saintpat
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Post by saintpat on Apr 16, 2012 21:09:47 GMT -5
Say Brock runs roughshod through the WWE in his return buildup -- beating down Cena, Sheamus, whoever.
What does it say for WWE, which has been on the losing end of its battle for PPV and entertainment dollars with MMA.
Brock was 5-3 in MMA. Yes, he won a title. Then he got knocked out twice -- both times in the first round.
Anyone who follows MMA knows Brock is damaged goods. He got beaten up twice so badly that he could no longer be competitive.
So he goes back to WWE and dominates. Isn't the logical conclusion that a bottom-feeding MMA fighter is better than the WWE roster? That the very best in WWE wouldn't be able to last one round in MMA?
Seems like a risky proposition to me for WWE.
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Post by Cronant on Apr 16, 2012 21:14:19 GMT -5
Well, the Rock is better than everyone else despite not wrestling in like 8 years. So Brock must be better too.
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Post by Sumbody Gon' Get Dey Kneelift on Apr 16, 2012 21:16:43 GMT -5
Well, the Rock is better than everyone else despite not wrestling in like 8 years. So Brock must be better too. ughhh....
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2012 21:16:51 GMT -5
Maybe Trent Baretta should take 8 years off.
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Post by rapidfire187 on Apr 16, 2012 22:18:05 GMT -5
So far, it's more like Cena can't beat anyone. Lesnar will meet resistance down the line, preferably from Punk or Orton.
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Post by BigWill on Apr 16, 2012 22:21:39 GMT -5
So far, it's more like Cena can't beat anyone. Lesnar will meet resistance down the line, preferably from Punk or Orton. Yeah, I wouldn't project Cena's failures on the rest of the roster. Cena's just in a bit of a slump right now with losing in big matches. And all these losses will result in a Cena character development... maybe?
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Post by Hanz Moleman on Apr 16, 2012 22:30:54 GMT -5
Say Brock runs roughshod through the WWE in his return buildup -- beating down Cena, Sheamus, whoever. What does it say for WWE, which has been on the losing end of its battle for PPV and entertainment dollars with MMA. Brock was 5-3 in MMA. Yes, he won a title. Then he got knocked out twice -- both times in the first round. Anyone who follows MMA knows Brock is damaged goods. He got beaten up twice so badly that he could no longer be competitive. So he goes back to WWE and dominates. Isn't the logical conclusion that a bottom-feeding MMA fighter is better than the WWE roster? That the very best in WWE wouldn't be able to last one round in MMA? Seems like a risky proposition to me for WWE. In Brock's defense, I wouldn't say he was beat so badly that he couldn't be competitive. The dude has a serious illness and had a ton of his intestines removed (something like that). To say he was beaten into leaving is inaccurate. Its more like he realized he wouldn't be able to be competitive with the damage the illness did to his body. But this is OT. Brock was a monster before he went to MMA. Its just Brock with a different twist.
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Post by blake6905 on Apr 16, 2012 22:33:59 GMT -5
as said above, Brock had like a mile of intestines removed. Not saying that would have changed the outcome, but he just couldnt go anymore and be safe about it.
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Post by Henry Mark on Apr 16, 2012 22:37:09 GMT -5
Say Brock runs roughshod through the WWE in his return buildup -- beating down Cena, Sheamus, whoever. What does it say for WWE, which has been on the losing end of its battle for PPV and entertainment dollars with MMA. Brock was 5-3 in MMA. Yes, he won a title. Then he got knocked out twice -- both times in the first round. Anyone who follows MMA knows Brock is damaged goods. He got beaten up twice so badly that he could no longer be competitive. So he goes back to WWE and dominates. Isn't the logical conclusion that a bottom-feeding MMA fighter is better than the WWE roster? That the very best in WWE wouldn't be able to last one round in MMA? Seems like a risky proposition to me for WWE. In Brock's defense, I wouldn't say he was beat so badly that he couldn't be competitive. The dude has a serious illness and had a ton of his intestines removed (something like that). To say he was beaten into leaving is inaccurate. Its more like he realized he wouldn't be able to be competitive with the damage the illness did to his body. But this is OT. Brock was a monster before he went to MMA. Its just Brock with a different twist. Good point. You could say a "bottom-feeding MMA" guy came in and did this, yet 4 years ago the exact opposite thing happened, a "fake sport" athlete went to UFC and become heavyweight champion. It clearly didn't hurt the UFC then, and WWE has never claimed to be legit sport, it's entertainment.
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Post by mysterydriver on Apr 16, 2012 22:54:11 GMT -5
It's odd with Brock.
His first MMA loss came off fluke-ish and he avenged it via face-ruining Frank Mir.
His second loss came in a title defense against the #1 contender Cain Velasquez who managed to counteract Brock's plan of takedown to GNP before dominating the stand-up.
His third loss came after his bout with diverticulitis against the Pride Heavyweight champion Alistair Overeem. A rather freaky choice for a guy who almost died. You'd think he'd get in a bout with a lower-level fighter instead of going against a man who, at the time, was the most clamored for MMA name (not named Fedor). Sidenote: Overeem has since been busted with more than double the allowed amount of T/E ratio which calls into question the majority of his most recent bouts.
Honestly, I see it rather easy to spin Brock to a non 'damaged goods' state.
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Post by Pooh Carlson on Apr 16, 2012 23:17:54 GMT -5
How many WWE fans pay attention to UFC? I don't, and I imagine a good majority don't, either.
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Post by Cela on Apr 16, 2012 23:54:29 GMT -5
Before he had the length of the great wall of china of intestine removed, he was a beast.
He needs to wrestle though... soon.
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Post by KofiMania on Apr 17, 2012 0:04:36 GMT -5
Two points:
1. Those who know Brock was a great UFC fighter and then lost a couple fights also know that pro wrestling is scripted so I can't imagine they will conclude that a bottom-feeding MMA fighter is "better" than WWE's best--WWE can script whoever they want to be "better" than someone else and fans know this.
2. Even in a kayfabe sense, this isn't JUST an MMA fighter entering WWE, it's a former DOMINANT WWE Superstar (or an "ass-kicker" as Brock said tonight) who ran roughshod over the WWE roster once before, and so why not again.
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