Live Raw note. Re: Zack Ryder.

[Snowman]

I was at the show in Hershey and after the opening promo Ryder came out for his match to a HUGE ovation. But when he was in the ring Larenitis came out and said he needed a word with Ryder backstage and Ryder left. He then later came out again for his match and although got a great reaction it was noticeably less of a pop than when he Previously came out, because people had already seen him and were expecting him again.

Reading the raw reports though it seems like this was not shown or acknowledged on TV.

Could this have been done to lessen the pop on tv so as not to show up guys above him on the roster?

[Brother Nero....Wolfe]

Huh, that's...interesting. Maybe they changed booking last minute and had to call him to let him know what they changed?

[bobversion1]

From what I remember.. Didn't Zack come out right away before the commercial? So the huge pop would have been heard and the subdued one wouldn't have been... I've been to a few tv tapings where a wrestlers announced and then they come out and it goes to commercial and they go to the back for a minute or two and then come back out..

[The Legendary Ring Troll {BLM}]

If he came out during commercial, getting the jobber entrance, maybe they decided NOT to give him a jobber entrance suddenly and wanted him to do it live?

[Deleted]

He came out before the commercial, so I'm guessing Johnny had some choice photos to show him on his phone or something while he waited to return from break.

[FUNK_US/BRODUS]

If this is the case, then its amazing how full of shit the WWE are.


For all their pointless corporate crap talking about "running with the ball" and "grabbing the brass ring", when one guy literally does that without their assistance, they pull shit like this. Yes, I know he has a TON of merch out, but I cant help but feel there is gonna be that resentment from some higher ups about him not beign a product of the WWE machine.

[Deleted]

So wait, he came out first to a great reaction, then during the commercial break he went back and then came back out, to lessen the pop he got when his music played in an entrance that no one watching on TV would see?

[PKO]

Yeah, he came out before the commercial break so it won't have anything to do with wanting to lessen his pop.

[Snowman]

Nov 22, 2011 12:43:20 GMT -5 @thickmcrunfast said:

So wait, he came out first to a great reaction, then during the commercial break he went back and then came back out, to lessen the pop he got when his music played in an entrance that no one watching on TV would see?

Not sure. It depends which entrance was shown on tv as I have not seen it on tv yet.

I was thinking that they would have shown the second entrance but From what people are saying they may have shown the first entrance anyway, so maybe they just called him back for some last minute change Of plans.

[Deleted]

He came out before the commercial break. I would assume that would be the first entrance, unless Raw wasn't live last night.

[zeez]

If Johnny brought him to the back after he came out then it happened during the commercial break. Weird.

[DSR]

I hear Laurinatis asked Ryder backstage just so he could tell him he's in the doghouse.

[Snowman]

"Hey Zack, lemme show you this gif on my phone of a kitten falling asleep."

"Are you serious bro, you called me back for this?"

"I know, look at him, he can't keep his eyes open."

*Ryders walks away*

*laurenitis still looking at phone* "Kittens are cute"

[bestthateverdidit]

if there was a change of the booking plan that would have been communicated through the referee, surely?

[moneyman20]

Nov 22, 2011 14:06:41 GMT -5 bestthateverdidit said:

if there was a change of the booking plan that would have been communicated through the referee, surely?

Yeah. That's one of the main reasons why the ref is out there.


Very weird.

[Bo Rida]

Laurinaitis probably told him not to violate WWE copyright by filming on his way too the ring.

[Zaq "That Guy" Buzzkill]

Nov 22, 2011 12:40:17 GMT -5 FUNK_US/BRODUS said:

If this is the case, then its amazing how full of s*** the WWE are.


For all their pointless corporate crap talking about "running with the ball" and "grabbing the brass ring", when one guy literally does that without their assistance, they pull s*** like this. Yes, I know he has a TON of merch out, but I cant help but feel there is gonna be that resentment from some higher ups about him not beign a product of the WWE machine.

Jumping the gun on this a bit aren't we?

[kingoftheindies]

doesn't really mean much. A few years ago when I went to a raw in Hershey, Jericho was already in the ring and had his entrance, Bischoff came out and talked, they went to commercial, Jericho went backstage, and right before they came back from commercial, they picked up Jericho's theme mid song and sent him back to the ring.

[Red Impact]

Nov 22, 2011 12:40:17 GMT -5 FUNK_US/BRODUS said:

If this is the case, then its amazing how full of s*** the WWE are.


For all their pointless corporate crap talking about "running with the ball" and "grabbing the brass ring", when one guy literally does that without their assistance, they pull s*** like this. Yes, I know he has a TON of merch out, but I cant help but feel there is gonna be that resentment from some higher ups about him not beign a product of the WWE machine.

Except he came out to the big pop before the commercial break on TV. Everything happened during the break, and he was back out when the commercial break ended. No one saw the lesser pop except the live crowd, who already popped big for him.

So they didn't do anything that would limit the reaction he got for the fans on TV. A pop isn't going to be sustained through a 10 minute commercial break anyways.