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Post by molson5 on Nov 3, 2011 20:56:10 GMT -5
Seriously, you can't expect me to believe that Mason Ryan is the end result of hard work and vitamins? Odds are there's a lot of more exotic substances going on there, but if you don't think "hard work" is a part of it as well, you're wrong.
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Post by Red Impact on Nov 3, 2011 20:56:30 GMT -5
Honestly, yeah, they travel a lot, but they also work 30 minutes a day. I think they could have time train pretty hard. Sure maybe the actual in-ring work adds up to maybe 30 minutes, but then when you factor in traveling all over the country, and all the other non-wrestling stuff superstars do for the WWE, they aren't getting in the amount of time they would need to reach their max. And add that with the fact that they get little time to rest, don't get to eat properly everyday, and are constantly taking bumps and having to heal from various injuries, it's nearly impossible to put on any serious muscle mass without a bit of help. I think it'd be very hard. I think it'd be less than ideal. I don't think it'd be nearly impossible though, especially when your look is your job. You're going to figure out how to keep up with your training on the road, just as part of the lifestyle. You're going to find out (pretty quickly) how to eat properly, which you can do at most places. If this was a 9 to 5 job, then absolutely I think it'd be nearly impossible. But I think that while it'd be hard, they'd be able to find a way to keep up a very good physique while on the road. That's not to say all of them are, I don't believe that, but I don't believe in the notion that it's the only way to get there for wrestlers.
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Post by BigWill on Nov 3, 2011 21:04:17 GMT -5
Sure maybe the actual in-ring work adds up to maybe 30 minutes, but then when you factor in traveling all over the country, and all the other non-wrestling stuff superstars do for the WWE, they aren't getting in the amount of time they would need to reach their max. And add that with the fact that they get little time to rest, don't get to eat properly everyday, and are constantly taking bumps and having to heal from various injuries, it's nearly impossible to put on any serious muscle mass without a bit of help. I think it'd be very hard. I think it'd be less than ideal. I don't think it'd be nearly impossible though, especially when your look is your job. You're going to figure out how to keep up with your training on the road, just as part of the lifestyle. You're going to find out (pretty quickly) how to eat properly, which you can do at most places. If this was a 9 to 5 job, then absolutely I think it'd be nearly impossible. But I think that while it'd be hard, they'd be able to find a way to keep up a very good physique while on the road. That's not to say all of them are, I don't believe that, but I don't like the notion that it's the only way to get there for wrestlers. Of course the superstars can keep in good physical shape. But there comes a point where it's beyond just a good physique. Some superstars, not all or even most, are at that point. Just look at some of the biggest natural bodybuilders in the world. And there's several superstars that are bigger than them. You think that a pro wrestler could get bigger than someone with the best genetics, best personal trainers, and dedicates their entire lives to bodybuilding?
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Post by Red Impact on Nov 3, 2011 21:07:57 GMT -5
I think it'd be very hard. I think it'd be less than ideal. I don't think it'd be nearly impossible though, especially when your look is your job. You're going to figure out how to keep up with your training on the road, just as part of the lifestyle. You're going to find out (pretty quickly) how to eat properly, which you can do at most places. If this was a 9 to 5 job, then absolutely I think it'd be nearly impossible. But I think that while it'd be hard, they'd be able to find a way to keep up a very good physique while on the road. That's not to say all of them are, I don't believe that, but I don't like the notion that it's the only way to get there for wrestlers. Of course the superstars can keep in good physical shape. But there comes a point where it's beyond just a good physique. Some superstars, not all or even most, are at that point. Just look at some of the biggest natural bodybuilders in the world. And there's several superstars that are bigger than them. You think that a pro wrestler could get bigger than someone with the best genetics, best personal trainers, and dedicates their entire lives to bodybuilding? Well, again, I'm not doubting that people are on it, obviously people are because people get busted for it pretty regularly. But this thread is about why people assume that every big guy is on it. I don't believe they are.
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Post by Acclaim Entertainment on Nov 3, 2011 21:09:06 GMT -5
Remember, when you assume, you make an ass out of you and me.
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Post by bestthateverdidit on Nov 3, 2011 21:22:47 GMT -5
Wrestlers have lied and changed their stories too many times when it comes to roids for me to have any faith in them. So eddie dies, vince comes out with a new testing policy. Then wm22 rolls in and who is the most clearly roided up guy there? Yes, vince himself. Then follows the benoit tragedy, dr astin, the signature scandal, dave batista approaching 40 yet still carrying near 300lbs on him, losing about 100 shortly after departing. Lashley, a man who reportedly gained 100lbs in one year gets brought in and pushed. I could go on.
If, in the face of all that you still believe the policy is legit, i admire your good faith.
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Post by jobber2thestars on Nov 3, 2011 21:59:22 GMT -5
You'd be surprised at how good of shape and how much muscle you can put on by lifting and eating correctly. Focusing on the eccentric portion of a lift combined with slow movement of the weight can really stimulate muscle growth. Getting into the type of shape you see these guys as being in isn't done because it's a hobby, at their fitness level it's a lifestyle. Now, that doesn't mean some guys aren't on steroids, but you'd be surprised at how big someone can get through natural means. Also, don't forget that steroid use alone doesn't give you the body of a Greek god. You still need to put in the work required for muscle hypertrophy.
On the otherside, you'd also be surprised at how much weight and muscle can be lost from not working out and eating unhealthily for a while. From my own experience, I can say I've gained a good amount of fat and weight in the month since breaking my ankle and not being able to workout (I've also been eating a ton of crap).
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Post by neuro on Nov 3, 2011 22:01:21 GMT -5
I always assumed Bourne was on SOMETHING, even back in his ROH days. His physique always looked unnatural to me. I have no idea what he got caught with, but it didn't surprise me Evan got wellnessed. The only people I'd be stunned if they got wellnessed would be Punk, HHH, and Cena. He got wellnessed for synthetic pot not roids
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Post by Magnum Opus on Nov 3, 2011 22:10:00 GMT -5
He got wellnessed for synthetic pot not roids Do we actually have confirmation on that or did everybody decide that a newz post mentioning synthetic pot busts was clearly trustworthy and not just speculation that was carefully worded so it wouldn't actually be wrong if more details came out and contradicted it?
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Post by dh03grad on Nov 3, 2011 22:14:38 GMT -5
Guys like Mason Ryan and Batista at his biggest makes known longtime steroid users like Luger and Warrior look straight up tiny.
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Post by cabbageboy on Nov 3, 2011 22:45:39 GMT -5
To be honest I assume that most of the guys on the roster are on juice, aside from Punk. If guys aren't caught it is because they have found a good masking agent. That and I seriously doubt WWE truly wants to catch anyone on steroids anyway. It's more pragmatic to bust the occasional pothead.
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Post by celticjobber on Nov 4, 2011 0:25:38 GMT -5
I always assumed Bourne was on SOMETHING, even back in his ROH days. His physique always looked unnatural to me. I have no idea what he got caught with, but it didn't surprise me Evan got wellnessed. The only people I'd be stunned if they got wellnessed would be Punk, HHH, and Cena. He got wellnessed for synthetic pot not roids I thought that was just speculation in the thread on here. I haven't even seen it on any of the newz sites I go to.
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Post by Yami Daimao on Nov 4, 2011 0:31:39 GMT -5
Zeke looks naturally built.
Mason Ryan looks like he's about to explode any second.
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Post by The Ichi on Nov 4, 2011 0:37:08 GMT -5
Zeke looks naturally built. Mason Ryan looks like he's about to explode any second. Yeah, I agree with this. I have no proof obviously, but Mason just looks very unnatural. I'm convinced his neck alone is the size of my upper torso.
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Post by neuro on Nov 4, 2011 0:38:29 GMT -5
He got wellnessed for synthetic pot not roids I thought that was just speculation in the thread on here. I haven't even seen it on any of the newz sites I go to. Someone linked an article in the wellness thread
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Post by BigWill on Nov 4, 2011 0:39:26 GMT -5
Zeke looks naturally built. Mason Ryan looks like he's about to explode any second. I would say Ezekiel Jackson looked natural if it weren't for the fact that he has a 6-pack yet still has a fairly large gut.
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Post by rapidfire187 on Nov 4, 2011 0:41:00 GMT -5
Hmm...just had an interesting thought.
Which guys in WWE are known to be totally sober as an uncompromising part of their lifestyle? CM Punk, Daniel Bryan, and Jerry Lawler (not quite as well known as the others, but he is). None of them have ever had super impressive physiques. DB is probably in the best shape of the three and he's still kinda puny.
Food for thought? Or just a coincidence. *shrugs*
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Post by Dr. Bunsen Honeydew on Nov 4, 2011 1:58:52 GMT -5
Probably because every big guy IS roided up (or on insert other substance here). Proof please?
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Post by riseofsetian1981 on Nov 4, 2011 2:11:35 GMT -5
Probably because every big guy IS roided up (or on insert other substance here). Proof please? Not every big guy is on roids. But to say Cena, Batista, Hunter, Mason Ryan, and even Orton never tried steroids or aren't on them is just naive. I'll admit that I was shocked when Edge admitted that he tried steroids. He never had the best body either and when he admitted to using them it blew my mind.
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Post by riseofsetian1981 on Nov 4, 2011 2:12:41 GMT -5
Hmm...just had an interesting thought. Which guys in WWE are known to be totally sober as an uncompromising part of their lifestyle? CM Punk, Daniel Bryan, and Jerry Lawler (not quite as well known as the others, but he is). None of them have ever had super impressive physiques. DB is probably in the best shape of the three and he's still kinda puny. Food for thought? Or just a coincidence. *shrugs* I'd say Taker is pretty natural. I remember seeing him stand next to Batista at the end of Raw and he was pretty ripped, but not roid ripped or anything.
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