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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2011 7:53:56 GMT -5
. . . was just to try and get HHH over? Because if I didn't know better we just had an angle where HHH was literally the only guy we were supposed to cheer for against the entire locker room, refs, and announcers.
We just had a segment where the top superstars just agreed with HHH and stroked his ego.
Then it all ended with HHH inserting himself into the main event scene yet again.
It just seemed like the whole COO angle was simply to put HHH on top of the dog pile again which begs the question..
If HHH is such a big deal, why does he need all this ego-stroking and spotlight hogging?
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Post by Johnny B. Decent on Oct 11, 2011 9:44:27 GMT -5
What a suprise.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Oct 11, 2011 9:47:30 GMT -5
If HHH is such a big deal, why does he need all this ego-stroking and spotlight hogging? Daddy issues. ;D |
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Post by MGH on Oct 11, 2011 9:47:40 GMT -5
I was particularly fond of, "I've wrestled most of those guys, and the broomstick would give me a better match". Much in the same vein as last March when we got, "UNDERTAKER, YOU'RE THE ONLY MAN IN THIS COMPANY WHO CAN GIVE ME A FIGHT".
Please go away.
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Post by Protest the Chris Hero on Oct 11, 2011 9:57:16 GMT -5
He's awful, always has been, always will be. He doesn't understand that he can't be THE guy in this storyline, in fact he needs to be taken out by the heels for this to even work now. We shall see if this idiot can finally do that right thing.
I like how he's syphoning off Punk's heat now.
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Post by Zaq "That Guy" Buzzkill on Oct 11, 2011 9:58:33 GMT -5
I love waking up in the mourning and smelling the HHHate.
On a related note, I heard that Trips pedigreed everybody on the roster in the parking lot last night and that's what made them come back in.
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Post by rapidfire187 on Oct 11, 2011 9:59:47 GMT -5
He's awful, always has been, always will be. How is he awful? He's good on the mic and anywhere from good to great in the ring? Yes, the fact that he's booked to look like God is quite annoying but it doesn't mean he's terrible. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2011 10:04:14 GMT -5
He's awful, always has been, always will be. How is he awful? He's good on the mic and anywhere from good to great in the ring? Yes, the fact that he's booked to look like God is quite annoying but it doesn't mean he's terrible. And that's the thing for me. I don't even hate HHH - I thought he did a decent job as the RAW GM until the entire storyline became about him being better than everyone else in the entire WWE Universe (except the fans of course!) When he was just booking matches and basically telling every one, "Hey tough man, you've got to wrestle tonight - I don't care who you are." Then he sets up matches for himself at PPVs and the whole thing becomes a "Gee golly WWE universe I tried to put the best show on for you guys, cause i love ya and all, but since these guys don't wanna wrestle I guess I"LL JUST BE THE STAR OF THE SHOW!" show. The way he gets booked into these angles is just not interesting at all. |
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Oct 11, 2011 11:27:48 GMT -5
I'm a fan of the guy, but twenty minutes into last night, I went back to MNF and couldn't look back.
That shit was brutal. From what I'm reading, it got no better.
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Post by The Ichi on Oct 11, 2011 11:36:10 GMT -5
I love waking up in the mourning and smelling the HHHate. On a related note, I heard that Trips pedigreed everybody on the roster in the parking lot last night and that's what made them come back in. And I love logging on here and not seeing a single solitary pro-HHH argument minus a couple that isn't lazy "OMGHHHATE" garbage. At this rate I'm wondering if it's a genuine need to defend someone you like or a need to go against the grain. Because if it's the former you people are really doing a poor job of trying to sway our opinions to your side. |
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Post by Fiddleford H. McGucket on Oct 11, 2011 11:58:29 GMT -5
Here's my take: I don't hate Trips. I do however hate the fact that no matter what happens on screen, if he's involved HE's front and center at worst and Poochie-like at best. {Spoiler}Basically He's always on screen, and when he's not, people audibly wonder "Where's Trips?". I'm in the minority that DOESN'T see the end of RAW as burial of Punk, but an admission that maybe....just maybe this "Skinny Fatass Waffle House Cook" might be a decent draw. I do agree with Triple H "Syphoning" off of Punk's heat. Punk doesn't NEED Trips's "Atta-Boy" to be the big star that WWE wants. The issue is this though, Trips THINKS he does. I honestly believe that Triple H is as bad as Vince is as far as Yes men are concerned, He believes his own hype. He thinks he's helping Punk. I'd bet good money that in his mind he's thinking....."Gee Whiz (Yes In my version HHH talks like a stereotypical 50's Preteen) That Punk fella needs a push......maybe If I'm seen with him people will like him more!" |
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Post by Joe Galt on Oct 11, 2011 12:07:09 GMT -5
Who else thinks that this is possibly going to lead to a HHH vs. Johnny Ace match at Wrestlemania next year? After seeing some of Ace`s matches from All Japan, I am sort of curious about seeing this. He`s not that bad in the ring, actually.
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Post by rnrk supports BLM on Oct 11, 2011 12:46:31 GMT -5
Here's my take: I don't hate Trips. I do however hate the fact that no matter what happens on screen, if he's involved HE's front and center at worst and Poochie-like at best. {Spoiler}Basically He's always on screen, and when he's not, people audibly wonder "Where's Trips?". I'm in the minority that DOESN'T see the end of RAW as burial of Punk, but an admission that maybe....just maybe this "Skinny Fatass Waffle House Cook" might be a decent draw. I do agree with Triple H "Syphoning" off of Punk's heat. Punk doesn't NEED Trips's "Atta-Boy" to be the big star that WWE wants. The issue is this though, Trips THINKS he does. I honestly believe that Triple H is as bad as Vince is as far as Yes men are concerned, He believes his own hype. He thinks he's helping Punk. I'd bet good money that in his mind he's thinking....."Gee Whiz (Yes In my version HHH talks like a stereotypical 50's Preteen) That Punk fella needs a push......maybe If I'm seen with him people will like him more!" I pretty much agree with all of this. The current batch of arguments across the board seem to be lumping together disliking Triple H with thinking Punk is being buried and should be a bigger star right now, while I don't think these two positions necessarily go hand-in-hand. Punk is fine in the spot he's in right now, as the secondary face in the main event angle. He's playing a decidedly supporting role to Triple H, but then HBK, Jeff Hardy, and John Cena have all taken a back seat to THE GOD THAT IS TRIPLE H regularly, and while it made all of them look slightly worse than they would've without Hunter in the picture, it didn't hurt their careers in the long run. Punk's fared better over the last month than poor Cena, whose feud over the WWE Championship has dwindled into an afterthought behind the corporate power struggle angle. Punk wasn't going to start a new boom period, that's absurd hyperbole. It's a long shot to even say Punk has what it takes to become as big a star as Cena, let alone surpass him, and it's going to take more than a couple months of momentun from a good angle to see if he can sustain his heat. At the moment, he seems set to be settling at a role closer to Edge's spot from right before his retirement, as one of the top main event babyfaces, but still a notch below being one of THE big headlining superstars. And that's a spot that Punk, or any wrestler, should be proud to have worked hard enough to snag for himself. That said, none of that changes that Triple H is a pompous, self-indulgent windbag with a pathological need to always be the focus of attention, and it's all the more blatant now that he's too old and beaten up to wrestle regularly. |
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Post by The Papers on Oct 11, 2011 12:56:54 GMT -5
I don't know how many more cringe worthy "I do it for you, WWE Universe!" promos I can take.
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Post by Protest the Chris Hero on Oct 11, 2011 13:54:03 GMT -5
He's awful, always has been, always will be. How is he awful? He's good on the mic and anywhere from good to great in the ring? Yes, the fact that he's booked to look like God is quite annoying but it doesn't mean he's terrible. I've personally never bought into him, we are talking back in 1994 when he was in WCW. He never appealed to me both on screen or the type of person he is 'behind the scenes'....it's just too much HHH, like for it's too much Cena, or Orton, or Punk...I just never got into him. |
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Post by jadison on Oct 11, 2011 14:38:42 GMT -5
Who else thinks that this is possibly going to lead to a HHH vs. Johnny Ace match at Wrestlemania next year? After seeing some of Ace`s matches from All Japan, I am sort of curious about seeing this. He`s not that bad in the ring, actually. If he beat Triple H with an RKO/Diamond Cutter (a move that Mr. Aces himself innovated) at Wrestlemania he'd be the biggest babyface in the history of the internet. |
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Post by carp (SPC, Itoh Respect Army) on Oct 11, 2011 15:33:33 GMT -5
The thing about Triple H? He's not a star. He never was. I know people TREAT him like a star, and everyone talks about how he's a star, but he's not.
He has no crossover appeal, and he's never captured people's attention as the face of the company. He was a very very good worker back in the day, and he was "loyal," so I can understand wanting him in a prominent position. But no one who wouldn't wear a wrestling T-shirt in public knows who the hell he is. He's Tito Santana, if everyone acted like Tito Santana was The Rock.
They want him to be really really over, and storylines require him to be really really over, but he cannot maintain that level of popularity without being cast as the coolest, toughest, most awesome guy in the world. The Reign of Terror wasn't HHH stroking his own ego; it was HHH not being believable as a top heel unless he won clean more than any other top heel in history ever has.
Even now, I truly believe that they really think they're going to finish this with Punk and del Rio and Rhodes and Ryan and whoever all huge huge stars because of HHH! I think it's really unfair to assume the man himself is insisting on being treated like hot stuff.
But the fact of the matter is: HHH couldn't work in this role if the walkers-out had had legitimate points. It wouldn't work if he acted upset about them leaving instead of smug. It wouldn't work if he had lost to Punk when they wrestled.
HHH needs to be protected, because in order for him to be the big deal they want him to be, he can have no chinks in his armor, period. And now they're in a corner because of it.
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Post by Ryback on a Pole! on Oct 11, 2011 15:51:29 GMT -5
I was a defender of Triple H until last night because really, I was enjoying his stint as COO. He was more entertaining and actually had a sympathetic character since he was trying to do the right thing but kept getting screwed over.
Last night though made me want him to go away. From him tearing apart the entire roster, the 'wrestling a broom' comment (which I disagree with since the roster is excellant at the moment) the fact the faces all came to the ring and sucked Triple H's dick and then finally Triple H fully instated as the main focus of Raw.
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Post by zeez on Oct 11, 2011 15:54:26 GMT -5
If HHH is such a big deal, why does he need all this ego-stroking and spotlight hogging? Because he's Triple H. |
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Post by noleafclover1980 on Oct 11, 2011 18:19:58 GMT -5
The thing about Triple H? He's not a star. He never was. I know people TREAT him like a star, and everyone talks about how he's a star, but he's not. He has no crossover appeal, and he's never captured people's attention as the face of the company. He was a very very good worker back in the day, and he was "loyal," so I can understand wanting him in a prominent position. But no one who wouldn't wear a wrestling T-shirt in public knows who the hell he is. He's Tito Santana, if everyone acted like Tito Santana was The Rock. They want him to be really really over, and storylines require him to be really really over, but he cannot maintain that level of popularity without being cast as the coolest, toughest, most awesome guy in the world. The Reign of Terror wasn't HHH stroking his own ego; it was HHH not being believable as a top heel unless he won clean more than any other top heel in history ever has. Even now, I truly believe that they really think they're going to finish this with Punk and del Rio and Rhodes and Ryan and whoever all huge huge stars because of HHH! I think it's really unfair to assume the man himself is insisting on being treated like hot stuff. But the fact of the matter is: HHH couldn't work in this role if the walkers-out had had legitimate points. It wouldn't work if he acted upset about them leaving instead of smug. It wouldn't work if he had lost to Punk when they wrestled. HHH needs to be protected, because in order for him to be the big deal they want him to be, he can have no chinks in his armor, period. And now they're in a corner because of it. He's like a more credible Jeff Jarrett to me. At least Triple H looks like he can beat everyone's ass. |
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