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Post by DragonMasterP on Apr 22, 2012 9:48:58 GMT -5
...The worst member of the Four Horsemen?
Did he not do anything of note when he was with them, or something?
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Post by bertheart90 on Apr 22, 2012 9:55:34 GMT -5
from what i remember it was expected tully or another big name was going to join and roma ended up with the gig
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Post by jason1980s on Apr 22, 2012 10:10:56 GMT -5
It was a bad idea to bring him in. He wasn't even known as a WCW guy, hadn't wrestled in a major promotion since WWF in late 1991 and even in WWF he had been a jobber to the stars type for years. Power and Glory get a little recognition but really they were a team that was two guys who had been losing as faces and put together as heels when they should have been given the "future endeavors" wish. I think Roma's arm was injured and that was the reason given for the short WM VII match but really, given Roma as a lower card guy and being against LOD who were top title contenders a few second match made most sense. Triple H even called Roma "the job guy from WWE" on the Horsemen DVD and that's exactly how he should be remembered. In 5 or 6 years he never showed anything that screamed he deserved a better spot and he certainly wasn't Horsemen material. You had Arn, Ole, Blanchard Windham, Flair, Benoit, Malenko and then you had...Roma. It just doesn't relate. Even with Luger he was a prescence with his look and was a top title contender. Sid is a major prescence even now being requested for indy shows when he has such a horrible no show record and I liked Mongo. Very few come close to the poor choice of Roma.
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Post by willywonka666 on Apr 22, 2012 11:42:21 GMT -5
If not Roma, than who would have been a better choice for the Horsemen in 93?
I know - ANYBODY, but let's be specific. I wasn't watching at the time, so I don't recall who was there and who wasn't
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Post by Squirrel Master on Apr 22, 2012 11:46:21 GMT -5
^^^Mr. Wonderful Paul Orndorff would have been a great Horseman.
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Post by DiBiase is Good on Apr 22, 2012 11:48:11 GMT -5
If not Roma, than who would have been a better choice for the Horsemen in 93? I know - ANYBODY, but let's be specific. I wasn't watching at the time, so I don't recall who was there and who wasn't Steve Austin could have worked. |
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Post by jason1980s on Apr 22, 2012 12:01:40 GMT -5
Orndorff would have been a good choice or Rick Rude though he might clash with Flair in terms of his pre-ring look. The Horsemen were good guys at the time and I don't see Orndorff or Rude as good guys. I think Dustin Rhodes would be a good choice. They could have played to the past with Dusty with Dusty giving Dustin his seal of approval as a member of the "hawsmen" despite his major feud from the 1980s. But even with Dustin and not Paul Roma it's not Four Horsemen. They needed someone else. Perhaps instead of Blondes versus Horsemen we could have Arn, Flair, Pillman and Austin. As Pillman had been a face for years basically Austin would be the only one going from heel to face. Or maybe have Blondes introduced as members of the Horsemen with them going against Arn and Flair for a feud. Anything's better than "the job guy." What makes Roma even worse is how he handled himself in the Superbrawl V Alex Wright match as if he were the best thing wrestling had ever seen. Sure Wright had yet to "pay his dues" but Roma thinks he should be the one to make him pay? Any other heel trying to get one over on Wright would certainly be better than a guy who's probably lost more matches than all the other wrestlers on the Superbrawl card combined.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Apr 22, 2012 12:24:03 GMT -5
If not Roma, than who would have been a better choice for the Horsemen in 93? I know - ANYBODY, but let's be specific. I wasn't watching at the time, so I don't recall who was there and who wasn't Steve Austin could have worked. That would be incredible, I can't imagine how good the matches would've been. |
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Post by "American Dragon" on Apr 22, 2012 23:42:49 GMT -5
I always thought Roma had potential...
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Post by lildude8218 on Apr 23, 2012 1:20:36 GMT -5
because his face
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Post by EvenBaldobombHasAJob on Apr 23, 2012 8:05:54 GMT -5
he went from being a total jobber in WWF to being presented as Ric Flair's heir apparent. he wasnt particularly charismatic . decent worker, but didn't live up to the way he was billed, at all. I'd still argue Mongo was worse though.
early 90s Steve Austin would've been PERFECT for the spot they gave Roma. man, WCW really didn't know what they had with him did they?
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Post by YiHammer on Apr 23, 2012 8:13:33 GMT -5
To be honest I think people still hold a grudge against Paul Roma for ruining Alex Wright's debut
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Post by "Playboy" Don Douglas on Apr 23, 2012 12:24:20 GMT -5
It didn't help that they continually billed the whole thing as the reunion of the original Horsemen. I watched the show recently (Slamboree '93) and literally right before they throw it to Flair on the set, the voice over guy says something to the affect of "And now, the reunion of the original Four Horsemen!" They obviously knew by that point that Tully wasn't coming back.
I'm not saying it wouldn't still have flopped, because it would have. But the fact that they built it, literally until the last second, as the reunion of the original group, only to have Flair say something like, "With that, comes some bad news. Tully Blanchard isn't here," then they bring out Paul Roma, certainly did no favor for anyone involved.
It made the Horsemen look bad because they were doing an angle where Barry Windham, the heel NWA champion, wanted nothing to do with the group and was actually feuding with Arn at this point. So there's one former member who wants nothing to do with it. Then Tully no shows them at the last minute, so now 2 former members have blown them off, and they respond by bringing out Paul Roma.
There was no way it was going to turn out okay.
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Apr 23, 2012 13:15:10 GMT -5
Imagine if WWE promoted an Evolution reunion for weeks, then at the last minute, they have to bring in a new member, and it's HHH, Orton, Flair, and Justin Gabriel.
This was worse.
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Post by Slingshot Suplay on Apr 23, 2012 14:33:13 GMT -5
I think it was a huge letdown to advertise the original horsemen and adding Roma just out of the blue. Everyone wanted and was expecting Tully. Roma was a tremendous athlete, was very strong and a good tag team wrestler, but you can't just plug someone in and make them a horseman and think it would be successful. If they would have built an angle up for him, then he might have been better accepted, but they just threw him out there cold. He just didn't have that horsemen swagger. He apparently didn't click with Flair and Arn off screen either, so there was no genuine chemistry.
In all honesty, the guy who i think could have made it as a horsemen if it wasn't for his outfit was Jeff Jarrett. They had a great buildup with him having to earn his spot in the horsemen by beating the horsemen and he also had a nice feud with the Giant while he was an associate Horseman. Just that outfit.... and I'm a Double J fan!
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Post by willywonka666 on Apr 23, 2012 17:52:29 GMT -5
How long did Roma stay? What might have been different if Tully had been there?
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Apr 23, 2012 17:56:47 GMT -5
To be honest I think people still hold a grudge against Paul Roma for ruining Alex Wright's debut It wasn't his debut, Alex Wright's initial feud was with some scrub called Jean Paul Levesque. Roma still deserves a whole lot of hatred for what he did to Wright though, it was thoroughly unprofessional. |
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Post by MolotovMocktail on Apr 23, 2012 18:04:17 GMT -5
It didn't help that they continually billed the whole thing as the reunion of the original Horsemen. I watched the show recently (Slamboree '93) and literally right before they throw it to Flair on the set, the voice over guy says something to the affect of "And now, the reunion of the original Four Horsemen!" They obviously knew by that point that Tully wasn't coming back. I'm not saying it wouldn't still have flopped, because it would have. But the fact that they built it, literally until the last second, as the reunion of the original group, only to have Flair say something like, "With that, comes some bad news. Tully Blanchard isn't here," then they bring out Paul Roma, certainly did no favor for anyone involved. It made the Horsemen look bad because they were doing an angle where Barry Windham, the heel NWA champion, wanted nothing to do with the group and was actually feuding with Arn at this point. So there's one former member who wants nothing to do with it. Then Tully no shows them at the last minute, so now 2 former members have blown them off, and they respond by bringing out Paul Roma. There was no way it was going to turn out okay. Also, Ole only made that one appearance on Flair For the Gold, and at his age, it wasn't like he was going to get in the ring on a regular basis anyway. |
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Post by Dang! on Apr 23, 2012 19:55:11 GMT -5
To be honest I think people still hold a grudge against Paul Roma for ruining Alex Wright's debut It wasn't his debut, Alex Wright's initial feud was with some scrub called Jean Paul Levesque. Roma still deserves a whole lot of hatred for what he did to Wright though, it was thoroughly unprofessional. How was it unprofessional? Alex Wright was built up as a newcomer, not as some Goldberg-esque dominant force. AFAIK he even denied the rumours that Roma was shooting against him. |
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Post by dabossftw on Apr 23, 2012 21:13:00 GMT -5
Curt Hennig would have been the best choice for the Horsemen at this point, would he have been signed. I think the deal fell through at the last moment.
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