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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2012 22:40:00 GMT -5
Jobber squashes
I miss when it was a really big deal to see TWO matches on the same card with contracted wrestlers facing off...even though that generally just meant The Rockers were jobbing to Demolition again =P
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2012 22:42:21 GMT -5
Heel JBL.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2012 23:07:01 GMT -5
Actual tag teams Wrestling. Raw is just a boring-ass two hour commercial for a way too expensive PPV that happens far too often. Mr. Perfect beating some random jobber wasn't a 5 star match, but it was a match, it advanced Perfects character and usually a storyline with bit and pieces of commentary. Yeah, that too
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Post by The Beast Disincarnate on Jun 22, 2012 3:41:01 GMT -5
The out of the blue babyface pushes to the moon.... One day some guy arrives, smiling...see him?! YOU MUST love him. No story, no hype nothing just..love him and shut up.
Still hate it.
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Cranjis McBasketball
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Knew what the hell that thing was supposed to be
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Jun 22, 2012 5:48:02 GMT -5
A concise promo. "At SummerSlam, you will lose Rick Martel!" is far more effective than "blah, blah, blah out comes someone, blah, blah, blah, out comes someone else, blah, blah, blah, main event."
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Pulled one over on everyone. Got away with it, this time.
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Post by Bo Rida on Jun 22, 2012 7:43:44 GMT -5
Hulk Hogan - These days I appreciate how he could hold a crowd in the palm of his hand but back then I wasn't too fond of his patriotic aspect of gimmick, his stupid sermons (you can't even say Vitamins, of course I'll stay in school and not do drugs I'm 7) and his actions at WM9.
Jim Duggan - For many of the same reasons as Hogan
WCW - I always seemed to tune in for something stupid or Hogan in the pre-NWO days, after than I just didn't get the NWO and hated Goldberg, when it was dying I only seemed to see the Maestro. Now I watch vintage collection and realise just how many great matches I overlooked. Of course Vince's propaganda probably helped.
Howard Finkel - I took him granted, I just thought that's what all wrestling announcers were like, little did I know there wouldn't be anybody else nearly as good.
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More of a B+ player, actually
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Post by SEAN CARLESS on Jun 22, 2012 8:06:02 GMT -5
How built and hot Sensational Sherri actually was. I remember the moment, though, haha: when Warrior stripped her practically naked in that cage match with Savage.
Also...
...that Tito Santana was a really good wrestler. My ten year old self viewed him at the time the same way a kid today views a lower midcarder. His absolute IC title glory period was about a year before my fandom really kicked in. Didn't realize until I actually understood the business and what went into it just how good the guy was --and the reason he was kept around for so long.
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RIP - Macho for Hall of Fame
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Post by beamanhogan on Jun 22, 2012 8:54:21 GMT -5
Three wrestlers:
1) Hacksaw Jim Duggan - I never realized how much I enjoyed his gimmick as a kid until I saw him at a house show a few years ago and the place went nuts for him. I felt like a kid again and was chanting USA and HOOOOO at the top of my lungs the entire time.
2) Greg Valentine - I always didn't like him from a straight heel perspective. Now, when I go back and watch his matches I marvel at his control of the ring in regards to pace and the crowd.
3) The Brainbusters - I hated these two as a kid (I should also point out I wasn't much of a WCW fan later in life either). Now I love their brief WWF run.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2012 10:33:24 GMT -5
Gorilla Monsoon & Bobby Heenan as an announcing team. I preferred Jesse Ventura with him.
Later on, as I watch more of the old Prime Time Wrestling, he's really become one of my favorites. That and all the funny stories Bobby Heenan would tell about him. That's why they worked so well, they were really close friends.
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Post by BoilerRoomBrawler on Jun 22, 2012 11:02:20 GMT -5
I'll add actual wrestling as well. More specifically, the craft of it from the athleticism to technique to psychology. Totally went over my head back in the day.
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Post by Essential1 on Jun 22, 2012 11:22:02 GMT -5
Early signs of the attitude era. For some reason I liked things the way they were thought 1996 had the perfect balance and when things went where they went I was surprised by the lack of wrestling on RAW and penis jokes.
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Post by gr1990 on Jun 22, 2012 12:58:12 GMT -5
Definitely the OP with regard to Heyman and JR was a sentiment I shared at age 11, it was just such a shock after the relatively gentle banter between Ross and Lawler, who just came across like bickering roomates in a sitcom who deep down were the best of friends. Whereas Heyman's back-and-forth with JR was pointed, sometimes outright malicious, and in hindsight brilliant.
I really didn't feel The Rock back then at all either, I had the attitude toward him as a kid that most people have to Cena today; his matches always followed the same formula (get dicked on for 20 minutes than turn the tide and win out of nowhere with the same sequence of moves), got too much exposure and his promos followed the same predictable schtick. Looking back at them now, 90% of what he did both in and out of the ring is genius, his promos were laugh-out-loud funny and his matches were nowhere near as predictable as I remember.
And then just the general drawbacks of the Attitude era as a whole; mainly its political incorrectness and the video game-like nature of alot of the wrestling.
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Post by Greer on Jun 22, 2012 14:20:44 GMT -5
Steve Austin.
While I understood his immense popularity, I wasn't a mark at all for him. I always rooted for Vince in every feud they had and was kinda just bored with Austin's stuff.
Looking back I realize how great he was from '98-'01 and how he changed what a top face was meant to be.
I watch his promos on youtube regularly and am just in awe of how great his mic work was.
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Post by brigante133 on Jun 22, 2012 17:26:01 GMT -5
Sadly Flair and Macho Man. My family had me watching wrestling since I was pretty much born so by the time I got old enough to appreciate wrestling, those guys seemed stale because they were the guys I always saw raving like lunatics and it was a little played out. Granted, it wasn't Flair and Savage in their prime but I don't know how I grew up being so bored by guys that entertaining.
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Post by Dr. Bolty, Disaster Enby on Jun 22, 2012 17:35:04 GMT -5
Edge and Christian.
I was just completely worked by their heel act. I hated them. Hated, hated, HATED them so much. The obnoxiousness, the five second poses, Edge's fake food poisoning, their whole deal.
They were brilliant wrestling personified.
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Post by PKO on Jun 22, 2012 17:40:54 GMT -5
Edge and Christian. I was just completely worked by their heel act. I hated them. Hated, hated, HATED them so much. The obnoxiousness, the five second poses, Edge's fake food poisoning, their whole deal. They were brilliant wrestling personified. Oh, ditto them. I loved the Hardys and Dudleys and couldn't stand E & C.
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Post by Ryanar on Jun 22, 2012 19:36:26 GMT -5
How built and hot Sensational Sherri actually was. I remember the moment, though, haha: when Warrior stripped her practically naked in that cage match with Savage. Also... ...that Tito Santana was a really good wrestler. My ten year old self viewed him at the time the same way a kid today views a lower midcarder. His absolute IC title glory period was about a year before my fandom really kicked in. Didn't realize until I actually understood the business and what went into it just how good the guy was --and the reason he was kept around for so long. Thats Another thing i didn't appreciate. And Looking back on it, Sherri was really hot. I used to hate her in Harlem Heat, but i was to young to take interest in female attraction. That didn't really change until i started watching WWF and i saw Trish Stratus for the first time.
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Post by Unocal 76 on Jun 23, 2012 10:18:30 GMT -5
The RTC.
Hated their guts when I was younger, wanted them to lose a lot: I thought Ivory was a traitor when she sold her soul to fight the good fight.
In retrospect, I now think how mid-card heels today would kill for the heat they got back then (When I met Stevie Richards last summer at Chicago Wizard World, I admitted I was thrilled to finally meet a member of the RTC).
Also, I used to hate how there were so, so many tag teams: Now, I miss the days of multiple teams and when tag team title matches were a big deal (Last year, when I met Sunny, I referred to her managing 3 straight tag champs by saying "Good luck finding 3 tag team title threats today."
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Post by YiHammer on Jun 23, 2012 12:35:05 GMT -5
JBL and a good midcard
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Post by The OP on Jun 24, 2012 0:21:55 GMT -5
I really didn't feel The Rock back then at all either, I had the attitude toward him as a kid that most people have to Cena today; his matches always followed the same formula (get dicked on for 20 minutes than turn the tide and win out of nowhere with the same sequence of moves), got too much exposure and his promos followed the same predictable schtick. Looking back at them now, 90% of what he did both in and out of the ring is genius, his promos were laugh-out-loud funny and his matches were nowhere near as predictable as I remember. My interest had started waning during the New Generation like a lot of other people, but rather than revitalizing things I thought the Attitude stuff was even worse. And then just the general drawbacks of the Attitude era as a whole; mainly its political incorrectness and the video game-like nature of alot of the wrestling. I felt the same way. I really enjoyed the colorful tag teams like the Hart Foundation, The Rougeaus, The Steiners, and Demolition and the basic good vs. evil morality plays. I was only 12 years old so I didn't connect with the "evil boss" storyline as I hadn't had a job yet, and Austin's redneck shtick didn't appeal to me. And the Rock/Cena comparison is spot on, that's exactly how I felt about the Rock. I especially hated "The People's Elbow". I thought it was the absolute dumbest thing I had ever heard of. I'm still not really a big fan of those kind of moves. I didn't like how wrestling changed in the Attitude Era and didn't start watching regularly again until it was pretty much over.
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