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Post by Throwback on Oct 13, 2012 2:09:08 GMT -5
In the very first movie Jason is still a kid stuck under the water. How come in every other movie he's an adult that hates water?
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Post by mcmahonfan85 on Oct 13, 2012 2:18:02 GMT -5
Jason in the first one was a dream
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Post by Corporate H on Oct 13, 2012 3:37:22 GMT -5
He only hates water in Freddy Vs. Jason, every other movie he's dived right in after his victims. From what I can remember he's submerged in parts III, IV, VI, VII, and VIII..also, the remake, but I suppose that's a dream sequence which would then count III out as well. Anyways, it's a retcon if I've ever seen one..
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Post by Throwback on Oct 13, 2012 8:07:56 GMT -5
He only hates water in Freddy Vs. Jason, every other movie he's dived right in after his victims. From what I can remember he's submerged in parts III, IV, VI, VII, and VIII..also, the remake, but I suppose that's a dream sequence which would then count III out as well. Anyways, it's a retcon if I've ever seen one.. I'm not familiar with the movies to much. I knows he's been in water but I thought he hated doing it. |
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Post by kidglov3s on Oct 13, 2012 8:09:44 GMT -5
He only hates water in Freddy Vs. Jason, every other movie he's dived right in after his victims. From what I can remember he's submerged in parts III, IV, VI, VII, and VIII..also, the remake, but I suppose that's a dream sequence which would then count III out as well. Anyways, it's a retcon if I've ever seen one.. I'm not familiar with the movies to much. I knows he's been in water but I thought he hated doing it. That was really a FvJ thing, and one of many reasons why that movie has had trouble with fans of the series. |
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Post by g1megatronfan on Oct 13, 2012 8:57:09 GMT -5
In part 4 he kills the naked chick in the inflatable raft and spears the guy in the groin, part 6 he charges in right after Tommy and in part 7 he drowns the skinny dipping chick after her boyfriend gets his face busted open with an axe.
In Freddy Vs. Jason...I always took it more as Freddy being able to manipulate Jason to the point to where he would discover his weakness much like he does all his victims. Although it kinda happens by accident in the film when Jason Flings Freddy into the pipes where all the water bursts.
As for why Jason is an adult...it's hinted in the series that he didn't actually drowned as a kid. He kinda lived as a deranged hermit and then he witnessed his mother get her head whacked off which sets up the rest of the series.
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Post by FinalGwen on Oct 13, 2012 13:25:45 GMT -5
I always took the FVJ situation as a deeper (dare I say it) submerged fear. There are things in our dreams that we could easily overcome in real life, but when we're in a nightmare, they're terrifying. There's things we don't even know we're afraid of, but they're locked in the subconscious. That's what Freddy tapped into.
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Oct 13, 2012 15:08:18 GMT -5
My question would be why did the mom think he was dead when he clearly wasn't?
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Post by DSR on Oct 13, 2012 15:09:45 GMT -5
I always took the FVJ situation as a deeper (dare I say it) submerged fear. There are things in our dreams that we could easily overcome in real life, but when we're in a nightmare, they're terrifying. There's things we don't even know we're afraid of, but they're locked in the subconscious. That's what Freddy tapped into. That's how I always saw it, too. |
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Post by Jason Voorhees on Oct 13, 2012 15:18:06 GMT -5
I just got paid to hate water in the one movie, otherwise I'm fine with it.
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Post by kidglov3s on Oct 13, 2012 15:19:12 GMT -5
I just got paid to hate water in the one movie, otherwise I'm fine with it. H2O-afraid for pay. |
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Post by Jason Voorhees on Oct 13, 2012 15:21:16 GMT -5
I just got paid to hate water in the one movie, otherwise I'm fine with it. H2O-afraid for pay. Guy needs to work ;D |
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Post by Mozenrath on Oct 13, 2012 16:02:06 GMT -5
From what I understand, the creator of the original says the ending of the first was a dream, and that as far as he is concerned, Jason is dead. The rest of the series is not his baby.
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Post by xCompackx on Oct 13, 2012 16:23:47 GMT -5
From what I understand, the creator of the original says the ending of the first was a dream, and that as far as he is concerned, Jason is dead. The rest of the series is not his baby. I can understand his frustrations, but considering how successful and iconic Jason became I hope he's not still upset about it. |
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