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Post by Some Guy on Aug 7, 2012 2:59:35 GMT -5
What exactly was Lawler supposed to say with the whole Sheamus thing? If he just stays quiet, then all we see is Michael Cole saying Sheamus stole the car and now he looks like the heel, when he isn't. He really couldn't say anything else. It's not like anyone here ever complains when the heel commentator does the same s*** but for the bad guys. I think some of you are overreacting. He could have said "Sheamus is getting revenge for ADR constantly showing off his cars and bragging about his wealth" or "What is losing a car to ADR, really?" or "ADR getting what he truly deserves." Saying "BORROWING, BORROWING, BORROWING" repeatedly was just stupid.
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Aug 7, 2012 3:00:47 GMT -5
What exactly was Lawler supposed to say with the whole Sheamus thing? If he just stays quiet, then all we see is Michael Cole saying Sheamus stole the car and now he looks like the heel, when he isn't. He really couldn't say anything else. It's not like anyone here ever complains when the heel commentator does the same s*** but for the bad guys. I think some of you are overreacting. The thing is, the reason that works for heels is because, ideally, most of their arguments SHOULDN'T make sense. We're not SUPPOSED to sympathize with Cole when he fawns over Miz or whoever. But we're meant to agree with Lawler when he just glosses over events or ignores facts in order to make his point. That's where the frustration comes from. He's a face commentator, acting like a heel commentator.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2012 3:03:07 GMT -5
Agree with hate. King is one of the few announcers in the entire game that can actually make me want to turn the channel.
To me, listening to him is like getting trolled hardcore by someone's monster of a six year old that you're watching for them.
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Post by Gerard Gerard on Aug 7, 2012 3:18:06 GMT -5
Call me cynical, but I'm of the belief that Lawler is being deliberately tiresome so Cole'll be less so in comparison. It's an old system called compara-tolerable.
For the record, or CD, or MP3, I'm entirely indifferent to the pair of'em, but I offer my respect, as I can only imagine how utterly ulcer-inducing it must be to have Vince McMahon bark down your ear for 3-hours+.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Aug 7, 2012 3:29:45 GMT -5
When King is making Cole tolerable..............that really says something to me. Is that what is happening? Because I actually thought Cole did a pretty good job calling the main event. I think it's kind of odd though, that Cole does good on Smackdown and NXT, but somehow isn't very good on Raw? He just has nothing to work with out there. I am not saying Cole is great, but's he really a decent to good announcer, he just needs the right partner. Lawler is just plain awful and doesn't care anymore. It's sad because at one point he was very entertaining at the booth. And Cole has been good on Raw. When they had Cole, JR, and King as a team, and Cole wasn't overboard with his heel schtick, he and JR made for a decent team. King was still his tiresome self, with the shots at Otunga and McGuillicutty (while Cole and JR defended them), and saying Punk would be far easier to beat than Cena (after Punk had beat Cena twice). Cole's got nobody to play off of. Cole was good with Taz, JBL, and Matthews. Hell, he and Punk made a good team when Punk was doing commentary.
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Post by ayumidah on Aug 7, 2012 3:39:08 GMT -5
Oh God, I can't even... Tonight he was soooo bad. Between the "car borrowing" thing and "I agree that the WWE CHAMPIONSHIP deserves respect" thing... Who knew there'd come a time that Cole would be the one most easy to stomach?
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Post by Kalmia on Aug 7, 2012 4:56:09 GMT -5
For the record, or CD, or MP3, I'm entirely indifferent to the pair of'em, but I offer my respect, as I can only imagine how utterly ulcer-inducing it must be to have Vince McMahon bark down your ear for 3-hours+. This, basically. I hate Lawler's commentary and wish it was possible to mute him, and keep the noise of everything else, but if he still has a job after all this time then he's doing what is being asked of him. We may hate it, but some people backstage must think he's doing a good job so, he'll keep on doing it.
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Post by Beets by Schrute on Aug 7, 2012 11:20:38 GMT -5
Sheamus can burn down an orphanage on Christmas day and Lawler will justify it
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Post by gnr123 on Aug 7, 2012 11:26:49 GMT -5
Sheamus can burn down an orphanage on Christmas day and Lawler will justify it
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Aug 7, 2012 11:34:02 GMT -5
When it comes to Kelly, Lawler didn't say or insinuate anything that he hasn't before during a women's match. It's not offensive, because given how well some of these girls wrestle it's obvious they're just there for the boys to ****-off to. So there's no harm in that.
Honestly, I haven't heard much at all about how bad Lawler is (not to this extent anyways) until CM Punk got in his face last week. Now, it seems like everybody wants in on the action. Then you honestly haven't been paying attention. Lawler sucking and people recognizing him doing so didn't coincide with the Punk thing at all; these threads have popped up for at least a couple of years on occasion.
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Post by Ryanar on Aug 7, 2012 11:46:05 GMT -5
When it comes to Kelly, Lawler didn't say or insinuate anything that he hasn't before during a women's match. It's not offensive, because given how well some of these girls wrestle it's obvious they're just there for the boys to ****-off to. So there's no harm in that.
Honestly, I haven't heard much at all about how bad Lawler is (not to this extent anyways) until CM Punk got in his face last week. Now, it seems like everybody wants in on the action. Dont even go there. An asseating joke on a pg show is offensive. I may not be offended by it, but its still very offensive. Even moreso than a rape joke. Secondly, Jerry "Stupid" Lawler has been hated for years. And the time i've spent on this forum, he's been hated here for a while. Way before Punk's rant. Just pick up a random raw thread from the past and i guarantee you will be proven wrong.
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Post by B'Cup x on Aug 7, 2012 11:57:40 GMT -5
the only thing that annoyed me was his continued defence of Sheamus with: "its not theft, hes simply taking it for a joyride". Joyriding IS theft.
It annoys me when heel commenators/managers do stuff like this (claiming someones foot wasnt on the rope when it blatently was and has been proved several times on replays) but its even worse when a supposed face has shit 'justifications' for heelish behaviour x
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Post by Massive G on Aug 7, 2012 12:21:37 GMT -5
I'm just wondering how far back you would have to go to find a single night of a person's commentary that was so incredibly, viscerally irritating. And not just irritating, but stupid and insulting and repetitive.
woof.
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Post by Zaq "That Guy" Buzzkill on Aug 7, 2012 12:37:37 GMT -5
I'm just wondering how far back you would have to go to find a single night of a person's commentary that was so incredibly, viscerally irritating. And not just irritating, but stupid and insulting and repetitive. woof. Pick any Raw from mid 2010-2011. Cole and Lawler shouting at each other will drive you insane.
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Post by zeez on Aug 7, 2012 12:39:37 GMT -5
LOOK COLE YOU CAN SEE HER NAVEL
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Post by ben:friendship frog on Aug 7, 2012 13:00:58 GMT -5
When it comes to Kelly, Lawler didn't say or insinuate anything that he hasn't before during a women's match. It's not offensive, because given how well some of these girls wrestle it's obvious they're just there for the boys to ****-off to. So there's no harm in that.
Honestly, I haven't heard much at all about how bad Lawler is (not to this extent anyways) until CM Punk got in his face last week. Now, it seems like everybody wants in on the action. Dont even go there. An asseating joke on a pg show is offensive. I may not be offended by it, but its still very offensive. Even moreso than a rape joke. I don't normally do this but... REALLY? I'm sure you'd still agree if AW made the ass joke about Rosa and King made the rape joke.
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Post by Sajoa Moe on Aug 7, 2012 13:01:33 GMT -5
WAAAT?!
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Post by Hit Girl on Aug 7, 2012 13:02:22 GMT -5
He's awful.
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Post by Milk Toast Face on Aug 7, 2012 13:53:39 GMT -5
Miz against The Kane...
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Post by Caglar13 on Aug 7, 2012 14:09:16 GMT -5
Between the fat jokes at Vickie when she's clearly not fat anymore to his dumb justification for faces he's just completely lost it. Everything from his arrival to the company until he left in 2001 was pretty gold. Every since he came back though he's been coasting along. They need to get rid of him and give someone else the spot but like someone said that won't happen for a really long time.
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