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Post by BR329 on Oct 9, 2012 15:46:06 GMT -5
Hope the douchebag fan who hit Punk and is bragging about gets banged up in the nick. What a knobhead. Saying that, and I mentioned this in the other thread, Punk was entirely in the wrong. He lashed out, hit the wrong man and could easily have injured him, there were kids nearby who could have got hurt and he's lucky the man or his friends didn't retaliate or things could have gotten nasty. Really, Punk's ass should be out the door considering the WWE's past reasons for firing people. I'm shocked people are still defending Punk here... he reacted wrong and assaulted an innocent person. Would you be saying he should be fired if he hit the right guy?
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Post by Thunderbolt on Oct 9, 2012 15:46:57 GMT -5
I'm not trying to flame or troll or anything man, but isn't that the same line of thinking that Punk had? Punk got hit several times for no reason and got mad so took a swing, unfortuantley he hit the wrong guy... that was wrong but clearly an accident, does the guy deserve to get compensated? Of course with free tickets, some swag, and a Punk apology... does Punk deserve to get punished, I say no... does that little piece of filth (I apologize if that crosses the lines mod let me know and I will edit it) who struck Punk in the back of the head and kidneys two areas much more sensitive than the cheek or face (not that it really matters but just saying) should be banned from that arena and charges filed for assault especially with him bragging from twitter like he is some kind of tough guy Sure, Punk is by far not the biggest douche in this story. But he was wrong, and he was pretty aggressive up there. www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_548022&feature=iv&src_vid=xliCPYdQ28I&v=2mar3twflmgIn that video it looks like the sunglasses guy might be giving Punk a quick slap/push in the back of the head to Punk right before he puts his glasses on? He has his hands up, does a gesture, and then pushed the back of Punks head...maybe? Man, this is gonna be like the Zapruder film.
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Post by Krimzon on Oct 9, 2012 15:47:31 GMT -5
"No-one has ever caught me because I'm that smart, despite the fact that the internet now has my name and Twitter account". First time for everything, pal. Any idiot that puts himself out there is seeking attention. What they don't realize is that all attention ain't good attention.
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Post by TCM on Oct 9, 2012 15:48:17 GMT -5
Teyes guy posted a tweet not even a half hour ago essentially challenging Punk. This guy...
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Post by muzzle on Oct 9, 2012 15:49:39 GMT -5
Has anyone on here really ever been slapped in the back of the head, and NOT done anything about it? That s*** A. hurts and B. is completely disrespectful. It's unreasonable to expect Punk not to react. He's not a robot. Some of you seem to live in the world where emotions don't exist, only corporate logic and levelheadedness prevail. It's a damming piece of footage in gif form, but if you watch the video and get the whole picture, Punk's reaction is justified. He was getting messed with from all directions, and nearly got pushed down those steep concrete steps. Yes, I was, at a movie theatre, by some kids. I turned around and yelled at them, and told their parents when the got back. I didn't just randomly start throwing elbows. Pff, come on bro. Knock those kids out.
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Post by RedDevil on Oct 9, 2012 15:50:27 GMT -5
Watching the video with the clear view of the actual attacker behind sunglasses guy, immediately made me think of this:
Am I alone? ;D
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Post by Ryback on a Pole! on Oct 9, 2012 15:50:42 GMT -5
Would you be saying he should be fired if he hit the right guy? Hmmm... it's a difficult one I wouldn't have sympathy for Teyes if Punk lamped him but... it would still have been entirely the wrong response from Punk, especially in such a crowded area with kids and innocent bystanders nearby who could and well... in the case of sunglasses guy, DID get caught up and hurt in the middle of it. Perhaps not fired if he hit the right guy since that does take the "assaulting an innocent man" part out of the equation but a fine, suspension and been bunged down the card would be adequete. Still entirely the wrong response though to start swinging elbows and backhanders. The fact he assaulted an innocent bystander however does change things and going by WWE's past precedent's for firing people (Making an admittedly bad taste rape joke, booking someone to interrupt the national anthem etc) then actually assaulting an innocent fan is a much worse offence.
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Post by Lancers on Oct 9, 2012 15:51:36 GMT -5
"bro I'm the one that was f***ing with him lmao them he rocked an innocent fan. that guy is about to be a millionaire!!! I punched [Punk's] kidney and slapped his back hella hard. bro [Punk] straight pounced on a poor day white guy. I hit him ran away then ran back and stood next to him cause I saw the camera." And he would have gotten away with it if it weren't for his meddling stupidity.
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Post by Krimzon on Oct 9, 2012 15:51:39 GMT -5
Teyes guy posted a tweet not even a half hour ago essentially challenging Punk. This guy... It's guys like him that give fans everywhere a bad name. You're supposed to love this and you act like that? I just don't understand it.
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Post by muzzle on Oct 9, 2012 15:53:13 GMT -5
Would you be saying he should be fired if he hit the right guy? Hmmm... it's a difficult one I wouldn't have sympathy for Teyes if Punk lamped him but... it would still have been entirely the wrong response from Punk, especially in such a crowded area with kids and innocent bystanders nearby who could and well... in the case of sunglasses guy, DID get caught up and hurt in the middle of it. Perhaps not fired if he hit the right guy since that does take the "assaulting an innocent man" part out of the equation but a fine, suspension and been bunged down the card would be adequete. Still entirely the wrong response though to start swinging elbows and backhanders. The fact he assaulted an innocent bystander however does change things and going by WWE's past precedent's for firing people (Making an admittedly bad taste rape joke, booking someone to interrupt the national anthem etc) then actually assaulting an innocent fan is a much worse offence. See, Punk was being shoved/hit by multiple people quite aggressively aswell. You can't just expect a normal human being with real emotions not to react. Sure people on the internet with the power of hindsight, its fine and dandy to say it shouldn't of happened.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2012 15:55:14 GMT -5
Has anyone on here really ever been slapped in the back of the head, and NOT done anything about it? That s*** A. hurts and B. is completely disrespectful. It's unreasonable to expect Punk not to react. He's not a robot. Some of you seem to live in the world where emotions don't exist, only corporate logic and levelheadedness prevail. It's a damming piece of footage in gif form, but if you watch the video and get the whole picture, Punk's reaction is justified. He was getting messed with from all directions, and nearly got pushed down those steep concrete steps. Yes, I was, at a movie theatre, by some kids. I turned around and yelled at them, and told their parents when the got back. I didn't just randomly start throwing elbows. Okay, good on you for not hitting a child, haha (that's not sarcastic, it may look that way). Thing is, Punk didn't hit a kid either, and the guy he was reacting to wasn't a kid. And you weren't a performer in a crowd of people you've been trying to make hate you all night, getting pushed in different directions and almost getting knocked down about 85 steps. Along with getting slapped in the head. If a MAN slaps you in the back of the head, that's a reason to go, consequences be damned.
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Post by Widow's Peak on Oct 9, 2012 15:56:28 GMT -5
Would you be saying he should be fired if he hit the right guy? Hmmm... it's a difficult one I wouldn't have sympathy for Teyes if Punk lamped him but... it would still have been entirely the wrong response from Punk, especially in such a crowded area with kids and innocent bystanders nearby who could and well... in the case of sunglasses guy, DID get caught up and hurt in the middle of it. Perhaps not fired if he hit the right guy since that does take the "assaulting an innocent man" part out of the equation but a fine, suspension and been bunged down the card would be adequete. Still entirely the wrong response though to start swinging elbows and backhanders. The fact he assaulted an innocent bystander however does change things and going by WWE's past precedent's for firing people (Making an admittedly bad taste rape joke, booking someone to interrupt the national anthem etc) then actually assaulting an innocent fan is a much worse offence. With the exception of AW, who I expect was fired less for the rape joke and more for generally being a douche, those incidents shouldn't have been punished by firing either. I reiterate that Punk obviously overreacted here, but ultimately he caused very little damage. It could have been worse, but it wasn't. What WWE is saying with their statement is that they are standing by their guy. Punk will probably have to pay restitution to the fan and that will be the end of it.
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Post by pepsitwist on Oct 9, 2012 15:57:00 GMT -5
I accept it's very poor judgement in the heat of the moment dealing with some hostile idiots in the crowd. If Punk apologies properly, the victim compensated and WWE make sure this doesn't happen again I'm satisfied.
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Post by WarChief on Oct 9, 2012 15:58:40 GMT -5
Said it before in the last thread, the security team deserves to be fired above anyone else.
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Post by Ryback on a Pole! on Oct 9, 2012 16:04:53 GMT -5
With the exception of AW, who I expect was fired less for the rape joke and more for generally being a douche, those incidents shouldn't have been punished by firing either. I reiterate that Punk obviously overreacted here, but ultimately he caused very little damage. It could have been worse, but it wasn't. What WWE is saying with their statement is that they are standing by their guy. Punk will probably have to pay restitution to the fan and that will be the end of it. Would they have stood by him if it was say Primo or JTG who hit an innocent fan? I don't think they would, same as if it was someone like Orton or Punk who made a rape joke they wouldn't have been fired. Really, the punishment should be the same no matter how high up or low down the card a guy is. Punk has always came across as a bit of a dick to fans, this time he crossed a line and he should get punished. Thinking about it, perhaps a firing is a bit harsh given the circumstances but, saying that, Punk's offence is much worse than other offences guys have gotten fired for. Personally, when I think about it more a firing would be a bit harsh given the fact Punk was pushed and hit. He does need some sort of punishment though, bang him back to the midcard, fine him and forget about making him one of the faces of the company. He's had his shot and blew it.
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Post by spagett on Oct 9, 2012 16:05:51 GMT -5
Would you be saying he should be fired if he hit the right guy? Hmmm... it's a difficult one I wouldn't have sympathy for Teyes if Punk lamped him but... it would still have been entirely the wrong response from Punk, especially in such a crowded area with kids and innocent bystanders nearby who could and well... in the case of sunglasses guy, DID get caught up and hurt in the middle of it. Perhaps not fired if he hit the right guy since that does take the "assaulting an innocent man" part out of the equation but a fine, suspension and been bunged down the card would be adequete. Still entirely the wrong response though to start swinging elbows and backhanders. The fact he assaulted an innocent bystander however does change things and going by WWE's past precedent's for firing people (Making an admittedly bad taste rape joke, booking someone to interrupt the national anthem etc) then actually assaulting an innocent fan is a much worse offence. Completely agree with this. If he'd hit the guy who was pushing and slapping him I'd still think it was a stupid thing to do but it would be understandable and he'd probably get away without any real punishment like Jericho in 2009. the fact is he's attacked an innocent fan. It may have been a case of mistaken identity but it's still a major issue and Punk is in the wrong. I'd fine the guy at the very least, they can't be seen to just let this slide.
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Post by Tiger Millionaire on Oct 9, 2012 16:09:29 GMT -5
Yes, I was, at a movie theatre, by some kids. I turned around and yelled at them, and told their parents when the got back. I didn't just randomly start throwing elbows. Okay, good on you for not hitting a child, haha (that's not sarcastic, it may look that way). Thing is, Punk didn't hit a kid either, and the guy he was reacting to wasn't a kid. And you weren't a performer in a crowd of people you've been trying to make hate you all night, getting pushed in different directions and almost getting knocked down about 85 steps. Along with getting slapped in the head. If a MAN slaps you in the back of the head, that's a reason to go, consequences be damned. So we can assume that both myself and Punk have eyes in the back of our head? Where are the walnuts?
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Post by Tiger Millionaire on Oct 9, 2012 16:10:45 GMT -5
Hope the douchebag fan who hit Punk and is bragging about gets banged up in the nick. What a knobhead. Saying that, and I mentioned this in the other thread, Punk was entirely in the wrong. He lashed out, hit the wrong man and could easily have injured him, there were kids nearby who could have got hurt and he's lucky the man or his friends didn't retaliate or things could have gotten nasty. Really, Punk's ass should be out the door considering the WWE's past reasons for firing people. I'm shocked people are still defending Punk here... he reacted wrong and assaulted an innocent person. Would you be saying he should be fired if he hit the right guy? And what if the guy he hit fell on those two children that were right next to him?
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Post by Widow's Peak on Oct 9, 2012 16:34:27 GMT -5
With the exception of AW, who I expect was fired less for the rape joke and more for generally being a douche, those incidents shouldn't have been punished by firing either. I reiterate that Punk obviously overreacted here, but ultimately he caused very little damage. It could have been worse, but it wasn't. What WWE is saying with their statement is that they are standing by their guy. Punk will probably have to pay restitution to the fan and that will be the end of it. Would they have stood by him if it was say Primo or JTG who hit an innocent fan? I don't think they would, same as if it was someone like Orton or Punk who made a rape joke they wouldn't have been fired. Really, the punishment should be the same no matter how high up or low down the card a guy is. Punk has always came across as a bit of a dick to fans, this time he crossed a line and he should get punished. Thinking about it, perhaps a firing is a bit harsh given the circumstances but, saying that, Punk's offence is much worse than other offences guys have gotten fired for. Personally, when I think about it more a firing would be a bit harsh given the fact Punk was pushed and hit. He does need some sort of punishment though, bang him back to the midcard, fine him and forget about making him one of the faces of the company. He's had his shot and blew it. CM Punk wouldn't have gotten away with a lot of things a few years ago either. Like it or not, you get more lee-way as a top guy. That's true pretty much at any place of work: the night shift manager has a lot more leeway than the assistant fry cook. I'm not saying he should get off scot-free (I'm all for a fine and suspension), but firing and/or massive demotion is a bit harsh. If he'd actually injured the fan or if he had assaulted someone outside of the venue, it would be a different story.
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Post by bob on Oct 9, 2012 16:59:37 GMT -5
Who's at fault 3 people I think: Punk for obvious reasons, security for not making a clear path for Punk in the crowd and allowing fans to get that close to him since he stupidly turned heel, the fan to touched him.
I feel feel for that fan who got the punch.
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