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Post by Allison Reynolds on Jan 31, 2006 7:08:49 GMT -5
A while back, I made a thread asking who was the IWC Second Most Hated Superstar, with Randy Orton being the winner. I figured John Cena is the most hated because of all the Cena Hate Threads. John Cena was hated much because of his gimmick his poor workrate his..... and lots more (and I mean alot) However Randy Orton seems to be gaining more and more hate. *Especially since this weeks Smackdown spoilers comments and the Bob Orton Undertaker situation, where some felt that both Ortons should be fired. So my question to finally decide it once and for all is: Who is WrestleCrap's Most Hated Superstar? Randy Orton or John CenaElect your most hated.
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Post by Baixo Astral on Jan 31, 2006 7:10:27 GMT -5
Who the hell thought Blandy should be fired? Because his dad is a 'hep' cat? Apparently, he didn't know either.
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Post by The Jeebus on Jan 31, 2006 7:10:54 GMT -5
Randy isn't as talented as Cena, but Cena is more annoying.
Tough call, but if Cena was turned heel, Randy would definitely be the worst.
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Post by TheThreadKiller on Jan 31, 2006 8:35:25 GMT -5
You asked who "Wrestlecrap" hates more, which is obviously Cena.
I myself like Cena alot, along with Orton. But yeah, IWC is a brutal place to be discussed.
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Post by #Classic Hi-Definition X on Jan 31, 2006 9:04:52 GMT -5
I'd say Cena, but Orton isn't that far behind.
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Post by imposter on Jan 31, 2006 9:09:37 GMT -5
Randy Orton.
People in the IWC still remember John Cena’s earlier days on SmackDown when he was actually getting some offense in and actually did some moves other than the “five moves of doom.” People also believe he could do well as a heel if it were to happen.
Orton on the other hand is disliked a hell of a damn lot more. Heel or face, that guy really can’t get that major heat.
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Post by Loki on Jan 31, 2006 9:21:22 GMT -5
Orton is like an annoying background noise while Cena is louder than WWII.
Cena hands down.
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Post by THE Dinobot on Jan 31, 2006 9:24:22 GMT -5
Cena. But no reason is needed, due to the subject,
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Jan 31, 2006 9:47:32 GMT -5
I guess I'm probably annoyed more by Cena than Orton, as I'm not all too keen on rap that much to begin with.
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Post by Jiren on Jan 31, 2006 9:47:43 GMT -5
Cena, his goody two shoes act pisses me off
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Post by 4real on Jan 31, 2006 10:14:10 GMT -5
Orton can actually wrestle a decent match, so it's Cena definitely.
Both are getting really terrible scripts though. Orton must stop using Eddie to get cheap heel heat. Cena needs to work on his promos more like he did in 2003
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Post by Erik Majorwitz on Jan 31, 2006 10:33:13 GMT -5
This is no contest: Randy "AWOL" Orton.
Semper Fi, Erik Majorwitz
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Post by jackbauer on Jan 31, 2006 11:24:15 GMT -5
I don't know what peoples problem with Cena is. The guys told to act like a loud face so he does. Orton well just plain blows. I mean the guys been around for like 4 years, two of them with Evolution and is just as bad now as he was when he first came in. Someone had a sign last week on Smackdown that said Orton needs wrestling school. It's true, Ashley who's been with the company for a like 4 months runs circles around him as far as wrestling ability goes. I mean she put on a clinic at the Rumble compared to Orton.
A typical Orton match,
Comes in the ring poses. Ding ding
Goes to lock up, then moves away.
Attacks from behind, with a punch.
Poses
Attacks with a punches and kicks then a drop kick.
Gets thrown out.
Gets mad
Pulls his opponents legs out and gets in and stomps him. Has him reeling.
Goes to the top for a body press.
Hits it, gets up and poses.
Gets beat up. Most of the time in an armbar.
Goes behind hits a reverse backbreaker.
Gloats and goes for the RKO. If he misses the process starts over.
So boring and drab.
We've found another Third Generation Star who sucks.
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Post by bigjimmy on Feb 2, 2006 13:02:01 GMT -5
i found cena entertaining as a heel so i vote orton
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Post by Andrew is Good on Feb 2, 2006 13:08:46 GMT -5
Hmm, I don't understand people bashing Orton's ability to wrestle and put on good matches. He and Benoit put on matches of the week recently (well, I guess people will say that Randy Orton was carried by Benoit, but I guess they'll always say that Benoit carried a match if he's in the ring with someone people don't like).
But Cena is more hated. He's made the hate for Triple H look like everyone was giving him a praise party. Even though John Cena has been having good matches recently, especially on Raw, which will no doubt be the match of the week in my opinion.
But, I think it should also be taken into consideration that Randy Orton isn't the Champion right now. See, there is this weird dynamic that the Champ is always the most hated. So if Cena didn't have the title and Orton did, I think Orton would slightly shift in the lead. Ahh, who am I kidding. There is no wrestler coming up in the future who will get the same amount of hate as John Cena gets.
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Post by Shy Guy on Feb 2, 2006 13:10:56 GMT -5
but they're both so hot.....
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Post by Galluchadore on Feb 2, 2006 13:30:40 GMT -5
Its Cena for me . Orton with the right opponent can have some really solid matches. His character despite being rather dull right now can always be tweaked in the future unlike Cena's who will eventually run its course
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Post by Smarky on Feb 2, 2006 13:39:04 GMT -5
I may not like Cena, but at least you can't blame him for the reasons we hate him. I mean, the goody two shoes act? That's from WWE Creative. The five moves of doom? WWE Creative told him to do that. The 5,934 catchphrases that don't make sense (Real Recognizes Real? WASSUPWITDAT?!)? WWE Creative.
However, in the case of Orton, between the military thing, the nepotism, and his piss poor workrate (can he go ONE match without a chinlock?), he is definitely the greater of the two villains, IMO.
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Post by Rick Mad on Feb 2, 2006 13:53:06 GMT -5
I had to vote for Orton. It's funny, I was one of his biggest supporters when he won the Title from Benoit, my favorite wrestler, but since then I haven't seen too much good out of him.
Cena, I at least CARE. I wanted to see him lose. I enjoyed his matches with Christian and Jericho, and his work with Angle was acceptable as well. The feud with Edge has been downright exciting.
Orton.. just.. whatever. I used to hate when people said it before, but he truely is the definition of bland.
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Post by #Classic Hi-Definition X on Feb 2, 2006 13:57:19 GMT -5
You know, I find it interesting that much of the Intraweb was going ga-ga over Cena in 2003 and Orton during his IC title reign in 2004 (especially after his match with Mick Foley at Backlash). People were clamoring for them to win the world title. Fast forward 2 years, and now these same 2 men that everyone loved in 2003-04 are now 2 of the most hated on the Intraweb. Funny how things change, isn't it?
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