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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2011 8:50:19 GMT -5
I'm aware a fair few guys on here know of 1PW getting ever worse in booking wrestlers but now it's been confirmed their "supershow" linked to Shawn Michael's attendance has been cancelled (Danny Rodd won't say this but the Doncaster Dome has informed a ton of us via email/phone that it's been pulled and has been issuing refunds if tickets were purchased through them).
If anyone had any interest in seeing him, do NOT buy tickets from the 1PW site, they are no longer available. HBK's representatives have told me via email he is no longer attending due to the failure of 1PW to maintain contractual obligations. Which will mean again they haven't paid the up front fee.
Anyone else pissed off at this? Tolerated 1PW's bulls*** for far too long and supported them with DVD purchases/live attendances and now this. Danny Rodd not issuing back refunds if you paid via Paypal is the last kicker of it. A little bit livid.
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Post by Splinter on Jul 15, 2011 9:02:42 GMT -5
I'm aware a fair few guys on here know of 1PW getting ever worse in booking wrestlers but now it's been confirmed their "supershow" linked to Shawn Michael's attendance has been cancelled (Danny Rodd won't say this but the Doncaster Dome has informed a ton of us via email/phone that it's been pulled and has been issuing refunds if tickets were purchased through them). If anyone had any interest in seeing him, do NOT buy tickets from the 1PW site, they are no longer available. HBK's representatives have told me via email he is no longer attending due to the failure of 1PW to maintain contractual obligations. Which will mean again they haven't paid the up front fee. Anyone else pissed off at this? Tolerated 1PW's bulls*** for far too long and supported them with DVD purchases/live attendances and now this. Danny Rodd not issuing back refunds if you paid via Paypal is the last kicker of it. A little bit livid. Did anyone expect 1PW to actually deliver? The company has gone in and out of business almost as many times as IWA Mid-South, screwed around wrestlers with their bookings such as Chris Hamrick, and nearly destroyed any relations UK promoters may have wished to pursue with Japan when they screwed around the booking for the Great Muta and subsequently pulled another Ian Rotten and went out of business. Real Quality Wrestling pulled off an amazing job, not only fulfilling the booking and bringing Muta over here and keeping relations with Japan sweet, but also accepted the tickets for the 1PW event since they weren't giving refunds. 1PW epitomizes what's wrong with the wrestling industry in the UK today.
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Post by Steveweiser on Jul 15, 2011 9:05:59 GMT -5
What does this mean for the Pro Wrestling EVE vs. Ice Ribbon shows that were meant to run in conjunction? Are they still going ahead?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2011 9:09:56 GMT -5
Yeah, I share the same opinion (me and Mr Snrub on here held back from buying even the cheapest tickets as we are so flaming aware of the idiocy) just wanted to spread the word for people to demand their money back if they bought direct from 1PW. Sickening.
RQW doing that was awesome as well, NBW Southside are trying a similar thing apparently - "NBW Southside are offering anyone waiting or wanting refunds from 1PW ...25% off the next Southside show in Sept and 50% off our anniversary show in Nov.
Dont let your experience with this company put you off enjoying what else great things the British Wrestling Scene has to offer." I hope this doesn't count as spam but their facebook address is facebook/nbwsouthside
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2011 9:11:14 GMT -5
What does this mean for the Pro Wrestling EVE vs. Ice Ribbon shows that were meant to run in conjunction? Are they still going ahead? Erm, no idea, given the CZW/1PW show has changed (CZW is apparently working with someone else now) I bet not.
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Post by Baixo Astral on Jul 15, 2011 10:09:51 GMT -5
Thank you Stephen Dan.
Honestly, it's like we're in a parallel world where 1PW is a guarantee of something other than massive malpractice and bad management.
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Post by Splinter on Jul 15, 2011 10:21:06 GMT -5
1PW has been promising a statement regarding Shawn Michaels status for a week now, and have only 5 hours ago have said they refuse to comment about the current rumors.
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Post by eJm on Jul 15, 2011 17:00:21 GMT -5
So you mean to tell me an unreliable wrestling company screwed up?
Wow...I'm shocked.
Seriously, 1PW is one of those promotions that could have been great but regually makes Impact Wrestling's mismanagements look like the New Deal.
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Post by Splinter on Jul 15, 2011 17:29:31 GMT -5
So you mean to tell me an unreliable wrestling company screwed up? Wow...I'm shocked. Seriously, 1PW is one of those promotions that could have been great but regually makes Impact Wrestling's mismanagements look like the New Deal. I don't think it's so much that they screwed up. God knows I've expected it ever since they re-opened after the Muta scandal. What is a serious issue though is that the promoter is refusing to acknowledge that Shawn isn't coming anymore, even after Shawn Michael's representatives have made that clear, and the venue has started issuing refunds. (7 friends from a local wrestling school who were making the trip have now confirmed this to me) Even worse, the promoter is still attempting to sell tickets via their website (I checked there 10 minutes ago) and is refusing to refund anyone that paid via the 1PW website. This is almost like Ian Rotten has branched out to the UK. While granted this one won't harm relations with international promotions as much as the Muta booking nearly did, it's still another black eye on the UK indy scene. And unfortunately there's no fairly big promtion like RQW that is able and/or willing to take the hit financially to bring HBK over and give the fans 1PW screws, the chance to see what they paid for. For all the crap Scottish Wrestling Entertainment gets, I think they deserve credit for at least delivering every year when they promise Ted DiBiase on their annual supercard. If a smaller organisation can deliver like that, then why does 1PW always smurf it up so badly?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2011 5:15:05 GMT -5
The above post details why I'm so dissapointed, I tried to sing the company's praises when they pulled off a great event (seeing McGuiness vs Lionheart in Liverpool was great) but their constant mistakes on this scale whilst the promoter refuses to give out refunds? It's disgraceful, 1PW have refunded me before for DVDs but hearing how people aren't being refunded if they purchased items through the frankly awful 1PW website makes me glad I held back on purchasing anything the last few months.
Having someone like HBK promise to come over and then finding out he won't from his management is absolutely gutting in a different way, as insanely horrid as their treatment of Muta was, this to me means more as it's HBK! I almost put aside my hatred for backstage badly run bulls*** from this company because of him...and then finding this out. Morons.
Loser, liar, fake, phonies, no one cares. Guh.
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Post by cruiserfan on Jul 16, 2011 8:34:11 GMT -5
What happened with Muta?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2011 9:09:36 GMT -5
cruiserfan, here's an old PWI article on it www.pwinsider.com/ViewArticle.php?id=22220&p=1Basically 1PW folded without warning (which happens bi-yearly...) and they didn't actually inform most wrestlers of the occurence up until the announcement was made (not long before the show at all) when the representatives/wrestlers/all related parties found out. It could have plausibly destroyed British wrestling's links to Japan for shows and events which would have been awful for this country's already weak modern indie wrestling heritage. Thankfully RQW saved the day there for fans and Muta. Here though? Eh...I legitimately do not see anyone able to work this out with Shawn's people (the cost alone, not to mention I guess they wouldn't like wasting time when they've already been burnt by a British promotion), especially when the venue is no longer booked for his attendance.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2011 9:17:30 GMT -5
If anyone isn't aware too they have a history of doing this to lots of sort of well known wrestlers - lately Kipp James/Billy Gunn, last year Val Venis refused to fly over after not having a promised up front payment made, and I know others but those two stand out.
I mean they didn't bother me at all as they're midcarders and the show wasn't built around them but this supershow weekend crap was built around one of the best wrestlers of all time. Their reputation through two different owners over the last few years has remained consistent, even when they run great shows at times they are far worse than Paul Heyman in paying wrestlers and working with what they agreed to in contracts.
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Post by Objection! on Jul 17, 2011 11:23:11 GMT -5
No refunds on Paypal? Well I'm not getting my money back. Nor for my flights...
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Post by Objection! on Jul 17, 2011 18:11:53 GMT -5
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Post by Splinter on Jul 18, 2011 1:28:08 GMT -5
So Danny Rodd is having to try and do a new deal with HBK because he couldn't stick to the old one, and even though Doncaster Dome have already issued refunds for this show, "IT'S STILL GOING AHEAD!" Somehow I doubt Mr Rodd is telling the truth here.
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Post by eJm on Jul 18, 2011 6:08:29 GMT -5
So you mean to tell me an unreliable wrestling company screwed up? Wow...I'm shocked. Seriously, 1PW is one of those promotions that could have been great but regually makes Impact Wrestling's mismanagements look like the New Deal. I don't think it's so much that they screwed up. God knows I've expected it ever since they re-opened after the Muta scandal. What is a serious issue though is that the promoter is refusing to acknowledge that Shawn isn't coming anymore, even after Shawn Michael's representatives have made that clear, and the venue has started issuing refunds. (7 friends from a local wrestling school who were making the trip have now confirmed this to me) Even worse, the promoter is still attempting to sell tickets via their website (I checked there 10 minutes ago) and is refusing to refund anyone that paid via the 1PW website. This is almost like Ian Rotten has branched out to the UK. While granted this one won't harm relations with international promotions as much as the Muta booking nearly did, it's still another black eye on the UK indy scene. And unfortunately there's no fairly big promtion like RQW that is able and/or willing to take the hit financially to bring HBK over and give the fans 1PW screws, the chance to see what they paid for. For all the crap Scottish Wrestling Entertainment gets, I think they deserve credit for at least delivering every year when they promise Ted DiBiase on their annual supercard. If a smaller organisation can deliver like that, then why does 1PW always smurf it up so badly? Yeah, that's pretty much 1PW for the past 2-3 years. Look up the recent debacle about their May shows where guys like Waltman and Nash were saying they were coming down, but noone at 1PW was saying anything except 'We have no idea what they mean, we're in tight negociations' etc.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2011 8:20:49 GMT -5
Okay, sort of update, but Rodd saying he has a new contract with HBK (their first contract fell apart, WHAT A SHOCK!) and has rebooked the Dome for the supershow on the same dates.
I called up the Doncaster Dome and they are not aware of him re-calling or rebooking via any means for the old dates, it's still cancelled from their poitn of view.
Hahahahaha. What a lying scumbag.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2011 8:23:38 GMT -5
No refunds on Paypal? Well I'm not getting my money back. Nor for my flights... Keep pressing it on paypal for a refund. At some stage everyone who paid via paypal should form a group on Facebook to organise a complaint to trading standards over it. I didn't get money back for a DVD from a year and a half back, not too arsed about that but for people paying £100+ urgh, I feel awful for you guys, seriously not on.
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Post by ringbelles on Aug 11, 2011 10:37:51 GMT -5
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