hassanchop
Grimlock
Who are you to doubt Belldandy?
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Post by hassanchop on Nov 15, 2011 4:12:52 GMT -5
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Post by rnrk supports BLM on Nov 15, 2011 4:30:23 GMT -5
He'll definitely be at Survivor Series, even if they don't book an actual match for him.
Getting jackknifed by Nash, maybe.
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Post by Sparvid on Nov 15, 2011 6:31:03 GMT -5
Double book Ziggler again. Why not. Ziggler's new gimmick: Wrestling twice on every PPV. |
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Post by walsh7637 on Nov 15, 2011 7:13:30 GMT -5
....Boston boos hometown boy Cena and cheers Long Island New Yorker Ryder? I presume in other news pigs flew and hell freeze over last night too?  - The dark match before tonight's WWE RAW in Boston saw Michael McGillicutty defeat JTG. Wow, that sounds like the complete antithesis of the post Raw dark match. |
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Post by Jew4Bacon on Nov 15, 2011 12:20:55 GMT -5
woo woo what a reaction.. he is out popping the top faces in the company
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Post by Brother Nero....Wolfe on Nov 15, 2011 12:35:06 GMT -5
Wow. I always loved Ryder but didn't know how far he could go. But now it's beginning to dawn on me that he's gonna go really far.
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Bo Rida
Fry's dog Seymour
Pulled one over on everyone.
Got away with it, this time.
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Post by Bo Rida on Nov 15, 2011 16:00:45 GMT -5
He got on the mic at the end too.
Zack Ryder WWE Raw 11-14-11 Post-Show
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2011 16:06:06 GMT -5
The problem with Ryder is that he's still sort of the little engine that could at the moment, it helps that he isn't overexposed. If/when he moves to the upper card permanently he'll be featured on TV even more prominently and who knows if people will remain interested. It will be interesting to see for sure, though.
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Post by moneyman20 on Nov 15, 2011 16:06:54 GMT -5
Awesome. As much as we criticize the way it looks on TV, that looked like it was a great time live.
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Cronant
Bill S. Preston, Esq.
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Post by Cronant on Nov 15, 2011 16:07:00 GMT -5
woo woo what a reaction.. he is out popping the top faces in the company Punk, Cena, Orton, and Ryder all raising their arms together. So weird. Like, 2 of those guys are touted as the "Golden boys" and the other two are "Internet faves WWE holds back". So crazy. What a way to give everyone what they want. |
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Tiger Maskooo
Samurai Cop
I cant hear you over the sound of how much im tiger masking
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Post by Tiger Maskooo on Nov 15, 2011 16:13:57 GMT -5
man ryders going to be world champion one day. this whole thing is surreal.
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Post by PTBartman on Nov 15, 2011 16:14:56 GMT -5
How over he is isnt what amazes me. What amazes me is he did it mostly all by himself. He should be a lesson to every wrestler coming up. I never want to hear another wrestler complain about the writers or creative. If you can't get over, it's a you problem not a them problem.
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Allie Kitsune
Crow T. Robot
Always Feelin' Foxy.
Celestial Princess in Exile.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Nov 15, 2011 16:40:22 GMT -5
How over he is isnt what amazes me. What amazes me is he did it mostly all by himself. He should be a lesson to every wrestler coming up. I never want to hear another wrestler complain about the writers or creative. If you can't get over, it's a you problem not a them problem. Of course, the Ryder method isn't going to work a second time. That's the kind of thing that can only be done once. Someone else underutilized tried to get over through a webshow, they'll be dismissed (by fans, if not the company) for copying Ryder. |
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Post by femmejomo on Nov 15, 2011 16:43:06 GMT -5
The annoying thing is, there are plenty other heels kicking about who could've taken Christian's place on Team Barrett. I don't see the logic in putting Ziggler in there when he's in the midst of his feud with Ryder. Surely this petition would've lead to a match at SS. Of course Ziggler could be double booked again and after SS he can use the fact he's been double booked in consecutive PPV's in one of his post-Survivor Series promos, but the point is, there are guys like Drew McIntyre for example who could have easily stepped into Team Barrett. Well put. These were my thoughts as well. |
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Toates Madhackrviper
King Koopa
Is owed an Admin life-debt.
This avatar is so far out of date I might as well stick with it forever now.
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Post by Toates Madhackrviper on Nov 15, 2011 16:45:27 GMT -5
How over he is isnt what amazes me. What amazes me is he did it mostly all by himself. He should be a lesson to every wrestler coming up. I never want to hear another wrestler complain about the writers or creative. If you can't get over, it's a you problem not a them problem. Um no. No. Ryder is lightning in a jar and its great to see but that does NOT mean that its the wrestler's job to get himself over if he isnt getting any TV time. Its good that Ryder did it... for his sake. But I hate it for the rest of the undercard's sake. f***ing Vince is going to use this as justification for his "a wrestler gets himself over if he wants TV time" mentality. So I actually almost hate Ryder's rise to prominence because of it. |
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Cronant
Bill S. Preston, Esq.
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Post by Cronant on Nov 15, 2011 16:50:31 GMT -5
How over he is isnt what amazes me. What amazes me is he did it mostly all by himself. He should be a lesson to every wrestler coming up. I never want to hear another wrestler complain about the writers or creative. If you can't get over, it's a you problem not a them problem. Um no. No. Ryder is lightning in a jar and its great to see but that does NOT mean that its the wrestler's job to get himself over if he isnt getting any TV time. Its good that Ryder did it... for his sake. But I hate it for the rest of the undercard's sake. f***ing Vince is going to use this as justification for his "a wrestler gets himself over if he wants TV time" mentality. So I actually almost hate Ryder's rise to prominence because of it. I'd actually somewhat agree with that thought though. They have tons of guys on the roster in WWE and FCW, and yes, they LIKE some and will try to push guys that they think will work, but that doesn't go for everyone. You have to separate yourself, and thats gotta be on the wrestler to do so. It doesn't always work, and sometimes it could backfire, but thats why its a risk. Ryder took it and it paid off. Might work for someone else, might not. |
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Post by The G.O.A.T. on Nov 15, 2011 17:38:21 GMT -5
Random WWWYKI
thats all
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DavidArquette
Don Corleone
The actor formerly known as avanteproject
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Post by DavidArquette on Nov 15, 2011 17:47:36 GMT -5
I'm in the minority I guess but I still don't get why he is over. He's great in the ring, yeah, but I don't see what's so entertaining about his character/personality.
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Bub (BLM)
Patti Mayonnaise
advocates duck on rodent violence
Fed. Up.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Nov 15, 2011 17:54:42 GMT -5
I'm in the minority I guess but I still don't get why he is over. He's great in the ring, yeah, but I don't see what's so entertaining about his character/personality. I don't think it's his character. I know the reason I love the guy is because you can just tell that he's a fan who is having the time of his life. He doesn't seem like someone who was a fan, and then became a superstar. He seems like a fan who stayed a fan, he just happens to wrestle for WWE. It's hard not to love that. |
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Post by Brother Nero....Wolfe on Nov 15, 2011 18:10:50 GMT -5
How over he is isnt what amazes me. What amazes me is he did it mostly all by himself. He should be a lesson to every wrestler coming up. I never want to hear another wrestler complain about the writers or creative. If you can't get over, it's a you problem not a them problem. Of course, the Ryder method isn't going to work a second time. That's the kind of thing that can only be done once. Someone else underutilized tried to get over through a webshow, they'll be dismissed (by fans, if not the company) for copying Ryder. Yeah, it already happened even. Curt Hawkins tried to start a webshow but...well, it wasn't very good. Also it seemed kinda weird considering his character. Hell, Tommy Dreamer's show gets complaints about ripping Ryder off even though it's a parody and he isn't even with the company anymore. |
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