Anyone else MORE excited for Cena/Lesnar than for

[rnrk supports BLM]

...Cena/Rock?

It helps that there's an actual angle here. Rock's return felt like it was being done solely for the nostalgic fun of seeing Rock wrestle again rather than because there was a good reason for him and Cena to be throwing down.

But with Brock... he's this horrible dick (at least in kayfabe) throwing his starpower around who deserves to be put in his place but who's also such an imposing monster that he quite conceivably could kick the ass of anyone else on the roster, up to and including the de facto top star of the modern era. That's compelling stuff IMO, and if they play their cards right and keep Lesnar looking unstoppable for months to come, I could see it keeping fans glued all summer.

[Zutroy]

Absolutely, Brock has me intrigued. They've used him very well so far. I'm expecting a squash tonight.

[Tiger Maskooo]

I am.

It's weird because in all honesty,I wasn't a fan of brock in the wwe. He occasionally would have a match with a good hand like an angle or a benoit that I'd find intriguing and I really enjoyed Paul Heyman as his manager but overall I found him boring.

However,on the way out of the wwe. I started getting into him. His feud with eddie guerrero to me is one of the most perfect illustrations of face and heel I've ever seen. I think the reason for this was that Brock went from playing this dominant monster type guy into being the guy he really is. An obnoxious cocky jerk.

But then he was gone. He went to japan. He had matches with almost the lack of enthusiasm he displayed towards goldberg.

Then he did something incredible. He became the best pro wrestling heel I think possibly of our generation but he did it in UFC. He was everything a heel should be. He was arrogant. He was obnoxious. He was a jerk. He kept winning even if you felt he didnt deserve it. He even had the perfect arc of a heel. He was a braggart who got his comeuppance from a shorter underdog in a humilating fashion.

When he re-signed with wwe and I saw him come back I was excited to see him again just because of how much of a fan i'd been of his stuff in UFC. However,I quickly felt bad because I thought it'd be back where it was years ago where he'd be the guy he was in 2002.

I've never been so happy to be wrong. I'm so glad that theyre having him be the guy he was in ufc. Theyre letting him be the cocky obnoxious bully he is. A primadonna.

The point i'm trying to get at is,yes i'm so much more excited for it. Brock has been so entertaining in this role that I can't help to be.

I don't expect a squash though. I think he's going to be alot more underhanded than that.

[HBL]

I swear I was going to open the same thread today.

I absolutely am. In fact,this match has a more ''big match'' feeling than Rock vs Cena. A match isn't big when you promote it with lame promos and saying ''Biggest match of all time'' for a year. I enjoyed Brock vs Cena's 3-4 week build up more than the entire year build up of Rock vs Cena,and that's saying something. Rock isn't who he used to be anymore,but Brock is still a badass who hungers for the current face of the company that he used to be on top back in the day.

["Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay]

I was more excited for the Rock match for the sheer spectacle.

But the booking is far superior for Brock. I love Brock, and I kind of want him to win. But I also wouldn't mind of Cena won on some level. I am just fascinated with where they're going with it, and Brock is actually getting booed and Cena is actually getting cheered, so they should ride that pony until it drops down dead.

[Magnum Opus]

I'm not, which is a pretty stunning feat of apathy considering that the only reason I was excited for Rock/Cena was that we'd finally move on.

I don't even know why I care so little. Some combination of hating the Johnny Ace angle and the vague sense that if the WWE was doing it's job it would be able to elevate a some one to feud with Cena instead of bringing in new people directly to the top card.

Also Brock happened while I was taking a break so I don't have any memories of him outside of UFC.

[Deleted]

I at least marginally cared about Rock / Cena, but this... Yeah, this whole thing I've just found boring, which is a shame since a Cena / Lesnar rematch is something I've wanted for years. I'm already pretty much completely bored with Lesnar though and the novelty of him being back has worn off in record time for me.

Plus at least as the match approached they started making Cena / Rock less predictable. This one can't really go anywhere but Lesnar murdering Cena and him having a crisis of faith.

[mainsupreme]

If Cena/Rock was a the main event during WM 27, it would have been Cena/Rock.

Now it's Lesnar/Cena

[Deleted]

With Rock/Cena, it just seemed like they were feuding over nothing. Rock's original point about Cena was that he didn't like his colourful t-shirts. That, frankly, isn't worth a year's build-up.

They've got to the point a lot more quickly with this feud, and I'm so glad they didn't opt to have the match at Wrestlemania 29. When Rock returned I knew that he'd be gone straight after WM27 to do movies. Now we know that Brock is contracted for a few matches, it gives you the sense of a massive sea change on the cards in the WWE. And while I didn't care for either Cena or Rock in the last feud, I'm really rooting for Cena here, because Lesnar is playing that bastard heel character he had in late 2003/early 2004.

I know some people wouldn't be happy with Brock marching back in and getting the WWE title handed to him, but think how big it would be for him to put somebody over. While The Rock came back to have a dream match with Cena, Lesnar's return could elevate somebody to the next level.

[The Ichi]

Apr 29, 2012 6:25:03 GMT -5 HBL said:

I swear I was going to open the same thread today.

I absolutely am. In fact,this match has a more ''big match'' feeling than Rock vs Cena. A match isn't big when you promote it with lame promos and saying ''Biggest match of all time'' for a year. I enjoyed Brock vs Cena's 3-4 week build up more than the entire year build up of Rock vs Cena,and that's saying something. Rock isn't who he used to be anymore,but Brock is still a badass who hungers for the current face of the company that he used to be on top back in the day.

This last sentence confuses me somewhat. Rock is still in tremendous shape and his performances at SS and Mania both showed he hasn't lost a step (he even did new moves!). Brock, whilst still scary looking, looks...kind of past it.

And Brocks character is that he doesn't give a damn about wrestling, and is here for the money. Rock still showed that he still had a love for wrestling, despite the many efforts of naysayers trying to say otherwise.

[trollrogue]

This kinda isn't a fair comparison. We've already seen Cena/Rock-- and yeah we've already seen Cena/Brock as well back in the day, but not when Cena's "The Man" and Brock's newly rehired and enigmatic as far as 'can he still hang in the ring' unknown factor.

Finally, it's the day of their PPV match, so hype for Cena/Brock is at an all-time high. It would be better to ask a 'which match was better' poll questions post-Extreme Rules.

[The Doctor]

Not really. If only because I feel like the result of the Extreme Rules match is lose/lose in the sense that there is only one ending people seem willing to accept and that would make any sense going forward. Which sort of takes a lot of the excitement out of it. In other words, I want Cena to win but I know that if he does the internet might well explode and become unbearable.

And I am a fan of Cena so the simple promise of seeing him destroyed isn't a massive selling point to me either.

That said, I am looking forward to it. Just not hugely or nearly as much as The Rock match. And I always have a little bit of faith that WWE will pull something none of us saw coming.

The only other way I see it all happening is perhaps Cena getting the win. In order to ignite Brock Lesnar to really go on a rampage. Thus far his character has been about being 'above' WWE. Could be that one big loss is what he needs to REALLY piss him off and get him thinking about more than contracts and money. Perhaps the real 'carnage' will start after Cena breaks Lesnar of the apathy he has shown. Would be a nice twist on the 'Cena needs to focus' angle they are going with.

[wrestling4ever]

WWE butchered the Cena/Rock storyline big time IMO. All the things Cena was saying about Rock would have been better suited towards Lesnar. As he is a heel and doesn't care, he actually embraces that stuff about not caring, only doing it for money etc.. With Rock, it was out of place. So as a face, he was trying to defend himself. If he was Hollywood Rock, then it would have been pretty damn amazing. I would have much preferred WWE do something different for Rock & Cena. I liked the whole Rock needs to beat Cena to solidify himself as the best thing. As he beat Austin & Hogan etc. As well as Cena needing to beat Rock because everything was on the line etc. Its a shame that WWE spent most of the year and build with fruity pebbles, Twitter, silly jokes, Im here all the time hes not, please love me, crap. And then at the last minute started to bring out those arguments. Then again, a year worth build is not easy to pull off without being repetitive.

With Cena/Lesnar its direct and to the point. Intense and physical. And the storyline fits better. It helps that there is only 3-4 weeks of hype too.

Im equally excited for both of these bouts though and I agree that maybe we should wait until the feud is over to pass judgement.

[zeez]

I'm more curious to see how Cena will handle losing to Brock than losing to Rock so I'd say yes.

[Juice]

I was more excited this time around until I realized much like the Rock v Cena I will be able tow watch the whole damn ppv at work until the main event when I get off work and am not willing to stick around for one match after 13 shift.

[HBL]

Apr 29, 2012 11:12:13 GMT -5 The Ichi said:

Apr 29, 2012 6:25:03 GMT -5 HBL said:

I swear I was going to open the same thread today.

I absolutely am. In fact,this match has a more ''big match'' feeling than Rock vs Cena. A match isn't big when you promote it with lame promos and saying ''Biggest match of all time'' for a year. I enjoyed Brock vs Cena's 3-4 week build up more than the entire year build up of Rock vs Cena,and that's saying something. Rock isn't who he used to be anymore,but Brock is still a badass who hungers for the current face of the company that he used to be on top back in the day.

This last sentence confuses me somewhat. Rock is still in tremendous shape and his performances at SS and Mania both showed he hasn't lost a step (he even did new moves!). Brock, whilst still scary looking, looks...kind of past it.

And Brocks character is that he doesn't give a damn about wrestling, and is here for the money. Rock still showed that he still had a love for wrestling, despite the many efforts of naysayers trying to say otherwise.

I wasn't talking about his shape though. I'm saying that his wrestler persona is gone,he just isn't like the old times anymore. Even his promos were starting to get awful. Also,let's be honest,Rock's performance at Mania wasn't as good as his performance at Survivor Series.

About the character stuff,that's why this storyline is more accurate. Brock was straight to the line and had no problem in admitting it,he's supposed to come off like a egoistical prick. And Rock's ''love for wrestling'' as of late is pretty discussable on my part.

[4real]

I am just to see whether Brock still has it or not. Survivor Series last year showed The Rock was ready for Wrestlemania and hadn't lost a step. Be interesting to see how Lesnar does tonight.

[wrestling4ever]

Apr 29, 2012 14:34:12 GMT -5 HBL said:

Apr 29, 2012 11:12:13 GMT -5 The Ichi said:

This last sentence confuses me somewhat. Rock is still in tremendous shape and his performances at SS and Mania both showed he hasn't lost a step (he even did new moves!). Brock, whilst still scary looking, looks...kind of past it.

And Brocks character is that he doesn't give a damn about wrestling, and is here for the money. Rock still showed that he still had a love for wrestling, despite the many efforts of naysayers trying to say otherwise.

I wasn't talking about his shape though. I'm saying that his wrestler persona is gone,he just isn't like the old times anymore. Even his promos were starting to get awful. Also,let's be honest,Rock's performance at Mania wasn't as good as his performance at Survivor Series.

About the character stuff,that's why this storyline is more accurate. Brock was straight to the line and had no problem in admitting it,he's supposed to come off like a egoistical prick. And Rock's ''love for wrestling'' as of late is pretty discussable on my part.

Its not the old times though. I thought he was fine. Part of the problem is people keep expecting to see the 2001 Rock. Its not 2001 anymore. Hes a more humanized version these days and it fits with the times. I dont think there is more to discuss about Rock's love for wrestling. Dude didn't have to go back at all and the fact that he is once again trying to squeeze in WWE dates on top of his busy film schedule says a lot. He already has a torn Achilles tendon and one mishap to aggravate that would have put him out for good, putting his current job in Hollywood in jeopardy. Something that Triple H said in an interview a few weeks back.

The stuff fits Brock more because its true. With Rock hes doing so much for the love of it and genuinely wanted to go back and help Vince, the WWE company, the fans, and even John. Who people forget is a big fan and has wanted this match with Rock for years.

[xCompackx]

Well it helps that with Brock, they've actually been physical. You can't just have guys talk for a year and expect interest to be there.

[revolver86]

Cena/Rock was just an attraction. Cena/Brock actually feels like the fate of WWE is at stake.