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Post by Michael Coello on Aug 19, 2012 18:18:56 GMT -5
(Warning: Long & Very Angry Read)
And that Jon Taffer guy is a goddamn con artist.
I ranted on this show a few weeks back on my twitter, and I wanted to be done with it then, but thanks to Spike TV constantly showing commercials and marathons for it in between shows I do watch on there, I need to go on a rant on this in a way 140 characters can't cover.
I hate this stupid ass show. I hate everyone on this stupid show. The host, Jon Taffer, is suppose to be this expert in managing and making bars successful. If what he does on the show is his expertise, I'm a goddamn expert, too. He wows people with "clean up the kitchen ofter" , "Make sure you keep your orders organized", "limit your menu to items you can do", and a bunch of other stuff that always seems to amaze the people he is advising to. He just does it and yells to make him be like every big reality show asshole.
He's also constantly over thinking s*** and doing stupid moves as well. Best example is when he changes the name of the bar. He tends to stick with some variation of the name already in place. When he has to think of a new name, though, he's horrible at it. Take the Pirate Bar episode. Yeah, the original name with Zs and kewl lettering was tacky, but to rename the place "Corporate Bar and Grill" cause the buildings around it were corporate companies?! That is honestly stupider! Yet, the owners were the bad guys cause they hated it?!
Also, he wastes money on complicated things. Again, Pirate Bar episode, he wants a small bar in the waiting area so not only can people drink while waiting, but people know the place is a bar. Fair enough. Just get a nice mini bar, costs between $300-500, get an employee to pour drinks and done. This son of a bitch decides ROBOT! and gets not 1, but 2 automated drink mixers and robot bartenders for the room. This isn't the last of it by a long shot. The worst thing is, the show is about the bar opening the books so they know what is lost, but he never considers their basic income and format when getting these big extravagant things for some small bar that doesn't need it.
In addition, you have his "experts", the guy he bring in that are honestly worse than he is. They always try to put themselves out as experts, wearing suit and ties or formal chef gear with big titles and having degrees in mixology or whatever crap, but it doesn't overlook the fact they're bartenders & cooks. I'd also believe that 20 years of experience actually did something to help, but not when all they do is say basic kitchen tips like getting fresh foods, sorting out the ingredients and once again CLEAN YOU F'N KITCHEN! All you chefs and expert mixologists on this show, i'm sorry to tell you, but you just wasted your life.
Not to say the owners are victims in all this,cause they are honestly the picture of stupidity. They honestly can't see the many, many errors in their management and execution of the job, but know that something is wrong?! And always, ALWAYS, when confronted by how badly something is, they act all surprised or either have this act of "well, if no one cares, why should I"? Pretty much every episode has to deal with bad management, and employees saying how they exploit it. Did you really need some balding douche getting the buisiness money/ownership of the bar to know that?!
But the worst, THE VERY WORST THING, that I hate about this show is that it's all because the people in charge CALL HIM IN! They aren't forced to hire the guy, he gets brought in because they don't know what to do. You know what? What the f*** did you try before this? Did you honestly not think to wonder some of this blatantly obvious s***?! HOW THE HELL DID THESE PEOPLE LAST THIS LONG TO BE HAVE SOME SUCCESS AT SOME POINT?! HOW?!?!?!?!?!!?
Seriously,
F*** THIS SHOW! F*** THE HOST! F*** THE EXPERTS ! F*** THE OWNERS! F*** BAR RESCUE!
Show Auction Hunters or American Digger or whatever damn reality shows they got instead of this piece of utter s***!
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Post by celticjobber on Aug 19, 2012 18:24:38 GMT -5
Most reality shows are scripted and fake (even Pawn Stars with it's goofy segments with Chum-Li and the gang). This one probably is too.
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Post by Todd's crazy , Man. on Aug 19, 2012 18:26:26 GMT -5
(Warning: Long & Very Angry Read) In addition, you have his "experts", the guy he bring in that are honestly worse than he is. They always try to put themselves out as experts, wearing suit and ties or formal chef gear with big titles and having degrees in mixology or whatever crap, but it doesn't overlook the fact they're bartenders & cooks. ! Uh what? I'm sorry but that's just wrong. There's a huge difference between a Chef (Which is normally what he brings in) and a short order cook. Just look at this. www.ifood.tv/blog/top-10-highest-earning-chefs-of-worldGuy Fieri makes eight million dollars and I know you're probably saying "But he has a tv show" but then there's Todd English , have you ever heard of this guy before today? seen him on tv? No well he makes a eleven million dollars a year. |
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Post by Michael Coello on Aug 19, 2012 18:37:46 GMT -5
(Warning: Long & Very Angry Read) In addition, you have his "experts", the guy he bring in that are honestly worse than he is. They always try to put themselves out as experts, wearing suit and ties or formal chef gear with big titles and having degrees in mixology or whatever crap, but it doesn't overlook the fact they're bartenders & cooks. ! Uh what? I'm sorry but that's just wrong. There's a huge difference between a Chef (Which is normally what he brings in) and a short order cook. Just look at this. www.ifood.tv/blog/top-10-highest-earning-chefs-of-worldGuy Fieri makes eight million dollars and I know you're probably saying "But he has a tv show" but then there's Todd English , have you ever heard of this guy before today? seen him on tv? No well he makes a eleven million dollars a year. I'm more angry over how they act on the show. Like how they will criticize the food or drink taste and skills of the staff but never actually try to improve those items, just throw it out and put their own things they bring in and force the employees to make them. One chef, Brian, goes above and beyond to be a douche to these people, especially in non-food related stuff like how the place looks. And some expects he brings in are just suspect. Like the "Bacardi taste expert", which just smells like "SPONSOR PLUG!" |
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Post by Sephiroth on Aug 19, 2012 18:53:18 GMT -5
Jon and all the experts he bring in have utterly obnoxious, arrogant personalities. But usually the kind of advice they offer is solid; fact is a bar is not going to be in business for long if their drinks and food are trash. And you would like to think that simple things like keeping a bar clean and up to health-code would be a given, but based on some of the places they sometimes show it obviously is not, at least not to some people. With stuff like that, it kind of makes you want to yell a little yourself.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2012 20:00:54 GMT -5
(Warning: Long & Very Angry Read) In addition, you have his "experts", the guy he bring in that are honestly worse than he is. They always try to put themselves out as experts, wearing suit and ties or formal chef gear with big titles and having degrees in mixology or whatever crap, but it doesn't overlook the fact they're bartenders & cooks. ! Guy Fieri makes eight million dollars and I know you're probably saying "But he has a tv show" but then there's Todd English , have you ever heard of this guy before today? seen him on tv? No well he makes a eleven million dollars a year. Todd English? He's been on tv plenty of times. He was an Iron Chef in the original, original American version pilot that featured William Shatner as the Chairmen. He also has commercials, shows up on ABC talk shows a bunch, and has been featured several times on Food Network and on Bravo's Top Chef. |
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Post by Red Impact on Aug 19, 2012 20:18:21 GMT -5
He brought in Spike Mendelson once, who was a Top Chef guy. So it's not like he's bringing on diner cooks.
That said, most rescue shows are pretty terrible as far as actual advice goes. I'd be surprised if 25% of any of the businesses featured in these shows stays in business long after the show's initial buzz dies. There's a reason the owners were in dire straights to begin with, and that's not going to go away because a hothead in a suit yelled at them for a couple of days.
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Post by TheShowStoppin Classic JBHENDU on Aug 19, 2012 20:31:08 GMT -5
Personally I love this show! Bar Rescue makes me want to buy a bar, ruin it, and call him in to help me make it awesome!
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Post by TheShowStoppin Classic JBHENDU on Aug 19, 2012 20:31:53 GMT -5
(Warning: Long & Very Angry Read) And that Jon Taffer guy is a goddamn con artist. I ranted on this show a few weeks back on my twitter, and I wanted to be done with it then, but thanks to Spike TV constantly showing commercials and marathons for it in between shows I do watch on there, I need to go on a rant on this in a way 140 characters can't cover. whats wrong bro? Do you work at that lameass Pirate bar? I hate this stupid ass show. I hate everyone on this stupid show. The host, Jon Taffer, is suppose to be this expert in managing and making bars successful. If what he does on the show is his expertise, I'm a goddamn expert, too. He wows people with "clean up the kitchen ofter" , "Make sure you keep your orders organized", "limit your menu to items you can do", and a bunch of other stuff that always seems to amaze the people he is advising to. He just does it and yells to make him be like every big reality show asshole. He's also constantly over thinking s*** and doing stupid moves as well. Best example is when he changes the name of the bar. He tends to stick with some variation of the name already in place. When he has to think of a new name, though, he's horrible at it. Take the Pirate Bar episode. Yeah, the original name with Zs and kewl lettering was tacky, but to rename the place "Corporate Bar and Grill" cause the buildings around it were corporate companies?! That is honestly stupider! Yet, the owners were the bad guys cause they hated it?! Also, he wastes money on complicated things. Again, Pirate Bar episode, he wants a small bar in the waiting area so not only can people drink while waiting, but people know the place is a bar. Fair enough. Just get a nice mini bar, costs between $300-500, get an employee to pour drinks and done. This son of a bitch decides ROBOT! and gets not 1, but 2 automated drink mixers and robot bartenders for the room. This isn't the last of it by a long shot. The worst thing is, the show is about the bar opening the books so they know what is lost, but he never considers their basic income and format when getting these big extravagant things for some small bar that doesn't need it. In addition, you have his "experts", the guy he bring in that are honestly worse than he is. They always try to put themselves out as experts, wearing suit and ties or formal chef gear with big titles and having degrees in mixology or whatever crap, but it doesn't overlook the fact they're bartenders & cooks. I'd also believe that 20 years of experience actually did something to help, but not when all they do is say basic kitchen tips like getting fresh foods, sorting out the ingredients and once again CLEAN YOU F'N KITCHEN! All you chefs and expert mixologists on this show, i'm sorry to tell you, but you just wasted your life. Not to say the owners are victims in all this,cause they are honestly the picture of stupidity. They honestly can't see the many, many errors in their management and execution of the job, but know that something is wrong?! And always, ALWAYS, when confronted by how badly something is, they act all surprised or either have this act of "well, if no one cares, why should I"? Pretty much every episode has to deal with bad management, and employees saying how they exploit it. Did you really need some balding douche getting the buisiness money/ownership of the bar to know that?! But the worst, THE VERY WORST THING, that I hate about this show is that it's all because the people in charge CALL HIM IN! They aren't forced to hire the guy, he gets brought in because they don't know what to do. You know what? What the f*** did you try before this? Did you honestly not think to wonder some of this blatantly obvious s***?! HOW THE HELL DID THESE PEOPLE LAST THIS LONG TO BE HAVE SOME SUCCESS AT SOME POINT?! HOW?!?!?!?!?!!? Seriously, F*** THIS SHOW! F*** THE HOST! F*** THE EXPERTS ! F*** THE OWNERS! F*** BAR RESCUE! Show Auction Hunters or American Digger or whatever damn reality shows they got instead of this piece of utter s***! |
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Post by tigermaskxxxvii on Aug 19, 2012 21:03:17 GMT -5
Personally I love this show! Bar Rescue makes me want to buy a bar, ruin it, and call him in to help me make it awesome! I'm sure all the renovations are on the dimes of Spike TV and the companies who provide "promotional consideration" so why the hell not? I for the most part like the show even if the host does come off as pretty brash, for the most part I like the improvements he makes. The only one I didn't like was the pirate bar into "The Corporate Bar & Grille", too drastic of a change. Is it me or does Jon Taffer kind of remind anyone else of Paul Heyman? |
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Post by Michael Coello on Aug 19, 2012 22:49:43 GMT -5
whats wrong bro? Do you work at that lameass Pirate bar? No, that was just the episode that made me hate the whole show. Plus, I'm pretty sure that thing's on the other side of the country. Hell, the worst part of that for me was the one waiter who they were trying to train to be a server, and they kept making fun of his voice cause they thought it was sounding too much like a pirate, and I was just thinking during that "That's his actual voice! Stop being such a bitch and let the man speak!" |
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Post by Toxik916 on Aug 19, 2012 23:11:59 GMT -5
My problem with this show is that it takes places with distinct character and charm and turns them into "trendy" cookie cutter clones of each other. Practically all of his bars look the same just with different names and different coats of paint. I hate these modern boutique bars that are all roughly the same. I'd rather go to an old dive with it's own unique identity where there's a fun crowd and people aren't just there because it's the cool new spot.
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Post by Back to being Cenanuff on Aug 20, 2012 10:08:30 GMT -5
I like watching him bug his eyes out and flare his nostrils.
When the manager/owner doesn't have the heart for running the place anymore, it goes all to hell, and in order to get their passion for it back, they need to be yelled at. That's what consultants are for...like Jon. The vast majority of these bars are places the owners opened up because they liked the idea of owning a bar, but didn't know the first thing about the business aspects of it.
Say what you will about his attitude, or his experts, but he does his research, and puts the bar in a position to profit again based on the type of people that would come to it. The experts? They offer training that the cooks and bartenders probably never had, because there is no corporate structure to offer this kind of training, and they simplify the menu into things that can be done quickly and profitably. Their attitudes? Drama for the show. You have to break people out of their bad habits before they can develop good habits. I know this from working in food for many years, and having to break bad habits.
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Post by Sephiroth on Aug 20, 2012 11:09:48 GMT -5
Personally I love this show! Bar Rescue makes me want to buy a bar, ruin it, and call him in to help me make it awesome! I'm sure all the renovations are on the dimes of Spike TV and the companies who provide "promotional consideration" so why the hell not? I for the most part like the show even if the host does come off as pretty brash, for the most part I like the improvements he makes. The only one I didn't like was the pirate bar into "The Corporate Bar & Grille", too drastic of a change. Is it me or does Jon Taffer kind of remind anyone else of Paul Heyman? Sounds exactly like him, especially when he starts shouting his head off. |
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Post by amaron on Aug 20, 2012 11:46:39 GMT -5
I have an issue with most of these 'rescue' shows, especially since most of them don't work in the long term.
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Post by The Portable Stove on Sept 16, 2012 17:21:20 GMT -5
I know I'm necroposting, but I wanted to see if there was a thread on this before I posted this exact same thing. Holy shit, can this guy be any more loud and obnoxious? It's like he's attempting to be Gordon Ramsay with the unrelenting anger, only without any charisma whatsoever and more obscenities.
I feel like I'm watching Scared Straight with bar owners instead of kids.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2012 20:47:50 GMT -5
One of my top reality show moments is from this show honestly
There was a bar in Florida, and as they were finally getting their act together, well....
Manager in Interview: I hope nothing else goes wrong....what the hell?
*camera turns around and sees fist fight as someone shouts "HE HAS A GUN!"*
Fake or Not, that's funny as hell
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Post by Toxik916 on Sept 16, 2012 20:58:53 GMT -5
One of my top reality show moments is from this show honestly There was a bar in Florida, and as they were finally getting their act together, well.... Manager in Interview: I hope nothing else goes wrong....what the hell? *camera turns around and sees fist fight as someone shouts "HE HAS A GUN!"* Fake or Not, that's funny as hell That was hella funny, I felt bad though because the owners looked like cool dudes. |
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Post by Mattification on Sept 17, 2012 6:43:36 GMT -5
This thread reminds me of when I worked in a bar. They hired 2 'consultant' guys to come in who would apparently make us all great, teach us how to make cocktails etc and get the business running more successfully.
Turns out they were a pair of charlatans. They followed and observed us for a whole 2 weeks before giving us the most generic advice you could imagine. Their advice for me was to be all fake and OTT when serving customers as apparently they thought my usual 'Alright pal?' was too understated.
They also revamped the management's approach to things by looking at their to-do list. Instead of writing things down and then scoring them out when you'd got round to doing them, you'd draw a triangle beside them and fill it in when you got round to doing the things on the list.
It was such a great money-for-nothing scheme that one of the owners of the bar immediately sold his shares and took it up for himself. The whole thing still gets me angry 10 years later.
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Post by Evil Homer on Sept 17, 2012 10:26:55 GMT -5
I like how the bars look transformed , but that mostly cause i like before and after type of show's (cars, houses, business, or even people). however , this show screams fake. I am certain no one will neglect their kitchen- as much as they show- the health dept. would have shut down every single bar on this show. Also there food and drinks cannot be that bad, the people who test the place beforehand always come out disgusted EVERY SINGLE BAR. Also the episode where he sent 3 people to Ireland , to learn how to properly pour a guiness-was absolute BS, why would they send a cook and waiterss to learn how to pour a guiness, it would have been for the bartenders. I know it has been said the episode with the pirates, that was pathetic. Corporate bar , really ? could'nt come up with anything more imaginative than that
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