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Post by rawthentic on Jul 5, 2012 19:42:31 GMT -5
"He broke 10,000 sledgehammers and never drew a dime." lol...can't let this get no sold |
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Post by the Black Snow on Jul 6, 2012 1:34:43 GMT -5
"Don't bother switching to that 'up north' wrestling as we have the results right here..OH WAIT! WWF's been dead for 10 years! HAHAHA, what a bunch of assholes."
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Post by clashofchampains on Jul 7, 2012 2:49:40 GMT -5
Biggest positive: no John Cena Era
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Jul 7, 2012 14:12:52 GMT -5
in all honesty if WCW somehow won I doubt we'd have any wrestling on TV now. WCW was incredibly poorly run and even without competition from WWE they would have been closed down by AOL sooner rather than later. This is what I believe would have happened. After all, the reason WCW lost it's television in the first place was that a network executive didn't like wrestling and didn't want it on their channel. If WWF Went out of business I think they still would have made the call to kill WCW, and pretty much kill mainstream wrestling entirely in the United States. |
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Post by Scott Parker on Jul 7, 2012 17:35:47 GMT -5
"I TOLD you that wouldn't put butts on seats!" So, would Foley winning the WWF title would have possibly been viewed as the Fingerpoke of Doom or Arquette incident? |
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Post by Rolent Tex on Jul 7, 2012 23:53:04 GMT -5
As petty as Easy-E could be sometimes, if WCW won and Turner wasn't stupid enough to do the Time Warner merger, Bisch would have delivered on the real WWF vs WCW pay-per-view we all wanted. Unlike Vince, with Teddy Turner's pocketbook, Eric would have no problem picking up ALL of the main eventer contracts. If Stone Cold worked out his problems with Bischoff like he eventually did when Bisch joined the WWE...WCW would have raked in the cash.
"Stone Cold" Steve Austin vs Hollywood Hogan
"Stone Cold" Steve Austin vs Bill Goldberg
The Rock vs Hollywood Hogan
The Rock vs Diamond Dallas Page
Sting vs the Undertaker
D-Generation X vs the nWo
Shawn Michaels vs Bret Hart (You know Bisch would be drooling over this match as long as they'd work out their differences for the money involved and Bret didn't get that kick to the head)
Bischoff would have at least 2-3 years worth of Starrcade/WrestleMania quality main events to push.
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Post by thelonewolf527 on Jul 8, 2012 0:04:58 GMT -5
As petty as Easy-E could be sometimes, if WCW won and Turner wasn't stupid enough to do the Time Warner merger, Bisch would have delivered on the real WWF vs WCW pay-per-view we all wanted. Unlike Vince, with Teddy Turner's pocketbook, Eric would have no problem picking up ALL of the main eventer contracts. If Stone Cold worked out his problems with Bischoff like he eventually did when Bisch joined the WWE...WCW would have raked in the cash. "Stone Cold" Steve Austin vs Hollywood Hogan "Stone Cold" Steve Austin vs Bill Goldberg The Rock vs Hollywood Hogan The Rock vs Diamond Dallas Page Sting vs the Undertaker D-Generation X vs the nWo Shawn Michaels vs Bret Hart (You know Bisch would be drooling over this match as long as they'd work out their differences for the money involved and Bret didn't get that kick to the head) Bischoff would have at least 2-3 years worth of Starrcade/WrestleMania quality main events to push. But see, this is under the assumption that WWF loses in 1999. There was NO way WWE could go out of business in 1998 or 1999 based on how well they started to do. if they go down in 1997, there is no The Rock, there is no DX, there isn't a big Stone Cold Steve Austin. And say these guys go to WCW and make it big, Goldberg probably doesn't happen and a lot of other guys would have probably moved down the card. |
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Post by Rolent Tex on Jul 8, 2012 0:15:19 GMT -5
As petty as Easy-E could be sometimes, if WCW won and Turner wasn't stupid enough to do the Time Warner merger, Bisch would have delivered on the real WWF vs WCW pay-per-view we all wanted. Unlike Vince, with Teddy Turner's pocketbook, Eric would have no problem picking up ALL of the main eventer contracts. If Stone Cold worked out his problems with Bischoff like he eventually did when Bisch joined the WWE...WCW would have raked in the cash. "Stone Cold" Steve Austin vs Hollywood Hogan "Stone Cold" Steve Austin vs Bill Goldberg The Rock vs Hollywood Hogan The Rock vs Diamond Dallas Page Sting vs the Undertaker D-Generation X vs the nWo Shawn Michaels vs Bret Hart (You know Bisch would be drooling over this match as long as they'd work out their differences for the money involved and Bret didn't get that kick to the head) Bischoff would have at least 2-3 years worth of Starrcade/WrestleMania quality main events to push. But see, this is under the assumption that WWF loses in 1999. There was NO way WWE could go out of business in 1998 or 1999 based on how well they started to do. if they go down in 1997, there is no The Rock, there is no DX, there isn't a big Stone Cold Steve Austin. And say these guys go to WCW and make it big, Goldberg probably doesn't happen and a lot of other guys would have probably moved down the card. Excellent point. I think the biggest factors that would have decided when they would have went down are if Vince did certain things differently back then or not. (Since we're being hypothetical here.) What if Vince didn't give vince Russo a chance...which led to the Rock possibly never happening? What if Hogan never left which led to Austin never being fired from WCW? What if Shawn Michaels said screw it and join his brothers in arms in WCW? |
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Post by BrodietheSlayer on Jul 8, 2012 1:44:24 GMT -5
Let's say the WWF died in 96/97, as that seems like the time they were the closest to going under. That started to change in late 97, but let's say Austin never became KOTR, and stayed the Ringmaster, and the decision to mimic ECW was never made.....the WWF could have very well gone out of business then, so, let's say it did.
ECW would regain Austin and Foley, I'm sure. And a lot of the undercard guys that would get over in ECW.....Justin Credible would have probably been created a lot sooner than before, but he would have probably waited a LOT longer (if ever) to get to the main event. Vader probably would have came here for at least a spell before going back to Japan. The WWF guys would help ECW become a solid number 2 to.....
WCW, who would own the wrestling world for a little while, as they would most likely gain Bret, Shawn, Taker, Owen, Bulldog, and a good deal of the other upper/mid level guys. The bad thing about this is that you would have such a mix of egos in a company run many times in chaos.....WCW would have probably lasted until 2002-3 at the latest, and would have been killed just as dead by AOL/TW execs., and in a way, the wrestling business would have died on a major level, on ANY kind of level, at that point. ECW would be the number one promotion by default, but I doubt Heyman alone could have brought that company up to a MAJOR level (and I'm a "Heyman Guy," and I even admit this), and they would probably do a current TNA/current SD level rating after a few years.
In other words, I think WWE winning the war kind of kept wrestling alive, as Vince was able to collect and preserve the history. I'm not sure if Bischoff would have planned to do any of that, and losing the spots on Turner TV would have killed that idea, regardless.
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Post by thelonewolf527 on Jul 8, 2012 2:52:11 GMT -5
Let's say the WWF died in 96/97, as that seems like the time they were the closest to going under. That started to change in late 97, but let's say Austin never became KOTR, and stayed the Ringmaster, and the decision to mimic ECW was never made.....the WWF could have very well gone out of business then, so, let's say it did. ECW would regain Austin and Foley, I'm sure. And a lot of the undercard guys that would get over in ECW.....Justin Credible would have probably been created a lot sooner than before, but he would have probably waited a LOT longer (if ever) to get to the main event. Vader probably would have came here for at least a spell before going back to Japan. The WWF guys would help ECW become a solid number 2 to..... WCW, who would own the wrestling world for a little while, as they would most likely gain Bret, Shawn, Taker, Owen, Bulldog, and a good deal of the other upper/mid level guys. The bad thing about this is that you would have such a mix of egos in a company run many times in chaos.....WCW would have probably lasted until 2002-3 at the latest, and would have been killed just as dead by AOL/TW execs., and in a way, the wrestling business would have died on a major level, on ANY kind of level, at that point. ECW would be the number one promotion by default, but I doubt Heyman alone could have brought that company up to a MAJOR level (and I'm a "Heyman Guy," and I even admit this), and they would probably do a current TNA/current SD level rating after a few years. In other words, I think WWE winning the war kind of kept wrestling alive, as Vince was able to collect and preserve the history. I'm not sure if Bischoff would have planned to do any of that, and losing the spots on Turner TV would have killed that idea, regardless. If WWF dies, so does ECW. Vince's "donations" were the only reason ECW was financially capable of surviving in the first place. |
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