saintpat
El Dandy
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Post by saintpat on Oct 7, 2012 17:08:42 GMT -5
Promos aside, we know a heel is a heel because he takes shortcuts and resorts to illegal means to win -- pulling tights, foreign objects, Andre strangling his opponent with the singlet strap under the headlock, etc.
I can think of tons of examples of faces who used heel tactics -- HHH with the sledghammer, for instance -- but what about heels who didn't cheat.
Refresh my memory, but when Bret Hart was a heel in the U.S. and a face internationally, he didn't wrestle any differently when he crossed the borders, did he? I mean, he wrestled as a face but his character was able to get over as a heel in the U.S. because of his promos rather than for how he wrestled.
Are there other instances of heels who didn't resort to heel tactics in the ring?
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Post by YiHammer on Oct 7, 2012 17:27:59 GMT -5
Kevin Steen
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Post by ________ has left the building on Oct 7, 2012 17:33:34 GMT -5
First guy I think of when talking about clean wrestling.  The Filthy Animals in WCW wrestled like faces even when they were heels. Lance Storm rarely cheated in matches. Matter of fact, he won more matches clean than most faces in WCW & ECW . |
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Post by TGM on Oct 7, 2012 19:57:56 GMT -5
I don't recall Kevin Nash changing anything about his wrestling style, according to his current alignment.
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Post by Starshine on Oct 7, 2012 20:13:59 GMT -5
AJ Styles.
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saintpat
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Post by saintpat on Oct 7, 2012 20:17:04 GMT -5
I'm not sure heel Orton's wrestling style is really different than face Orton, now that I think of it.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Oct 7, 2012 20:19:01 GMT -5
Austin Aries, AJ Styles, Samoa Joe.
All of those guys wrestle the same way wheter they are a face or a heel.
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Post by notasmark on Oct 8, 2012 2:38:22 GMT -5
Most indy darlings won't change.
The stupidest thing in pro wrestling is when someone turns heel and still does high risk moves which the audience pops for, A high flying babyface turning heel should wrestle a mat style with very little high risk moves.
Like when Billy Kidman refused to do the Shooting Star Press years and years ago. He got heat because the fans wanted it and when he wouldn't do it, they got mad.
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Post by thelonewolf527 on Oct 8, 2012 3:57:24 GMT -5
I'm not sure heel Orton's wrestling style is really different than face Orton, now that I think of it. Orton's a better wrestler as a babyface I'm not sure how that works but his in ring stuff in 2011 vs his stuff in 2009 is vastly superior |
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Oct 8, 2012 4:49:15 GMT -5
Most indy darlings won't change. The stupidest thing in pro wrestling is when someone turns heel and still does high risk moves which the audience pops for, A high flying babyface turning heel should wrestle a mat style with very little high risk moves. Like when Billy Kidman refused to do the Shooting Star Press years and years ago. He got heat because the fans wanted it and when he wouldn't do it, they got mad. Well after the Chavo botch, they pushed the Shooting Star Press as an "OH NO!!! THE SHOOTING STAR PRESS IS LETHAL AND DANGEROUS AND ENDS CAREERZ OMG" move |
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Post by norsisclouds on Oct 8, 2012 12:58:29 GMT -5
For women, Trish Stratus and Victoria never changed. Same finishers, same spots/moves etc... but I guess with women it isn't such a big deal?
Was Cena ever different as heel? I can't remember.
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Post by rapidfire187 on Oct 8, 2012 18:35:30 GMT -5
I'm not sure heel Orton's wrestling style is really different than face Orton, now that I think of it. Orton's a better wrestler as a babyface I'm not sure how that works but his in ring stuff in 2011 vs his stuff in 2009 is vastly superior Because as a face he has to actually do moves and stuff instead of relying on rest holds and cheating. |
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