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Post by Brandon Walsh is Insane. on Oct 29, 2011 4:09:34 GMT -5
Just watching some Hart Foundation v Rockers on the new WWE DVD, and it got me to thinking about SummerSlam and how Power and Glory got to injure Shawn and steal a win from the Rockers... and that made me realize that Herc and Jerk were only around for a few months before being dissolved with both ending up in WCW some time later.
My question is, why?
I don't understand why they were shot back down the ladder so quickly, and then jobbed out to the debuting LOD at WrestleMania.
Any theories?
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Post by mrmulluk on Oct 29, 2011 4:44:35 GMT -5
I don't have the answer, but I hope someone does. Even as a kid and they beat up my favourite team (Rockers) I still couldn't help but like P&G. Powerplex > Doomsday device. There, I said it.
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Post by AnActualBear on Oct 29, 2011 4:44:40 GMT -5
Because Paul Roma
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Post by mrjl on Oct 29, 2011 6:19:53 GMT -5
Just watching some Hart Foundation v Rockers on the new WWE DVD, and it got me to thinking about SummerSlam and how Power and Glory got to injure Shawn and steal a win from the Rockers... and that made me realize that Herc and Jerk were only around for a few months before being dissolved with both ending up in WCW some time later. My question is, why? I don't understand why they were shot back down the ladder so quickly, and then jobbed out to the debuting LOD at WrestleMania. Any theories? LOD had already been around since before the previous Summerslam and had participated at Survivor Series 90 and Royal Rumble 91 |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2011 8:38:27 GMT -5
I'm guessing that it had something to do with the team consisting of Paul Roma and Hercules.
Somewhat unrelated, but does anyone else remember when Hercules started wearing those tiny trunks where his ass was always hanging out. Not a good look.
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Post by wildojinx on Oct 29, 2011 9:11:28 GMT -5
There were a glut of tag teams at the time, and they simply got lost in the shuffle. Ive heard a theory that if the rockers title win had been legit, that P&G would be next in line to win the belts, but i dont know how true that was. I will say that its the best thing that both roma and hercules were involved in (in fact, i think it helped briefly save their careers).
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Post by lovingway on Oct 29, 2011 12:18:09 GMT -5
I don't have the answer, but I hope someone does. Even as a kid and they beat up my favourite team (Rockers) I still couldn't help but like P&G. Powerplex > Doomsday device. There, I said it. I loved that finisher as well |
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Post by Crusty Ruffles on Oct 29, 2011 13:01:18 GMT -5
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Post by Handsome Halfbreed on Oct 29, 2011 15:04:17 GMT -5
During that time you had the Hart Foundation, Demolition, Legion of Doom, Rockers, Rythem and Blues, Orient Express, Beverly Bros., Natural Disasters, Nasty Boys, Bushwackers... they got lost in the shuffle. Also having Slick as your manager was the kiss of death.
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Post by lovingway on Oct 29, 2011 17:14:30 GMT -5
Might have also been wanting to phase out the really muscular guys due to the steroid trial as well
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Post by Jimmy on Oct 29, 2011 18:15:01 GMT -5
Power and Glory were a great example of two guys who basically sucked on their own but were awesome as a tag team. Definitely will echo the love for the PowerPlex, I loved how Lo Down brought it back in 2000 and can't believe no team has swiped it since.
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Post by johnnyk9 on Oct 29, 2011 19:29:48 GMT -5
From what I heard Paul Roma's backstage attitude stinks, but other then that I'm surprised Vince de-pushed them so suddenly, I would've preferred them over The Nasty Boys for a decent tag title run, but hey that's me, then Roma getting fired 2 months after Summer Slam 91 had to do with Vince and the steriods, I really liked the team and thought they could've went somewhere but it wasn't ment to be, and oh yeah the reason they jobbed to LOD so fast at WM 7 was because of Roma injuryering his arm prior to Mania just thought I'd toss that in.
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Post by jason1980s on Oct 29, 2011 20:00:53 GMT -5
Triple H called Roma "the job guy from wwe" on the Horsemen DVD and I think he's right. Mayne not Horowitz jobber but a loser on the card anyway. He started as enhancement talent around 1985 then got in the team with Powers in 1987 and I don't recall them winning much when they first started so a song and a win (not even the pinning team) at Survivor Series wasn't going to do much for them and they got lower and lower before breaking up around 1989. Roma got some wins over Brawler but putting him and Hercules together was probably just to reward them from a number of years of service. It was a favor, I think. Hercules had also been on a losing streak for some time, his best was well behind him with a small post-Heenan Family feud. Once Wrestlemania 7 ended they went lower and lower, why they were kept around as a team until Summerslam time is beyond me. They weren't even in a feud with anyone nor were Tornado or Dragon and Bulldog v. Warlord had been done enough but at least they were feuding. Hercules got lucky in a spot on Survivor Series 91 as a replacement and was kept on for Royal Rumble to make 30 men but he was done by that point as the loss to Sid should have indicated at MSG. Roma should have went with the flow in 1995 at Superbrawl and took the loss fairly to Alex Wright as Jean Paul Levesque did. Roma was lucky to get into a team with such a great star in Mr. Wonderful. He's probably more well known for negativity in the quick loss to LOD (which should have happened whether he was injured or not), being one of the worst Horsemen and trying to no selling for Alex Wright.
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Post by The Varsity Club on Oct 30, 2011 3:15:02 GMT -5
Just watching some Hart Foundation v Rockers on the new WWE DVD, and it got me to thinking about SummerSlam and how Power and Glory got to injure Shawn and steal a win from the Rockers... and that made me realize that Herc and Jerk were only around for a few months before being dissolved with both ending up in WCW some time later. My question is, why? I don't understand why they were shot back down the ladder so quickly, and then jobbed out to the debuting LOD at WrestleMania. Any theories? i dont know but if they had actually been called herk and jerk they would of been champs! good one ;D I dont recall Herc in wcw....what did he do there? Lastly, didnt Power and Glory start out as faces and turned heel at some point. Forgot why but i remember it. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2011 6:53:43 GMT -5
Just watching some Hart Foundation v Rockers on the new WWE DVD, and it got me to thinking about SummerSlam and how Power and Glory got to injure Shawn and steal a win from the Rockers... and that made me realize that Herc and Jerk were only around for a few months before being dissolved with both ending up in WCW some time later. My question is, why? I don't understand why they were shot back down the ladder so quickly, and then jobbed out to the debuting LOD at WrestleMania. Any theories? i dont know but if they had actually been called herk and jerk they would of been champs! good one ;D I dont recall Herc in wcw....what did he do there? Lastly, didnt Power and Glory start out as faces and turned heel at some point. Forgot why but i remember it. Herc in WCW was either Super Invader or BlackBlood, I can't remember which, they both sucked anyways though. |
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Post by Madagascar Fred on Oct 30, 2011 9:39:40 GMT -5
yeah Herc was Super Invader (manager: Harley Race), a more-than-forgettable run with slight success though (wins at GAB 92 and one Clash in a 8man tag match)...a whopping 4 month run in 1992 WCW
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Post by walsh7637 on Oct 30, 2011 15:45:58 GMT -5
Roma and Herc (both faces before they started teaming) turned on the Rockers in mid '90. I recall some sorta "tempting" on the part of Herc to get Roma to turn on the Rockers, though. And then Slick entered the mix very early on, and I completely blank on how that happened.
P&G basically went bust when the LOD signed on. Their arrival really did a number on the tag ranks - Demolition was quickly dethroned (and turned heel), most other teams kinda became jobbers. By the time P&G cost LOD that WM7 tag title match (which thusly elevated the newcomer Nasty Boyz to stardom), they weren't a real threat - though the 20 second match at WM& probably wasn't expected by even the doubters. And that did zip to help them after WM7. So much so that Roma just gave up and left for WCW after Summerslam '91.
Hercules - who was enhancement talent before P&G - stuck around, but he was again just enhancement talent and eventually he got bored and left in early '92 when he got a guaranteed contract with WCW; he drifted through his final WWF dates (that MSG match against Sid, and the battle royal afterwards, were his last WWF matches).
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