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Post by El Cokehead del Knife Fight on Dec 21, 2011 7:32:34 GMT -5
As the title states, which stable do you think was the most talented from top to bottom in wrestling history?
I'm split between the Four Horsemen and Kaientai DX. Everyone knows how great the majority of the members from the Horsemen were (Paul Roma and Mongo kinda dragging the stable down) while Kaientai DX had some great talent in the group.
Let's just take a look at the five corse members;
Dick Togo- Ridiculously strong for a man his height and possessed great agility. Had a great power/technique team with Mens Teioh and was in a number of other stables over the years.
Mens Teioh- ended up becoming a major player for BJPW and had a fair amount of success throughout Japan.
Shiryu- Kaz Hiyashi was another great wrestler who ended up carving a hell of a career for himself.
Taka Michinoku- The only thing that needs to be said about TAKA was that he was incredible.
Shoichi Funaki- Wrestled for WWE for quite some time and was never really used as well as he could. Still a great wrestler that doesn't get the recognition that he deserves.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Dec 21, 2011 7:40:09 GMT -5
The Dangerous Alliance: Rick Rude, Arn Anderson, Bobby Eaton, Steve Austin, Larry Zbyszko, and Madusa with Paul E. Dangerously as the brains. At one point held all the titles in WCW except the World title. The stable was filled with proven veterans who worked as a unit for the greater good.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Dec 21, 2011 7:56:33 GMT -5
The Dangerous Alliance was an awesome group, Austin, Rude, Double A, Heyman and more in one group is just an insane gathering of talent on the mic and in the ring.
I'm going to give an honourable mention to the Latino World Order, Eddie Guerrero, Rey, Juventud, Psychosis, La Parka, El Dandy and other talented Luchadores.
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Post by austinariesfan88 on Dec 21, 2011 9:47:23 GMT -5
The Hart Foundation, Latino World Order, Team ECK(Edge,Christian, Kurt Angle) Generation Next in ROH, Fortune in TNA
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Post by skulldouggory on Dec 21, 2011 9:55:20 GMT -5
Hart Foundation including Pillman but not Neidhart.
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Dec 21, 2011 10:05:12 GMT -5
Are we talking singular stable, or multiple incarnations? Because if so, the Four Horsemen overall obviously deserve consideration. Flair, The Andersons, Tully Blanchard, Barry Windham, Chris Benoit, Dean Malenko, Brian Pillman, Sting, Jeff Jarrett, and Curt Hennig. Granted, there were some duds(Paul Roma, Mongo), but throughout all incarnations, it HAS to be the Horsemen.
But, if we're going for just one single instance of a stable, yeah, Dangerous Alliance all the way.
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Post by "Playboy" Don Douglas on Dec 21, 2011 13:15:34 GMT -5
I'm going with the Horsemen, either the original or Windham version. All four guys could go, all could give you a good promo (more so with Ole than with Barry) and JJ Dillon was a damn fine manager.
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Post by The Ichi on Dec 21, 2011 13:46:56 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2011 13:50:48 GMT -5
I was going to say the Horsemen, but then the LWO was brought up.
Seriously, Eddie, Chavo, Psicosis, La Parka, Juventud, Rey (even though it was against his will).
So much awesomeness it's ridiculous.
I would also like to give honorable (pun intended) mention to Generation Next. Austin Aries, Roderick Strong, Evan Bourne, and Jack Evans, and for a time Alex Shelly too.
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Post by Reflecto on Dec 21, 2011 15:20:56 GMT -5
Throwing the "kayfabe" reasoning in, so: Evolution. The fact that Evolution's the only stable in history where every member held a world title has to put them in the running for this statement.
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Post by repomanfan on Dec 21, 2011 15:49:00 GMT -5
The second version of the Horseman. Flair/Arn/Tully/Windham and JJ. Just about every ingredient that made a pro wrestler great was in that group. Promos, confidence, showmanship, psychology, in ring ability, believability factor etc...etc... etc... it was all there.
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Post by Slingshot Suplay on Dec 21, 2011 15:50:48 GMT -5
Horsemen, because they dominated for the most part throughout their existence and held most of the company's titles. Original: Flair (world), Tully (U.S. title) Ole (Tag title) Arn (T.V., Tag title) Second : Flair (world), Luger (U.S.), Arn (Tag) Ole (tag) Third : Flair (World), Windham (U.S.), Arn and Tully (Tag titles) 4th - Flair (world) 5th - Flair (WCW Champ) Anderson and Roma (Tag) 6th - Flair(World, U.S.), Pillman, Anderson, Benoit - none 7th - Flair , Anderson, Mongo (U.S.), Benoit, Jarrett (U.S.) 8th - Flair, Mongo, Benoit and Malenko(tag titles)
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Post by ritt works hard fo da chickens on Dec 21, 2011 18:15:36 GMT -5
Most talent in one stable? NWO. And I can't even think it's close. However that made them a terrible stable. People who SHOULD have been feuding throughout the upper main event were all stuck in the same group patting each other on the back and occasionally spray painting some schmuck. Hogan, Hall, Nash, Savage, Luger, Hennig, Dusty Rhodes, Rude, Steiner, that's a lot of wrestling history.
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Post by juvijuiceisloose on Dec 21, 2011 18:25:17 GMT -5
I was going to say the Horsemen, but then the LWO was brought up. Seriously, Eddie, Chavo, Psicosis, La Parka, Juventud, Rey (even though it was against his will). So much awesomeness it's ridiculous. Don't forget about the most awesome member of the LWO... Another awesomely talented group was the Revolution/Radicalz.
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Post by repomanfan on Dec 21, 2011 18:38:58 GMT -5
Most talent in one stable? NWO. And I can't even think it's close. However that made them a terrible stable. People who SHOULD have been feuding throughout the upper main event were all stuck in the same group patting each other on the back and occasionally spray painting some schmuck. Hogan, Hall, Nash, Savage, Luger, Hennig, Dusty Rhodes, Rude, Steiner, that's a lot of wrestling history. Let's be fair. The only true members of the NWO are Hogan Nash and Hall and maybe Waltman. Same thing for the Horseman; anything after Windham, Flair, Ole, JJ, Arn and Tully simply isn't the same, and just a cheap rip off.
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Post by Djm Doesn't Find You Funny on Dec 21, 2011 18:48:14 GMT -5
As the title states, which stable do you think was the most talented from top to bottom in wrestling history? I'm split between the Four Horsemen and Kaientai DX. Everyone knows how great the majority of the members from the Horsemen were (Paul Roma and Mongo kinda dragging the stable down) while Kaientai DX had some great talent in the group. Let's just take a look at the five corse members; Dick Togo- Ridiculously strong for a man his height and possessed great agility. Had a great power/technique team with Mens Teioh and was in a number of other stables over the years. Mens Teioh- ended up becoming a major player for BJPW and had a fair amount of success throughout Japan. Shiryu- Kaz Hiyashi was another great wrestler who ended up carving a hell of a career for himself. Taka Michinoku- The only thing that needs to be said about TAKA was that he was incredible. Shoichi Funaki- Wrestled for WWE for quite some time and was never really used as well as he could. Still a great wrestler that doesn't get the recognition that he deserves. Both TAKA and Kaz are still awesome, and Kaz is better than ever.
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Post by sawcesome on Dec 21, 2011 22:28:23 GMT -5
Fortune (or Fourtune--however they like it), LWO, Generation Next, House of Truth, and any of the ones I run across watching my Dragon Gate DVDs.
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Post by Jazzman on Dec 22, 2011 1:16:54 GMT -5
Throwing the "kayfabe" reasoning in, so: Evolution. The fact that Evolution's the only stable in history where every member held a world title has to put them in the running for this statement. Not totally true since my pick also completed the feat. I'm all in for Team RECK as being the most talented stable. True, while they may not have lasted as long as most of these other stables it's hard to deny Kurt, Edge, Christian and Rhyno as one of the best collections of talent ever. Honorable mentions to The Radicalz, The Dangerous Alliance, and my sleeper pick, The Un-Americans
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Post by froggyfrog on Dec 22, 2011 2:25:00 GMT -5
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Post by mjolnir on Dec 22, 2011 2:50:46 GMT -5
The Embassy at it's height was about as stacked of a stable as one can get in the current indy scene.
Jimmy Rave Alex Shelley Abyss Spanky Puma & Petey Williams as hired guns Daizee Haze Prince Nana
That is an amazing stable.
Another honorable mention goes to DP Associates, who don't get alot of talk. At one point they had CM Punk, Samoa Joe, Bryan Danielson, Delirious, and several other big names in the group.
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