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Post by kingoftheindies on Aug 12, 2012 21:18:23 GMT -5
the problem early on in the New Blood was that literally more than half the roster was a part of it. Watch the Spring Stampede ppv where they had the title tournaments, the crowd literally had no idea who to cheer in pretty much every match outside of Sting, Team Package, and DDP
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Post by notasmark on Aug 13, 2012 1:31:23 GMT -5
As for Goldberg's streak the only guy in 98 who was active at that time that was a big star apart from him was Nash. It made sense for Nash to end the streak. WCW could have had more talented, deserving wrestlers like Chris Benoit, Raven, or DDP end Goldberg's steak. DDP and Raven helped Goldberg put on the very best matches of his career. Benoit: Very talented wrestler but never would of made the most of beating a guy like Goldberg. He would of been in the main event for a few months and then dropped down to Midcard again. DDP: A good choice but the guy didn't need it and him winning would not of lead to great story line potential like Nash did. Raven: Would not of drawn on top had a very "cult" type fan base that would support him whether or not he beat Goldberg
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Aug 13, 2012 2:42:33 GMT -5
The problem with WCW was management that's really it. If you listen to the interviews the main issues were workers didn't know who to talk to in regards to story lines and just general things. Yep, the number 1 reason WWE is still around, and still number 1 is Vince McMahon. Vince oversees it all, it doesn't matter what anyone else says, what Vince says goes. You could have JR tell you one thing, Pat Patterson tell you to do something else, and Vince tell you to do something different, and you'd listen to Vince. In WCW there were a lot of bosses, and a lot of them didn't give a f*** about what was going on, with the exception of the main event. Vince knew what was going on on his show, and if he was busy, somebody close to Vince kept a close eye on the show, and told Vince what happened. The nWo rebooking everything 10 minutes before the show, doesn't happen with Vince in charge. In Jericho's 2nd book he talks about being afraid of Hogan, Hall, and Nash coming in, because of what they did in WCW. He brought it to Taker, and Taker told him, that they wouldn't pull that shit in WWE, because Vince is in charge, but that he would talk to Vince about it. Sure enough, Hogan and Nash were on their best behavior in WWE, because they didn't have that power anymore. Hall was still a douche according to Jericho.
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Post by tms on Aug 13, 2012 14:28:02 GMT -5
I really think the tone of this thread is condescending to WCW fans specifically. If anything, they had an appreciation for wrestling that allowed them to watch and applaud styles which garnered silence in WWF rings (cruiserweight in particular, but even women's wrestling, which didn't result in "puppy" chants; women's wrestling in WCW was uncommon during their heyday but it still went over fine). It's not like WWF's fans were scholars or anything; it seemed anytime anyone needed a pop during a promo, all they had to say was "ASS!"
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Post by eDemento2099 on Aug 14, 2012 0:42:45 GMT -5
I think New Blood was always meant to be heel. If you look at that April 10th show (The debut of New Blood) the New Blood had Bischoff and Russo talking badly about legends of wrestling. It was spearheaded by Bischoff (Who was a heel on TV last), Russo (Who was also a heel) and Jarrett (Who was the top heel) Hmm, that's interesting. I don't remember what Russo and Bischoff were doing in WCW prior to the New Blood angle; I simply remember the reaction of fans to the New Blood faction. Another thing I don't remember: Did RD Reynolds cover the New Blood in the Death of WCW book? I have the book, but cannot recall such coverage.
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Aug 14, 2012 1:27:09 GMT -5
I think New Blood was always meant to be heel. If you look at that April 10th show (The debut of New Blood) the New Blood had Bischoff and Russo talking badly about legends of wrestling. It was spearheaded by Bischoff (Who was a heel on TV last), Russo (Who was also a heel) and Jarrett (Who was the top heel) Hmm, that's interesting. I don't remember what Russo and Bischoff were doing in WCW prior to the New Blood angle; I simply remember the reaction of fans to the New Blood faction. Another thing I don't remember: Did RD Reynolds cover the New Blood in the Death of WCW book? I have the book, but cannot recall such coverage. There really isn't much to talk about when it comes to the New Blood. They were a dominant heel stable for about a month, but then they just faded as the members lost their feuds and titles. By the time New Blood Rising occurred (that's about five months after the reboot), the New Blood had been dissolved, and most of the guys who were in the stable were in completely opposite positions than you would have expected. Candido was gone, the tag team of Shane Douglas and Buff Bagwell had already broken up and feuded, "Career Killer" Mike Awesome is now the babyface "Fat Chick Thriller" feuding with Lance Storm, Billy Kidman had turned babyface despite getting the supposed heel rub from the Hulkster and was now feuding with Douglas over Torrie Wilson and a Viagra bottle, and Goldberg was already in the process of turning face from his disastrous heel run about two months earlier.
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Post by cabbageboy on Aug 14, 2012 14:17:19 GMT -5
If WCW had a fan problem, they created it. By constantly pimping the NWO and having wrestlers badmouth and bury WCW as a promotion, they sealed their own fate. WCW's own inane booking helped wreck their southern towns (Charlotte, Atlanta, etc.) and once they couldn't even draw in the south anymore, where could they draw?
I've always maintained that WCW really didn't have many actual fans outside of the old NWA area, at least not in the post 1994 Hogan era. There were some bandwagon types that followed the NWO era stuff initially (of which I'll confess to being one, though I followed WCW before that casually). WCW was popular nationally for a couple of years, but once the product went south, those fans left.
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