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Post by corndog on Jul 5, 2012 12:30:16 GMT -5
Does anyone else agree with me on this? The guy could talk and go in the ring. I watched the entire match with Hogan after going through the top 100 Hogan matches and I have to say, this was a great match, not just because the Genius wins. When I had 24/7 I watched alot of his matches as a jobber in the mid-80s and he was very good in the ring and I loved his poetry reading before the match. Most people remember him as Randy Savage's brother and Mr. Perfect's manager, but I think he was a very underrated wrestler and should have atleast been a solid midcarder for most of his career.
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Post by lovingway on Jul 5, 2012 13:34:56 GMT -5
I really did wish he was pushed more. It is actually interesting to watch his father's promotion, IWC, and see that he was pushed as the star and Macho Man was more of the loose cannon, enforcer type.
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Post by CaptainFall on Jul 5, 2012 16:06:06 GMT -5
I'm with ya. The problem was his gimmick was a blessing and a curse. A blessing because it fit him perfectly and he great with it but the curse being there was no chance of being anything but a lower midcard worker because of it. It would have been hard to package him as a threat once you've seen him read poetry and do cartwheels.
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Post by britishbulldog on Jul 5, 2012 19:34:06 GMT -5
But he had a suit of armor. Best part of Bunkhouse Battle Royals
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Post by Lardlad on Jul 5, 2012 19:34:17 GMT -5
Where is this list of top 100 Hogan matches you speak of? I'd like to see it and try and watch them all if it's possible.
And ya, I am with you... I think Poffo was underrated and could have gone on to have higher-mid card feuds with guys like Ultimate Warrior, Texas Tornado, etc. I don't think he would have stood out as not fitting in with those guys... he could have hung out on their level.
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Post by saneiac on Jul 6, 2012 1:35:37 GMT -5
Where is this list of top 100 Hogan matches you speak of? I'd like to see it and try and watch them all if it's possible. And ya, I am with you... I think Poffo was underrated and could have gone on to have higher-mid card feuds with guys like Ultimate Warrior, Texas Tornado, etc. I don't think he would have stood out as not fitting in with those guys... he could have hung out on their level. I don't agree with this. Lanny was just too small to hang with guys like that. Really, he was ahead of his time. If he was peaking at the time the WWF had a real cruiserweight division, he could've been a megastar. Good on the mic, solid as a technical wrestler, yet athletic enough to pull off a crazy high spot. If you remember the very beginnings of the Light Heavyweight division, imagine how much better it would've been with TAKA vs. Lanny Poffo instead of Brian Christopher.
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Jul 6, 2012 2:02:35 GMT -5
As a performer, yes. He was part of a triad of guys, Bobby Eaton and Ricky Morton being the other corners there, that were doing stuff that was at least a decade ahead of it's time in the south.
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Post by mybraveface on Jul 7, 2012 6:57:29 GMT -5
I love the "Genius" gimmick. Don't care what anyone says. Lost some of its luster when he managed the Beverly Brothers, but before that, it was awesome. Lanny played it to a TEE!
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Post by jason1980s on Jul 7, 2012 8:18:57 GMT -5
I was glad to see him at Wrestlefest 88 when I got the video. It wasn't a PPV but with the big venue it had a PPV feel. Same goes for Iron Mike Sharpe at Big Event. It was nice to see a guy on the low card get a PPV-like show. I think Lanny Poffo had a pretty long run and don't think that had to do with his brother. I think he was probably a good employee and good at his positition but went as far as he could go during the times. What I really wish for him was to have been the replacement in the Duggan/Snake team at Survivor Series in 88. He was higher up than Scott Casey, at least Poffo had a cool gimmick and had frisbees in the catalog. He deserved a PPV.
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Post by Jiren on Jul 7, 2012 8:23:42 GMT -5
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Post by Mac on Jul 7, 2012 9:41:04 GMT -5
If he were getting started today and read poems and threw frisbees out to the fans he'd be over as a heel.
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Post by Citizen Snips Has Left on Jul 7, 2012 14:36:27 GMT -5
Great midcard heel. Not World Champ material or anything, but very good in the ring and on the mic.
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Post by molson5 on Jul 7, 2012 15:25:59 GMT -5
His match with Hogan is one my most favorite wrestling things ever.
He was a great athlete but he was a prancer, too light on his feet, not unlike John Morrison. He did a lot of moonsault-type stuff in the mid-80s but it all looked like he was floating gracefully down on his opponent like a feather. Just not a physical threat, you never thought he could beat anyone up or anything.
As a heel stooge though, he was perfect.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Jul 7, 2012 15:35:52 GMT -5
He was the first wrestler to do a moonsault in WWF his was more of a kip off the top and middle rope.
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Post by MolotovMocktail on Jul 7, 2012 16:21:48 GMT -5
If he were getting started today and read poems and threw frisbees out to the fans he'd be over as a heel. Maybe have him manage Damien Sandow? I'm holding out hope they do a segment at Raw 1000.
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Post by Hit Girl on Jul 7, 2012 16:23:00 GMT -5
Superb athlete. Heat generating manager persona.
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Post by mizerable on Jul 7, 2012 16:35:07 GMT -5
This is one of those cases where being related to a wrestler actually hurt him. I don't think it would have sit well with a lot of wrestlers if he got a modest push of sorts, since he wasn't as built as some of the other guys during that time. Also, it's really strange how Vince thinks...it's as if you have good mic skills, then he'll want you as a commentator or a manager, even if you can do more.
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Post by kieran on Jul 8, 2012 14:43:10 GMT -5
Was'nt it Lanny and Perfect that smashed the WWF Title with a hammer after a match with Hogan? That was pretty shocking.
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Post by thecrusherwi on Jul 8, 2012 14:55:27 GMT -5
I'm with ya. The problem was his gimmick was a blessing and a curse. A blessing because it fit him perfectly and he great with it but the curse being there was no chance of being anything but a lower midcard worker because of it. It would have been hard to package him as a threat once you've seen him read poetry and do cartwheels. Perfectly stated. I can't add much more to that.
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Post by mrjl on Jul 8, 2012 17:00:21 GMT -5
His match with Hogan is one my most favorite wrestling things ever. He was a great athlete but he was a prancer, too light on his feet, not unlike John Morrison. He did a lot of moonsault-type stuff in the mid-80s but it all looked like he was floating gracefully down on his opponent like a feather. Just not a physical threat, you never thought he could beat anyone up or anything. As a heel stooge though, he was perfect. I only saw a few of his matches, but he definately looked to light. I recall seeing his senton and it looked to me like what someone doing a somersault and rolling on top of someone would look like. No impact at all.
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