Miz and Wrestlemania.

[Ragnal]

Keep forgetting to talk about this, but I noticed it a minute after Team Ace won their match at WM28 when Miz got the pin on Ryder.

Kind of cheating here, but if you don't count the 'Mania pre-shows (And apparently WWE doesn't count them either, so there ya go), Miz is more or less undefeated at the big show.

WM26: Miz & Show defeat Morrison & R-Truth for the Unified Tag titles; Miz got the pin
WM27: Miz def. Cena for the WWE title after Rock adds a no DQ ruling and gets involved in the match
WM28: Miz pins Ryder to give Team Johnny the victory and Ace gets control of Raw & Smackdown

So yeah, either they aren't aware of it, or they've planned for Miz to become the next Undertaker. :/

[Metalheadbanger Man]

The Miz having a 20-0 'Mania streak is a hilarious notion.

[PKO]

They weren't even aware of the Undertakers streak for years.

[Ragnal]

Jul 8, 2012 12:10:38 GMT -5 PKO said:

They weren't even aware of the Undertakers streak for years.

Don't get me wrong, I know that, but I wouldn't be surprised if they planned it out.

Heck, I think Edge even had a streak going until either 23 when Jeff eliminated the both of them from the match or 24 when he lost the belt to Taker.

[SAJ Forth]

They have noted it. I wouldn't be surprised if they build him up as wanting to match Undertaker,

[mizerable]

Jul 8, 2012 12:13:17 GMT -5 Ragnal said:

Heck, I think Edge even had a streak going until either 23 when Jeff eliminated the both of them from the match or 24 when he lost the belt to Taker.

Which was exactly why it was stupid to put him in the MITB match to begin with, if they had no intention of having him win. He had built up an undefeated streak since Wrestlemania 2000, so it was really dumb to just have him drop it in weak fashion, instead of playing that up in a match against Undertaker a year later. If they HAD to have him in a match at Wrestlemania 23, it should have been Randy Orton vs. Edge...hell have it be a DQ or squash match if Edge was too injured to compete full scale.

As far as the Miz thing, I'm pretty sure he's mentioned it several times on TV. It's only 3 matches though, we'll see what happens after another 2 or so.

[Mighty Attack Tribble]

Miz cut a promo a couple of years ago about being 1-0 at WM, only 17 behind the Undertaker, and how he'd eclipse that streak.

[CATCH_US IS the Conversation]

Jul 8, 2012 12:07:23 GMT -5 Ragnal said:

Keep forgetting to talk about this, but I noticed it a minute after Team Ace won their match at WM28 when Miz got the pin on Ryder.

Kind of cheating here, but if you don't count the 'Mania pre-shows (And apparently WWE doesn't count them either, so there ya go), Miz is more or less undefeated at the big show.

WM26: Miz & Show defeat Morrison & R-Truth for the Unified Tag titles; Miz got the pin
WM27: Miz def. Cena for the WWE title after Rock adds a no DQ ruling and gets involved in the match
WM28: Miz pins Ryder to give Team Johnny the victory and Ace gets control of Raw & Smackdown

So yeah, either they aren't aware of it, or they've planned for Miz to become the next Undertaker. :/

It would be easy to ignore Miz losing a pre-show match. However, they can't really do that. Miz/Morrison vs. Carlito/Primo at WM25 was not just a random dark match. They were feuding and given a decent amount of build on television, and was originally meant to be on the main card. They could've easily ignored the loss if a title change/unification wasn't involved, but since that match had the Colons unifying the tag titles, it's in the record books.

a title change was involved, so it can't just easily be ignored

[BigWill]

Jul 8, 2012 14:17:37 GMT -5 CATCH_US IS the Conversation said:

Jul 8, 2012 12:07:23 GMT -5 Ragnal said:

Keep forgetting to talk about this, but I noticed it a minute after Team Ace won their match at WM28 when Miz got the pin on Ryder.

Kind of cheating here, but if you don't count the 'Mania pre-shows (And apparently WWE doesn't count them either, so there ya go), Miz is more or less undefeated at the big show.

WM26: Miz & Show defeat Morrison & R-Truth for the Unified Tag titles; Miz got the pin
WM27: Miz def. Cena for the WWE title after Rock adds a no DQ ruling and gets involved in the match
WM28: Miz pins Ryder to give Team Johnny the victory and Ace gets control of Raw & Smackdown

So yeah, either they aren't aware of it, or they've planned for Miz to become the next Undertaker. :/

It would be easy to ignore Miz losing a pre-show match. However, they can't really do that. Miz/Morrison vs. Carlito/Primo at WM25 was not just a random dark match. They were feuding and given a decent amount of build on television, and was originally meant to be on the main card. They could've easily ignored the loss if a title change/unification wasn't involved, but since that match had the Colons unifying the tag titles, it's in the record books.

a title change was involved, so it can't just easily be ignored

But they have been ignoring it. Miz has mentioned quite a few times in promos that he's undefeated. Besides a dark match is still a dark match, regardless of whether or not there was a title change. And the WWE's managed to easily ignore bigger things than that.

["Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay]

It'd be funny to have Ryback get to a Mania, beat 20 jobbers quickly in one go and say he was 20-0 at Mania like Undertaker.

ONE YEAR BUILD TO NEXT YEAR

[HBL]

So,Miz and a streak,you say?

YES YES YES

[Brother Nero....Wolfe]

Jul 8, 2012 14:39:56 GMT -5 "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay said:

It'd be funny to have Ryback get to a Mania, beat 20 jobbers quickly in one go and say he was 20-0 at Mania like Undertaker.

ONE YEAR BUILD TO NEXT YEAR

I'd laugh so much at this. It would be perfect.

[Stu]

Jul 8, 2012 12:10:38 GMT -5 PKO said:

They weren't even aware of the Undertakers streak for years.

It's hard to really ignore something that isn't there at first. What I mean is, Undertaker was initially put into positions to win his early Wrestlemania matchs. No big deal, right? And back then, who would have known that he would be around for another decade or so? It's sort of as if WWE painted itself into a corner, and before you knew it, Undertaker had racked up all these victories at Wrestlemania. So why not use it to further his storylines?

So in a nutshell, I wouldn't say they ignored it; they just didn't know it was there until it was too late.

[Waffel113]

Jul 8, 2012 14:07:48 GMT -5 SAJ Forth said:

They have noted it. I wouldn't be surprised if they build him up as wanting to match Undertaker,

If they did this they must really want the fans to call for his blood. Also, as a byproduct of the match, Miz would likely die from being suffocated by fist tape.

[Starshine]

A Wrestlemania winning streak that includes a loss in technically his first Wrestlemania match?

Worst winning streak ever.

Actually that's pretty true, all these matches have basically sucked.