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Post by DJ Maniak on Apr 8, 2012 16:30:41 GMT -5
Same as above. If you choose Other, explain in comments.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2012 16:52:34 GMT -5
Justin Credible. I knew ECW was in a world of hurt when they put the title on him.
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Post by BlackoutCreature on Apr 8, 2012 17:11:17 GMT -5
Raven is an odd choice to see up there. I always considered him one of the best ECW Champs of all time. He might not have been the greatest worker, but you knew when he came to the ring you were gonna be entertained in some form or fashion.
I voted for Mike Awesome and Justin Credible. Awesome could've been a great champion with some build, some decent challengers and some legitimate thought on where to go with his reign. Instead he was basically handed the title the second he got off the boat from Japan after not working for ECW in months and then started having PPV title defenses against guys like Kid Kash and Spike Dudley. It was painfully obvious Heyman had no real long-term plans for the guy other then "eventually drop the title to RVD", and i don't blame Awesome for a second for wanting to jump to WCW first chance he got (although the way he did it was completely unprofessional). His title reign sent ECW into a downward spiral that wound up destroying the company.
And then there's Justin Credible. There are some guys in the business that just don't get beyond jobber status for various unfair reasons. Politics, a look the promoter doesn't like, being too far ahead of his time, being too small, whatever. Justin Credible was not one of these people. He was a jobber in the WWF for one reason and one reason only - that's what he was best at. He was, at best, a good but unspectacular worker. He didn't have much charisma or size or mic skills or anything like that. His look was about as generic as you could get for the late 90's (he looked like the love-child of Steve Austin and X-Pac). Yes he had great chemistry with Lance Storm and the Impact Players were pretty hot at the time, but the New-Age Outlaws were the hottest tag team of the decade and nobody thought World Champion Billy Gunn was a good idea. He should've never been anywhere near the main event picture, let alone World Champ, and his reign was an embarressment.
Rhino is an honorable mention. He was greener then an FCW Diva when he was in ECW and got lost if a match went longer then 3 minutes and his year dominating the company as TV Champ was particularly horrible, but he was only World Champ for like 2 weeks before the company went under so it wasn't fair to include him.
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Post by lovingway on Apr 8, 2012 17:29:34 GMT -5
For me Rhino was it. Justin is number 2 but at least he had been around for a bit and they tamed his push at the start with his feud with Whipwreck. Rhino was pushed from the gate and still to this day I never understood what is so great about him
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Post by Rave on Apr 8, 2012 17:36:42 GMT -5
Credible. If WWF/WCW hadn't been poaching talent at a pretty good clip, I doubt Credible would've gotten anywhere above midcard, but when desperation sets in people tend to make some pretty crazy/stupid decisions. Credible was one guy neither company would even touch, for reasons blackoutcreature already mentioned, so he was considered a safe choice. Unfortunately, those same reasons contributed to a crap reign. Yes he had great chemistry with Lance Storm and the Impact Players were pretty hot at the time, but the New-Age Outlaws were the hottest tag team of the decade and nobody thought World Champion Billy Gunn was a good idea. I remember Kip was being considered for a main event push off the KotR win, at least 'til a certain infamous Rock promo rightfully killed the idea off. |
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Post by happhazzard on Apr 8, 2012 17:38:19 GMT -5
Johnny Hotbody IMO.
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Post by The Gambler Fan on Apr 8, 2012 17:50:23 GMT -5
Tommy Dreamer his 20 min title run was worthless.
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Post by mysterious on Apr 8, 2012 18:02:22 GMT -5
Mikey Whipwreck
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Post by ICBM on Apr 8, 2012 18:33:45 GMT -5
Justin had the ball when they needed a draw to become a viable, nationally recognized #3. He didn't draw. Rhino got heat and I believe, had ECW lived long enough for van dam to come back, their fued could have made them ECW level money(star afloat money). Mikey was a heart warmer and fit his gimick. Corino got the ball too late. Raven made that title worth something. Dreamer deserved to have his name tied to it. I have no idea why Mike Awesome is an option.
Justin is my choice because he was selected to draw for them as champion while they still had a shot. He didnt. His run cost them viewers who didn't come back and ultimately that loss furthered ECW's demise. If Russo and Nash killed wcw. Than Heyman and Justin Credible killed ECW.
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Post by Wolf Hawkfield no1 NZ poster on Apr 8, 2012 18:37:59 GMT -5
I voted for Justin Credible but we can all Mike Awesome for his shitty title reign.
But to be fair to Paul Heyman, The guy has admitted that knew he JC wasn't very good and that he would make a crap champion but was scared about another Mike Awesome situation happening so he needed some to put the belt on who both WCW/WWE had no interest in signing until someone better came along.
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Post by Mayonnaise on Apr 8, 2012 18:41:50 GMT -5
Credible. If WWF/WCW hadn't been poaching talent at a pretty good clip, I doubt Credible would've gotten anywhere above midcard, but when desperation sets in people tend to make some pretty crazy/stupid decisions. Credible was one guy neither company would even touch, for reasons blackoutcreature already mentioned, so he was considered a safe choice. Unfortunately, those same reasons contributed to a crap reign. I have always heard Heyman wanted Credible to be his next top star in the mold of Douglas but it was guys like Dreamer, Taz and Bubba who talked him out of it and got Paul to push it back so Credible could grow (with the hope of WWE taking him back before Paul could pull the trigger), so when there was nothing left Paul went ahead with it. As for me, I think it's Credible for all the reasons mentioned or Corino. Corino in this day and age could be a great champ. At that time he was just stuck out like a sore thumb as a 90lbs weakling. He seemed like Spike Dudley with 6 more inches. |
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Post by Evilution E5150 on Apr 8, 2012 18:55:09 GMT -5
Rhino, i could never see the big lug doing anything of any note anywhere
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Post by Citizen Snips on Apr 8, 2012 18:55:35 GMT -5
I voted Credible and Corino. When you're down to guys like that holding your World Title, the end is definitely nigh. Jerry Lynn would be in my mix as well. Much better worker than those other two, but more a TV Champ than World Champ.
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Post by BlackoutCreature on Apr 8, 2012 19:05:19 GMT -5
I voted Credible and Corino. When you're down to guys like that holding your World Title, the end is definitely nigh. Jerry Lynn would be in my mix as well. Much better worker than those other two, but more a TV Champ than World Champ. I actually felt Jerry Lynn could've been a pretty good World Champ if he had won the title during the early days of his feud with RVD. But as that feud dragged on and on with no end in sight and Lynn never getting one legitimate victory the entire time essentially killed any main event heat he actually built up earlier. By the time he did win the title he was nothing more then an afterthought and only given the belt because they were doing a PPV in his hometown. |
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Post by BrodietheSlayer on Apr 8, 2012 19:15:10 GMT -5
A lot of the early champions were pretty forgettable; stars though most of them were (Jimmy Snuka, Tito Santana), nobody would ever remember that these guys were also ECW World Champions (of course, this is before they went EXTREME).....and people like Johnny Hotbody. For the EXTREME era; I'd have to go either Justin Credible or Corino.....they were picking from scraps at the end of ECW....it was sad.
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Post by BlackoutCreature on Apr 8, 2012 19:17:57 GMT -5
A lot of the early champions were pretty forgettable; stars though most of them were (Jimmy Snuka, Tito Santana), nobody would ever remember that these guys were also ECW World Champions (of course, this is before they went EXTREME).....and people like Johnny Hotbody. Technically speaking, the ECW Championship wasn't considered a World Title at the time. That didn't happen until Shane Douglas threw down the NWA World Championship and declared the ECW Championship a World Title. |
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Post by Mac on Apr 8, 2012 19:21:55 GMT -5
Corino doing the old school southern blood gushing brawler gimmick was kinda cool and different and i think it worked. Still his championship reign was bad.... but I voted Credible. They seemed determined to get him over and even when it didnt work they kept plugging.
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Post by DragonMasterP on Apr 8, 2012 20:18:46 GMT -5
Credible just didn't have what made previous ECW champions so memorable.
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Post by DJ Maniak on Apr 8, 2012 20:29:11 GMT -5
I have no idea why Mike Awesome is an option. Someone overlooked his jump to WCW while STILL holding the ECW title I'm gonna guess. |
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Post by Celgress on Apr 8, 2012 20:30:37 GMT -5
Justin Credible, imho
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