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Post by AdamAFL was sooooo wrong on Oct 6, 2011 22:34:42 GMT -5
So I was watching Rising Above 2008 (or 09, whichever you prefer to call it) again yesterday (amazing show). And with Lacey walking away from Austin at the end, I was just wondering if they ever explained why she did that. Did they just pass it off as she was just using Aries to get revenge on Jimmy? Or was there another reason she walked away. I don't remember her making an appearance at all in RoH since (I have a terrible memory though so I may be wrong). It may seem like a pretty random question, but I just thought I'd ask if anyone here with a better memory than myself could answer it.
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Post by Andrew is Good on Oct 6, 2011 23:08:30 GMT -5
I don't remember where that went exactly, haha, but I do remember Gabe talking about wanting to have the finish of that match go a little differently.
After Aries and Jacobs beat the crap out of each other, and they were laying pretty much dead, Lacey couldn't handle it anymore. So she would have said, if you love me, you'll quit. Then Jacobs grabs the mic and says, "I Quit". Gabe felt that it would have been a screwy finish for the feud ending match, but the artist inside of him wanted to do that, and I personally would have loved it, though fans may have crapped all over it.
You hear about the CM Punks, Samoa Joes, the Brian Danielsons, but the guy who really got me into ROH originally was Jimmy Jacobs and that angle with Lacey. I had watched a few shows and matches here and there, but that really drove it home for me. And actually, when Jacobs left, I started to not watch it as frequently. I'm so glad he's back now though.
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Post by Jazzman on Oct 6, 2011 23:15:03 GMT -5
Well, to get to wholoe of the question Lacey hasn't been in RoH since that I Quit Match. You need to remember that in the beginning of 2008 the Age of the Fall was actively recruiting Austin Aries, which eventually led to an implied relationship between the two when Lacey said she'd convince Austin to be in Age of The Fall. Then Lacey left Jimmy, which was the night of the infamous Cry Jimmy Cry segment, setting up the feud between Austin and Jimmy.
Now, Jimmy threatened to attack Lacey, and appeared to with his spike, forcing her out of RoH in the summer of 2008, when she actually quit wrestling to return to school. She came back as Aries' mystery second in that I Quit match for whatever reason (personally I thought it was to get revenge on Jimmy)
Hopefully that answers your question
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Post by Starshine on Oct 7, 2011 0:06:55 GMT -5
My bigger question regarding that stupid angle was what Jacobs did to Lacey that was so [dramatic pause] "unspeakable."
She looked fine in November.
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Post by Chuckie Finster on Oct 7, 2011 0:10:01 GMT -5
It all centers around the fact that Lacey has an evil vagina. She had sex with Jimmy and he turned evil. She had sex with Aries and he turned into a whiny bitch.
And no, she never came back after that and it was never answered why she walked out on Aries. I think it was because she was a bitch.
That whole feud could have been something great, but it was the perfect example of how burned out Gabe was that he booked it ass-backwards.
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Post by AdamAFL was sooooo wrong on Oct 7, 2011 10:01:35 GMT -5
Well, to get to wholoe of the question Lacey hasn't been in RoH since that I Quit Match. You need to remember that in the beginning of 2008 the Age of the Fall was actively recruiting Austin Aries, which eventually led to an implied relationship between the two when Lacey said she'd convince Austin to be in Age of The Fall. Then Lacey left Jimmy, which was the night of the infamous Cry Jimmy Cry segment, setting up the feud between Austin and Jimmy. Now, Jimmy threatened to attack Lacey, and appeared to with his spike, forcing her out of RoH in the summer of 2008, when she actually quit wrestling to return to school. She came back as Aries' mystery second in that I Quit match for whatever reason (personally I thought it was to get revenge on Jimmy) Hopefully that answers your question I know the backstory to it, I was just wondering if I'd missed them explaining why she walked away on any following shows... which it looks like they didn't. My bigger question regarding that stupid angle was what Jacobs did to Lacey that was so [dramatic pause] "unspeakable." She looked fine in November. I liked the angle . And I don't think they ever told us what, but Jimmy was treating Lacey pretty badly from the debut of AOTF. Then, during the period prior to her return for this match the last thing we'd seen of her was AOTF abducting her in a parking lot. It all centers around the fact that Lacey has an evil vagina. She had sex with Jimmy and he turned evil. She had sex with Aries and he turned into a whiny bitch. And no, she never came back after that and it was never answered why she walked out on Aries. I think it was because she was a bitch. That whole feud could have been something great, but it was the perfect example of how burned out Gabe was that he booked it ass-backwards. Damn it all you've solved it! Again I liked the angle, and since Lacey wanted out of wrestling at the time, I don't know how he could've booked it much differently (the final stages of it that is). What I didn't like was Aries and Jacobs teaming up to beat Tyler Black up just a few months after... it seemed too soon after a feud as brutal as the one they had.
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Post by lildude8218 on Oct 7, 2011 14:00:52 GMT -5
My bigger question regarding that stupid angle was what Jacobs did to Lacey that was so [dramatic pause] "unspeakable." She looked fine in November. he bludgeoned her to near death with a board filled with nails. as we've learned, you can come back from that in a short period of time and look fine.
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Post by The Scuba Guy on Oct 7, 2011 15:47:04 GMT -5
I don't remember where that went exactly, haha, but I do remember Gabe talking about wanting to have the finish of that match go a little differently. After Aries and Jacobs beat the crap out of each other, and they were laying pretty much dead, Lacey couldn't handle it anymore. So she would have said, if you love me, you'll quit. Then Jacobs grabs the mic and says, "I Quit". Gabe felt that it would have been a screwy finish for the feud ending match, but the artist inside of him wanted to do that, and I personally would have loved it, though fans may have crapped all over it. You hear about the CM Punks, Samoa Joes, the Brian Danielsons, but the guy who really got me into ROH originally was Jimmy Jacobs and that angle with Lacey. I had watched a few shows and matches here and there, but that really drove it home for me. And actually, when Jacobs left, I started to not watch it as frequently. I'm so glad he's back now though. That woulda been a perfect ending to that. Too bad she left and we couldn't see that come to fruition,
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Post by Chuck Conry on Oct 9, 2011 17:20:26 GMT -5
The whole thing got messed up when Gabe was fired as booker. I'm not sure what Jimmy did originally, but I think the idea was supposed to have been he was going to say he'd spike himself if she didn't leave ROH (which we were to find out later). Now I'm not sure if this is correct or not, it's been forever and it's all fuzzy. I can't even recall what they said he did at the end. Perhaps they still went with the idea he spiked her, I dunno.
But I will say this. Gabe was losing a lot of his booking mojo near the end, but him and Jimmy Jacobs were always gold. THAT was what got me into ROH. It was like Paul E and Raven in ECW. And while Gabe being removed wasn't a horrible idea at the time, I do wish we had got the Gabe ending to that I Quit match.
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Post by mjolnir on Oct 9, 2011 18:17:52 GMT -5
Yeah, Jacobs revealed he wanted to eventually expose what he did. Which was threaten to kill himself unless Lacey left wrestling. Her, still having some feelings for him, obeyed and left.
It was going to play into the whole ending Jacobs and Gabe originally wanted to do to the I Quit match. Shame too as it is a brilliant finish. That highlights Jacobs as a misguided fool in love and Aries as the dick he was throughout the story.
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Post by ricardob on Oct 9, 2011 22:06:46 GMT -5
Damn, I miss Lacey.
That is all.
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