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Post by hitch on Oct 9, 2012 15:01:08 GMT -5
WWE must have got heat the from arena too. They would have chastised them for potentially (through their employee) causing a fight scene in the middle of thousands of people in a crowded space. You can guarantee WWE will be at least receiving a strongly worded letter and perhaps a reminder of their health and safety obligations.
Going forward, in an extreme case, it may even affect their ability to book certain arenas unless they can show serious undertakings/sancitions have been taken to ensure that such an occurrence doesn't happen again.
Swinging wildly at someone in the crowd, in a packed arena is far, far too dangerous a situation to joke about and it will be taken VERY seriously both by WWE themselves and the people who run this arena and the other arenas they're currently booked at.
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Post by Tiger Millionaire on Oct 9, 2012 15:01:14 GMT -5
So much stupidity to go around, the douchebag "fan", Punk not keeping his cool, security, the WWE. Let's be honest, this is a scripted show, if you are going to have Punk go through the crowd, have him interact with as few people as possible.
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Post by pepsitwist on Oct 9, 2012 15:01:28 GMT -5
Why are they only talk about the guy in the white shirt? The kid in the Lesnar shirt almost pushed Punk down the stairs. That's way more serious than a few slaps to the back of the head. It looked like Punk pushed that kid afterwards and said something to him. The kid then stopped. He was pretty bad to, though. The kid grabbed him first, Punk shoved back, had a word, the kid shoved him again and almost sent him flying. Can anyone ID this Teyes chap in the video?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2012 15:08:22 GMT -5
Reading that guy's tweets, imagine the things he was saying and how pissed Punk must have been to finally try and swat him. It sucks he hit the wrong guy, but if he had hit the right guy, there'd be zero issue. I still don't blame him at all though, you're in a hostile crowd with people who aren't respecting you as a person, you're just a performer to them, a circus animal to taunt and poke and prod. It was an honest reaction, and a mistake. This is starting to remind me of Charles Barkley accidentally spitting on a little girl, when he was trying to spit on some idiot that was heckling him and talking s*** about his family/teammates the whole game. Fans just have no sense of boundaries sometimes. Doesn't matter if the fan touched and said bad things to him, Punk shouldn't have laid a finger on him. Makes him and the company look bad. I understand this viewpoint, it's rational, but I think it's far too easy to say he shouldn't have done anything, we're so separated from the situation. It was a heat of the moment, rash judgment, we've all had them. He did what he felt he needed to do in the situation, and now he'll have to deal with the consequences. I respect it. He didn't get where he is by always doing the rational, safe thing.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2012 15:09:46 GMT -5
When I first read the story I thought Punk was well within his rights to take a shot and that it was unfortunate he hit the wrong guy because I believe if you lay an aggressive hand on a wrestler well you run that risk
Then I saw the footage and thought Punk was wrong because all I seen was a tap to the head that whilst not justified at all (The guy was a douche) didn't seem to justify the wild swing Punk seemed to take and hit the wrong guy with
Now that the guy has apparently admitted to hitting him in the kidneys then I'll go back to my original thought, shame he hit the wrong guy but justified actions if he had got the right guy
Think the lessons to be learned are, WWE security needs more training and don't hit a wrestling (You'd think the second one wouldn't need saying but here we are)
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Oct 9, 2012 15:10:36 GMT -5
When Teyes was told he was going to get caught, he responded, "no one ever has and no one ever will."
. Wonder if he'll still think that next time he goes back to Arco and finds out he's been banned from the place.
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Post by amaron on Oct 9, 2012 15:11:07 GMT -5
It looked like Punk pushed that kid afterwards and said something to him. The kid then stopped. He was pretty bad to, though. The kid grabbed him first, Punk shoved back, had a word, the kid shoved him again and almost sent him flying. Can anyone ID this Teyes chap in the video? Almost? Punk could have easily wiped out there and actually been hurt. Still don't blame him for his actions.
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Post by Tiger Millionaire on Oct 9, 2012 15:11:33 GMT -5
Doesn't matter if the fan touched and said bad things to him, Punk shouldn't have laid a finger on him. Makes him and the company look bad. I understand this viewpoint, it's rational, but I think it's far too easy to say he shouldn't have done anything, we're so separated from the situation. It was a heat of the moment, rash judgment, we've all had them. He did what he felt he needed to do in the situation, and now he'll have to deal with the consequences. I respect it. He didn't get where he is by always doing the rational, safe thing. It still doesn't change the action. The fact is he swung, was pretty close to hitting a kid, and didn't even hit the right guy. He has to be smarter than that. This isn't a 1970's armory, it's 2010s PG WWE with Linda McMahon running for senate. What other sport or entertainment would have a performer hit someone in the crowd with such a shrug from the rest of the audience that it's not a big deal in this day in age?
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Post by muzzle on Oct 9, 2012 15:11:36 GMT -5
Its one of the funniest things I've ever seen. Punk just decks the guy a millisecond after he puts on, wait for it............his sunglasses. OH COME ON.
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Post by deltarich on Oct 9, 2012 15:12:15 GMT -5
FIRST, LAST & ONLY WARNING: ANYONE THAT FLAMES, BAITS, EGGS ON, OR BREAKS ANY OTHER RULES WILL BE WARNED AND GIVEN A WEEK LONG SUSPENSION (OR BANNING IF AT THAT POINT). WWE STATEMENT ON PUNK-FAN INCIDENT ON RAW by Mike Johnson @ 3:21 PM on 10/9/2012 WWE issued the following statement to TMZ.com regarding the incident with CM Punk in the audience at the close of last night's Raw: "WWE security was unfortunately not in the appropriate place at the time. Given CM Punk's persona as a 'bad guy' fans were naturally heckling him, but unfortunately a few fans began shoving him and one struck him in the kidney and on the back."
"WWE regrets that proper security measures were not in place, and CM Punk apologizes for reacting in the heat of the moment."
Local authorities took a statement from the fan that Punk nailed and noted that initially, he did not appear to have any injuries but later contacted them that he was dealing with pain in one of his knees. Authorities are still investigating the incident.
Note: I am leaving out the link to his Twitter account. No one else post it either please. Get it from a news site or where ever, just not from this board please.
"I was going to let it slide, but then i took an injury to the knee" And that Teyes bloke thinks he won't get caught, then brags about it on Twitter?
I think all we needed to know about that guys intelligence is the fact that he was hitting and shoving a professional wrestler in the kidney's and the back of the head.
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Post by Tiger Millionaire on Oct 9, 2012 15:12:56 GMT -5
When I first read the story I thought Punk was well within his rights to take a shot and that it was unfortunate he hit the wrong guy because I believe if you lay an aggressive hand on a wrestler well you run that risk Then I saw the footage and thought Punk was wrong because all I seen was a tap to the head that whilst not justified at all (The guy was a douche) didn't seem to justify the wild swing Punk seemed to take and hit the wrong guy with Now that the guy has apparently admitted to hitting him in the kidneys then I'll go back to my original thought, shame he hit the wrong guy but justified actions if he had got the right guy Think the lessons to be learned are, WWE security needs more training and don't hit a wrestling (You'd think the second one wouldn't need saying but here we are) And I would counter that if you were somewhere, and someone clocked you in the face twice, and you didn't do anything, you'd be pretty pissed off, wouldn't you?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2012 15:13:25 GMT -5
The kid grabbed him first, Punk shoved back, had a word, the kid shoved him again and almost sent him flying. Can anyone ID this Teyes chap in the video? Almost? Punk could have easily wiped out there and actually been hurt. I wonder where this little douches parents/guardians were because that was a proper shove that as said could easily have sent Punk flying
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Post by hitch on Oct 9, 2012 15:15:37 GMT -5
Almost? Punk could have easily wiped out there and actually been hurt. I wonder where this little douches parents/guardians were because that was a proper shove that as said could easily have sent Punk flying He made the choice to go into the crowd without security. Pushing, shoving is to be expected. Back in the day, crowds would be much nastier than that. The guy should still be ejected but his actions weren't on the same of turning around blindsided and punching some innocent bystander in the face. If he felt someone spit on his right shoulder would the kid being held up behind him have got a smack in the face too? There's no way he could have know the age or gender of the person behind him, he just swung
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2012 15:16:03 GMT -5
The kid grabbed him first, Punk shoved back, had a word, the kid shoved him again and almost sent him flying. Can anyone ID this Teyes chap in the video? Almost? Punk could have easily wiped out there and actually been hurt. Still don't blame him for his actions. To me, that is where it became him looking out for his safety. If a little kid almost pushed him down those steps, an adult who is obviously a jerk and doesn't mind hitting him multiple times could do a lot worse. It was definitely a "back up off me!" move to let everyone know just what's going to happen if you don't give him some space. Sunglasses guy was caught in the cross-fire, and of course how he's got a little knee pain...
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Post by Tiger Millionaire on Oct 9, 2012 15:16:22 GMT -5
Almost? Punk could have easily wiped out there and actually been hurt. I wonder where this little douches parents/guardians were because that was a proper shove that as said could easily have sent Punk flying Yeah, who the hell does that. Like I said, so much stupid to go around.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2012 15:17:13 GMT -5
When I first read the story I thought Punk was well within his rights to take a shot and that it was unfortunate he hit the wrong guy because I believe if you lay an aggressive hand on a wrestler well you run that risk Then I saw the footage and thought Punk was wrong because all I seen was a tap to the head that whilst not justified at all (The guy was a douche) didn't seem to justify the wild swing Punk seemed to take and hit the wrong guy with Now that the guy has apparently admitted to hitting him in the kidneys then I'll go back to my original thought, shame he hit the wrong guy but justified actions if he had got the right guy Think the lessons to be learned are, WWE security needs more training and don't hit a wrestling (You'd think the second one wouldn't need saying but here we are) And I would counter that if you were somewhere, and someone clocked you in the face twice, and you didn't do anything, you'd be pretty pissed off, wouldn't you? Oh yeah definitely I'm not disputing that, did actually mean to include that. The guy who was wrongly accused and attacked does need to be compensated in some fashion to try and make some amends Apologies for not making that clearer
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Post by Tiger Millionaire on Oct 9, 2012 15:17:17 GMT -5
I wonder where this little douches parents/guardians were because that was a proper shove that as said could easily have sent Punk flying He made the choice to go into the crowd without security. Pushing, shoving is to be expected. Back in the day, crowds would be much nastier than that. The guy should still be ejected but his actions weren't on the same of turning around blindsided and punching some innocent bystander in the face. If he felt someone spit on his right shoulder would the kid being held up behind him have got a smack in the face too? There's no way he could have know the age or gender of the person behind him, he just swung WWE has to be smarter then that. Has too.
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Post by deltarich on Oct 9, 2012 15:17:31 GMT -5
The kid grabbed him first, Punk shoved back, had a word, the kid shoved him again and almost sent him flying. Can anyone ID this Teyes chap in the video? Almost? Punk could have easily wiped out there and actually been hurt. Still don't blame him for his actions. youtu.be/WAniQ0L2S3Uin that video, a little after 30 seconds into it, that Lesnar kid is just up in Punk's ear and yelling in his face. Punk quickly turns and gives him a look while yelling something and that kid quickly shuts his mouth and cowers back. He didn't touch Punk after that, but continued to do his yelling Shortly after that, you can see that Teyes dude behind sunglasses guy giving Punk the Austin salute, then he shoves Punk in the back of the head, which sets him off and thinking it was the sunglasses guy who shoved his head
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Post by RPD88 on Oct 9, 2012 15:19:15 GMT -5
I think all we needed to know about that guys intelligence is the fact that he was hitting and shoving a professional wrestler in the kidney's and the back of the head. yep, that's true and also forgetting that a lot of people now-a-days have camera phones that can take good quality videos.
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Post by Tiger Millionaire on Oct 9, 2012 15:20:01 GMT -5
And I would counter that if you were somewhere, and someone clocked you in the face twice, and you didn't do anything, you'd be pretty pissed off, wouldn't you? Oh yeah definitely I'm not disputing that, did actually mean to include that. The guy who was wrongly accused and attacked does need to be compensated in some fashion Apologies for not making that clearer I think that is my issue. It's like, well Punk was in the right because he was being pushed. Well what does that make the guy who got clocked in the face? Collateral damage? And way too many youngsters around to be throwing blindly.
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