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Post by sbia on Oct 26, 2011 13:18:59 GMT -5
What are some myths that seem to be accepted as fact online by a lot of people?
I'll start off with two...
-Jack Swagger wasn't over as World Champion.(Live SD reports confirmed he was drawing heat and people reacted to him on PPV too.)
-Hogan never put anyone over.(Warrior,tapped to Angle in 2002,etc)
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Post by neuro on Oct 26, 2011 13:21:06 GMT -5
-Getting buried means losing one match
-Getting a push means winning one match
-Triple H is the Satan of wrestling and has no redeeming qualities
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Post by DragonMasterP on Oct 26, 2011 13:23:05 GMT -5
Vince Russo was sent to WCW by Vince Mcmahon to destroy it from the inside, and then sent him to TNA to do the same thing.
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Post by sbia on Oct 26, 2011 13:24:05 GMT -5
-Getting buried means losing one match Yeah,this annoys me a lot. Even if the match is 15+ minutes of competitive action and finisher kick outs some people still say their precious CM Punk for example was "buried".
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Oct 26, 2011 13:28:08 GMT -5
What are some myths that seem to be accepted as fact online by a lot of people? I'll start off with two... -Jack Swagger wasn't over as World Champion.(Live SD reports confirmed he was drawing heat and people reacted to him on PPV too.) -Hogan never put anyone over.(Warrior,tapped to Angle in 2002,etc) Just to point out about the Hogan thing, he has admitted undermining Warrior even at the end of that very match and making sure the attention was on him.
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Post by Bo Rida on Oct 26, 2011 13:28:31 GMT -5
That Regal genuinely was a bare-knuckle fighter, even some wrestlers seem to believe that one.
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Post by chazraps on Oct 26, 2011 13:28:40 GMT -5
-Hogan never put anyone over.(Warrior,tapped to Angle in 2002,etc) No, let's break this down: -Was pinned by Warrior at Wrestlemania VI. -Lost clean to Piper at Starrcade '96. -When he DIDN'T have creative control from Feb 2002-Feb 2003, he lost. That's really it. Any other time Hogan was scheduled to lose to someone, he (since he had the power) changed the finish to either something screwy defeating any sort of boost from what pinning him would have been or called an audible and put himself on top. I'd like to believe this wasn't the case, but his track record proves contrary.
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Post by chazraps on Oct 26, 2011 13:31:03 GMT -5
But back in line with the thread -
-Sid crapped his pants at Mania 13.
-Terry Taylor was supposed to originally be Mr. Perfect
-Chris Benoit was murdered and is innocent of killing his family.
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Post by bestthateverdidit on Oct 26, 2011 13:35:15 GMT -5
Vince Russo was sent to WCW by Vince Mcmahon to destroy it from the inside, and then sent him to TNA to do the same thing. this is not a myth.
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Post by FailedGimmick on Oct 26, 2011 13:36:53 GMT -5
-Terry Taylor was supposed to originally be Mr. Perfect I remember a legends of wrestling roundtable about worst wrestling characters that they said it was between Terry and Curt.
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Post by bestthateverdidit on Oct 26, 2011 13:38:28 GMT -5
Also, WWF "stole" the Attitude Era from ECW. Nonsense, as everyone knows now that Vince McMahon was covertly financing Paul Heyman. ECW was basically a loose 'farm' territory for the WWF, with wrestlers not being aware of it, and I suppose the 'ideas' were also 'farmed' from ECW as well, and modified for a mass audience.
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Post by Zaq "That Guy" Buzzkill on Oct 26, 2011 13:40:15 GMT -5
John Cena is a horrible worker who has never had a great match in his career. His matches with Punk were only good because Punk carried Cena throughout.
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Post by PKO on Oct 26, 2011 13:43:01 GMT -5
[*INSERT WRESTLER*] wasn't over. Whether or not someone was over usually seems to depend on whether whoever is telling the story liked the wrestler or not. Kelly Kelly did an interview where she said people don’t want to see woman wrestle - I’ve still never seen proof of this. People exaggerate what she said, but the interview definately exsists because I read it at the time.
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Post by Branimal on Oct 26, 2011 13:47:56 GMT -5
-Hogan never put anyone over.(Warrior,tapped to Angle in 2002,etc) No, let's break this down: -Was pinned by Warrior at Wrestlemania VI. -Lost clean to Piper at Starrcade '96. -When he DIDN'T have creative control from Feb 2002-Feb 2003, he lost. That's really it. Any other time Hogan was scheduled to lose to someone, he (since he had the power) changed the finish to either something screwy defeating any sort of boost from what pinning him would have been or called an audible and put himself on top. I'd like to believe this wasn't the case, but his track record proves contrary. In regards to putting over Piper clean - yes, he did BUT it was the main event of the biggest show of the year and for whatever reason, the title was NOT on the line. Does that even still count? "Sure, I'll put you over clean.. but I'm still keeping the championship".
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Post by machomuta on Oct 26, 2011 13:48:08 GMT -5
No, let's break this down: -Was pinned by Warrior at Wrestlemania VI. -Lost clean to Piper at Starrcade '96. -When he DIDN'T have creative control from Feb 2002-Feb 2003, he lost. That's really it. . How many times did Austin lose cleanly?? It is pretty funny that people bashes HHH and Hogan for never losing, yet they never bash Austin for doing the same thing.
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Oct 26, 2011 13:49:09 GMT -5
"CM Punk has serious martial arts skills." I'm guessing he only learned just enough to make his moveset look cooler. Mind you, he was seriously influenced by KENTA for a while.
"The real Ultimate Warrior died." I still hear this, believe it or not.
"Cena can't wrestle." Granted, whether you like his style of wrestling or not (or anyone else's) is one thing, but just by observing his vastly increased moveset and the way he directs the flow of a match now, he's clearly not the same worker he was seven years ago.
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Post by Branimal on Oct 26, 2011 13:53:08 GMT -5
"Cena can't wrestle." Granted, whether you like his style of wrestling or not (or anyone else's) is one thing, but just by observing his vastly increased moveset and the way he directs the flow of a match now, he's clearly not the same worker he was seven years ago. I hate that chant. I'm not a big fan of the guy but he has his own style. Just he can't wrestle a certain style, doesn't mean he has no ability whatsoever. I hate it almost as much as the "You F**ked Up" chant.
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sbia
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Post by sbia on Oct 26, 2011 13:54:30 GMT -5
What are some myths that seem to be accepted as fact online by a lot of people? I'll start off with two... -Jack Swagger wasn't over as World Champion.(Live SD reports confirmed he was drawing heat and people reacted to him on PPV too.) -Hogan never put anyone over.(Warrior,tapped to Angle in 2002,etc) Just to point out about the Hogan thing, he has admitted undermining Warrior even at the end of that very match and making sure the attention was on him. I knew someone was gonna mention that. You're right.Can't deny that Hogan still looked very strong in defeat and wanted the attention on him. JBL was tremendously over during his WWE title reign - Maybe he was "SmackDown over" but I remember all his big PPV matches being met with either silence or boring chants. Yeah,the Toronto crowd did "the wave" during his match vs Taker at Summerslam in 2004 and his match vs Cena at Wrestlemania 21 from what I remember didn't have a lot of crowd heat.
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Post by Wolf Hurricane on Oct 26, 2011 13:58:12 GMT -5
Vince Russo was sent to WCW by Vince Mcmahon to destroy it from the inside, and then sent him to TNA to do the same thing. Also, Vince McMahon owns ECW (prior to 2001), TNA, and ROH.
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Post by bestthateverdidit on Oct 26, 2011 13:58:23 GMT -5
As for Hogan never jobbing... DUH. That's why he's a big deal. Had he been jobbing all over the place in the kayfabe era, he would've looked like a joke who never should have been at the top. Had he jobbed in the NWO era (where he rarely wrestled on TV anyway) people would have seen him as 'past it' and he wouldn't look legit enough as the leader of a huge heel faction.
It was only his last WWE run where it came time for him to do a few jobs. And that he did.
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