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Post by mrjl on Oct 28, 2011 4:54:27 GMT -5
I would totally rock that shirt if it didn't say "Hustle, Loyalty, Respect" on the back. I never understood how hustling was supposed to be respectful and dignified. there's another type of hustling besides they kind that means tricking an opponent by pretending to be less skilled than you are to win bets. It means put forth more effort, work harder. Like if a group of athlete's in a training camp were running and their coach instructed them to "hustle," he's telling them to move quicker that he's sure they can perform better than they are.
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Post by queenbee on Oct 28, 2011 5:11:36 GMT -5
Cena the wrassler has bored me to death, I just wanted him to come back to his old wigga ways and rap himself in promos and wear dem bling blings and chains. His five doom moves are yaaaaaawn and so are his promos now. But Cena, the wwe employee and Vince's work horse makes me applaud. If he would appear on a tv show while they were touring in Europe, he'd fly out asap and if there's a radio show in australia, he would gladly get up at 4am just to be interviewed. I can't even remember how many times he appeared during the WM weekend, he was practically everywhere. Whenever he wins the belt again and again and again the smark in me snorts, but looking how hard the guy works for the darned company, I just say, okay that's what you get for working your ass off and being the cash cow of the company.
Anyway some fans on twitter are freaking twats. Wishing injury on him and to any other wrestlers are so beyond disgusting.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2011 5:26:21 GMT -5
The fact that there are grown adults in this thread, who have been around long enough to make thousands of posts (literally, thousands!) yet profess to not understand that "hustle" can mean "hard work and rapid diligence" instead of "swindling", kind of scares me.
The fact that there are grown adults of clearly above-average intelligence that seemingly cannot discern between an actor and the role that actor plays in the longest running melodrama in North American history, that also kind of scares me.
The fact that some of you play a "personal experience" card to manufacture outrage at John Cena (the character) being bullied, just because John Cena (the actor) likely hasn't been bullied, well.. that REALLY scares me.
Irrespective of your personal opinions, John Cena (the character) has been THOROUGHLY bullied over the months-unto-years. He has, in kayfabe, been the victim of corrupt refereeing, cheating heels, 8-on-1 beatings and everything in between. In the grand scheme of kayfabe, if John Cena were alloted 1/20th of the latitude society allots the historically bullied to lash back out at their bullies, there would be no discussion whatsoever.
Instead, because of one or two off-color jokes that he was being fed -- that he has apologized many times over for, which should sate all but the professionally offended -- and because he triumphs in the end in the way that a hero should (at least, the way a hero should before heroes were expected to be edgy), he is being crapped upon from on high.
I find Cena boring, borderline generic and a bit cloying at the best of times. But to call him a bully, and to deny what has happened to him is clearly bullying, and to say he can't relate as a result (even though kids relate to the 5'9" 170# adult male Rey Mysterio despite being half their side), that smacks of victimization demagoguery of the highest degree.
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Post by derrtaysouth95 on Oct 28, 2011 5:27:53 GMT -5
So Cena is "bullied"? Victim complex much?
At least he's back to representing something....and jorts weren't in style when he started using them. Those went out in the 90's.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2011 5:50:18 GMT -5
So Cena is "bullied"? Victim complex much? Let's have eight grown men beat the living snot out of you for 20 minutes while no one comes to help, and see if that "victim complex" doesn't set in a bit. I don't care how cloying you find Cena, the fact is, the beating he got at the hands of the Nexus is the single biggest incident of "bullying" that any *character* in the WWE has had to overcome in recent memory. But because he overcame it in triumph, none of that bullying happened?
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Post by Pushed to the Moon on Oct 28, 2011 6:02:47 GMT -5
So Cena is "bullied"? Victim complex much? Let's have eight grown men beat the living snot out of you for 20 minutes while no one comes to help, and see if that "victim complex" doesn't set in a bit. I don't care how cloying you find Cena, the fact is, the beating he got at the hands of the Nexus is the single biggest incident of "bullying" that any *character* in the WWE has had to overcome in recent memory. But because he overcame it in triumph, none of that bullying happened? Yeah he got beat up by 8 guys and no one came to help. A couple of weeks ago he beat the hell out of Del Rio for no reason before announcing his LMS stipulation and no one came to help. Last Monday he insulted Otunga for no reason. That's not "rising above" that's tit for tat. As has been said, wrestling companies are the most ridiculous places for an anti bullying campaign ever since EVERYONE throws out insults and beats each other up in search of revenge.
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Post by MichaelMartini on Oct 28, 2011 6:21:44 GMT -5
So Cena is "bullied"? Victim complex much? Let's have eight grown men beat the living snot out of you for 20 minutes while no one comes to help, and see if that "victim complex" doesn't set in a bit. I don't care how cloying you find Cena, the fact is, the beating he got at the hands of the Nexus is the single biggest incident of "bullying" that any *character* in the WWE has had to overcome in recent memory. But because he overcame it in triumph, none of that bullying happened? This is the guy who almost beat the whole Raw roster once with only one other partner. They've made him so indestructable it's absurd to suggest he was ever bullied in kayfabe. 20 jobbers vs Cena still isn't a fair fight.
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Post by mrjl on Oct 28, 2011 6:45:56 GMT -5
So Cena is "bullied"? Victim complex much? Let's have eight grown men beat the living snot out of you for 20 minutes while no one comes to help, and see if that "victim complex" doesn't set in a bit. I don't care how cloying you find Cena, the fact is, the beating he got at the hands of the Nexus is the single biggest incident of "bullying" that any *character* in the WWE has had to overcome in recent memory. But because he overcame it in triumph, none of that bullying happened? I have been thinking that it's kind of ridiculous no one ever comes out to help him. Not even guys like Yoshi Tatsu or Trent Barretta who's just be beaten down. I mean even Hulk Hogan had people try to rescue him.
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Oct 28, 2011 6:52:11 GMT -5
Let's have eight grown men beat the living snot out of you for 20 minutes while no one comes to help, and see if that "victim complex" doesn't set in a bit. I don't care how cloying you find Cena, the fact is, the beating he got at the hands of the Nexus is the single biggest incident of "bullying" that any *character* in the WWE has had to overcome in recent memory. But because he overcame it in triumph, none of that bullying happened? Yeah he got beat up by 8 guys and no one came to help. A couple of weeks ago he beat the hell out of Del Rio for no reason before announcing his LMS stipulation and no one came to help. Last Monday he insulted Otunga for no reason. That's not "rising above" that's tit for tat. As has been said, wrestling companies are the most ridiculous places for an anti bullying campaign ever since EVERYONE throws out insults and beats each other up in search of revenge. Well, to be fair, it was him just getting tired of Del Rio's cowardice and deciding to take action against it.
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Post by Ryushinku on Oct 28, 2011 9:11:39 GMT -5
I'm just sad to see the jorts go, dammit.
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Post by breakdownthewalls on Oct 28, 2011 10:12:33 GMT -5
Cena rules; no doubt about it.
And considering this thread is 2-3 pages of grown men hating on Cena, it pretty much proves that Cena does get a lot of hatred. And guess what? He rose above that. He's more successful than any of us probably ever will be, and he's still insanely humble.
Not to mention he does more for charity than almost anyone else in the world, between donations and personal appearances. He's a perfect role model in a world where our only role models are talentless celebrities, drug addicts, and people who are famous for being famous.
Cena's awesome, the shirt is awesome, and Cena being the spokesperson for the shirt is beyond awesome.
He's the best possible face of the WWE right now, and honestly, probably the best face of wrestling in history. And still people hate on the guy for what? Not doing an enziguiri or something?
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Post by Hit Girl on Oct 28, 2011 10:20:25 GMT -5
It's a good message
Glad he's ditched the blue denim jorts too.
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Post by The Ichi on Oct 28, 2011 12:31:34 GMT -5
Cena rules; no doubt about it. And considering this thread is 2-3 pages of grown men hating on Cena, it pretty much proves that Cena does get a lot of hatred. And guess what? He rose above that. He's more successful than any of us probably ever will be, and he's still insanely humble. Not to mention he does more for charity than almost anyone else in the world, between donations and personal appearances. He's a perfect role model in a world where our only role models are talentless celebrities, drug addicts, and people who are famous for being famous. Cena's awesome, the shirt is awesome, and Cena being the spokesperson for the shirt is beyond awesome. He's the best possible face of the WWE right now, and honestly, probably the best face of wrestling in history. And still people hate on the guy for what? Not doing an enziguiri or something? This thread isn't "2-3 pages of grown men hating on Cena", it's 2-3 pages of a couple of people taking issue with his statement followed by most of the replies defending his statement. I'm getting so sick and tired of the gross exaggerations that go on around here. Is because people just jump to the last page of a thread and assume how it went instead of reading all the replies or what...?
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Oct 28, 2011 12:41:54 GMT -5
*walks in thread*
Good lord there's alot of rediculous venom in this thread.
*strolls out of thread*
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2011 12:49:47 GMT -5
The fact that there are grown adults in this thread, who have been around long enough to make thousands of posts (literally, thousands!) yet profess to not understand that "hustle" can mean "hard work and rapid diligence" instead of "swindling", kind of scares me. Wow, thanks for insulting me. I really had that coming. I'm well aware that hustle can also mean quickly. But John Cena started talking about "Hulstle, Loyalty, Respect" either during or shortly after being the "Dr, Of Thuganomics" and to me it always seemed that swindling was the meaning of the word he was going for. If you see someone dressed in hip hop attire, and it says "Hustle" on their clothing, most would assume it was the street connotation of the word, and not that the wearer was a fan of doing things quickly. I wasn't even hating on Cena, and I said I liked the shirt.
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Post by SAJ Forth on Oct 28, 2011 13:38:29 GMT -5
I enjoyed when Cena stood beside the fan with the disapproving shirt while wearing his own.
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Post by crimsonwolf on Oct 28, 2011 13:53:57 GMT -5
Technically Cena does have a point about being bullied. Half the crowd breaks out into a "Cena Sucks" chant all because Cena's just being himself. Reminder, this is kayfabe wise. Happy to see the jorts go, but I honestly don't like the Military Camo either. Personally I preferred it if they were a darker shade;
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Post by moneyman20 on Oct 28, 2011 13:57:33 GMT -5
*Looks at article.*
awwwwwww.
*Looks at response.*
Some of you are looking way too much into this.
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Post by mrjl on Oct 28, 2011 16:40:57 GMT -5
The fact that there are grown adults in this thread, who have been around long enough to make thousands of posts (literally, thousands!) yet profess to not understand that "hustle" can mean "hard work and rapid diligence" instead of "swindling", kind of scares me. Wow, thanks for insulting me. I really had that coming. I'm well aware that hustle can also mean quickly. But John Cena started talking about "Hulstle, Loyalty, Respect" either during or shortly after being the "Dr, Of Thuganomics" and to me it always seemed that swindling was the meaning of the word he was going for. If you see someone dressed in hip hop attire, and it says "Hustle" on their clothing, most would assume it was the street connotation of the word, and not that the wearer was a fan of doing things quickly. I wasn't even hating on Cena, and I said I liked the shirt. It means putting forth greater effort, it just happens that putting forth greater effort results in things being done quicker.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Oct 28, 2011 17:12:02 GMT -5
Cena talk is super serious business.
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