waste it) x Here's the thing: You can put out maybe ONE streak DVD once he's retired, and maybe a "commemorative" t-shirt once he's gone, but after that, your money stream is done. It's a short term money maker. Building a NEW star off it is thinking long term, which is what pro wrestling should be about. would it make a new star though? the weight of the streak and controversy of breaking it actually has the potential to utterly destroy whoever is awarded the win. The crowd would turn against the wrestler worse than if Cena beat Punk at last years MITB. At least keeping it in tact means you can continue to sell a streak tshirt once hes retired, and whilst not a huge seller, I wouldnt be surprised if it sold consistantly for some years. A DVD/Documentry would also sell significantly more if it remains unbroken. A gimmick could also be given to a new guy the WWE wants to push of superassing the streak, whilst this is very unlikely to happen it would help build a new streak that would become very significant after 5 years or so and could be broken by someone even more new than them. To be honest, I'm not going to cry if it ends by anyone beit Triple H, some new guy or even an Uso, but I do think it will be a bit of a disapointment for it to end. Whilst I realise its not 'real' it could be used to do more than attempt to build a new star from having him be defeated x
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Post by Unaffiliated on Apr 1, 2012 15:02:42 GMT -5
I personally think the streak is overrated and don't see the big problem with it eventually being broken.
As to who it should be that breaks it, not someone totally new (even if the person is set for a push to megastardom) as that would be anti-climatic. Probably a main-eventer who still has a considerable number of years ahead. Right now probably Cena or Orton.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Apr 1, 2012 15:09:58 GMT -5
Here's the thing: You can put out maybe ONE streak DVD once he's retired, and maybe a "commemorative" t-shirt once he's gone, but after that, your money stream is done. It's a short term money maker. Building a NEW star off it is thinking long term, which is what pro wrestling should be about. would it make a new star though? the weight of the streak and controversy of breaking it actually has the potential to utterly destroy whoever is awarded the win. The crowd would turn against the wrestler worse than if Cena beat Punk at last years MITB. At least keeping it in tact means you can continue to sell a streak tshirt once hes retired, and whilst not a huge seller, I wouldnt be surprised if it sold consistantly for some years. A DVD/Documentry would also sell significantly more if it remains unbroken. A gimmick could also be given to a new guy the WWE wants to push of surpassing the streak, whilst this is very unlikely to happen it would help build a new streak that would become very significant after 5 years or so and could be broken by someone even more new than them. But once that happens, fans will end up debating whether that person's streak should be broken, and the cycle continues.
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Post by B'Cup x on Apr 1, 2012 15:14:49 GMT -5
which is a good thing as it will add to the buys of future wrestlemanias x
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2012 15:16:22 GMT -5
If it absolutely had to end, someone like Barrett, Ziggler, or Sheamus. I'd much prefer it not end, though.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Apr 1, 2012 15:19:00 GMT -5
which is a good thing as it will add to the buys of future wrestlemanias x But then again, you'd hit a roadblock where "this is the only legacy he has." If a young guy can't be allowed break Taker's streak, why build a new one with someone else? If someone is allowed to break the new guy's streak, it basically says that they set him up to fail.
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Post by Juice on Apr 1, 2012 15:23:28 GMT -5
Am I wrong thinking Brock Lesnar could have and may have been booked to do this?
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Post by B'Cup x on Apr 1, 2012 15:26:16 GMT -5
which is a good thing as it will add to the buys of future wrestlemanias x But then again, you'd hit a roadblock where "this is the only legacy he has." If a young guy can't be allowed break Taker's streak, why build a new one with someone else? If someone is allowed to break the new guy's streak, it basically says that they set him up to fail. you could have it end significantly earlier so its not as big a deal, but a guy who has been bigging up a five year or so streak at mania, is still a pretty big deal (and if hes a heel he can continue to big it up after defeated) basically you can do whatever everyone is suggesting happen to 'taker without the huge risk that the crowd will immediatly turn on whoever ends it (which as I said earlier, I completly see happening) x
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Post by Junkenstein on Apr 1, 2012 15:38:55 GMT -5
Am I wrong thinking Brock Lesnar could have and may have been booked to do this? Wouldn't surprise me at all if that was the plan once. After all, they were going to give it to Orton back at WM 21. I'm in the camp that if anyone should break it, it should be Kane.
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