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Post by Non Banjoble Tokens on Oct 25, 2012 13:54:12 GMT -5
Does it say whether or not they have to be 100% female?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2012 13:55:43 GMT -5
Why does WWE still have the Divas? Between how WWE clearly feels about women's wrestling and the limitations the PG rating puts on using them as eye candy, why do they even bother? Best answer I can give on this is that it probably doesn't cost them as much as what they get out of it. Most aren't really paid a great deal and they're pretty faces to appear at signings, events, shows and all that. Sometimes they get some crosspromotional stuff out of it which is good for them And some of the fans like them of course. As far as how WWE feelsl about women's wrestling, what they've got going kinda works out for their model. They have them go out for a few minutes as filler. With so many diva matches being a few irish whips and a rollup, they don't really kill the show. From a purely business perspective, it's probably better for them to continue doing what they're doing, where the divas are just a little thing on the side...rather than outright abolishing the division. For the record, I'd prefer the division was gone. What they're doing makes sense though. If they wanted to make it an actual wrestling attraction, they could certainly go and pick up the talent to do so. They've made the decision not to do that, pick up actual wrestling women and put on longer matches, presumably because they don't think it is worth the investment vs payoff.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2012 14:09:34 GMT -5
They have all these "hot chicks", they can't have one that "isn't hot"? BTW Sara Del Rey is gorgeous, thinking she's not hot enough to put on TV is really narrow-minded. If the concern is "people will realize how terrible the current divas are if we put her on TV", that's more understandable, but also short-sighted and stupid. I gotta be honest, I find down-to-earth looking women far more attractive than someone who looks like they spend 6 hours in front of a mirror before going outside. Yeah, I find Sara more attractive than some of the divas. Most of them besides Eve and Layla, actually. I think the "problem" with SDR is that she has big legs/butt and doesn't have huge breasts. If she got implants, I bet she'd be on TV.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2012 14:13:37 GMT -5
Why does WWE still have the Divas? Between how WWE clearly feels about women's wrestling and the limitations the PG rating puts on using them as eye candy, why do they even bother? Best answer I can give on this is that it probably doesn't cost them as much as what they get out of it. Most aren't really paid a great deal and they're pretty faces to appear at signings, events, shows and all that. Sometimes they get some crosspromotional stuff out of it which is good for them And some of the fans like them of course. As far as how they feel about women's wrestling, what they've got going kinda works out for their model. They have them go out for a few minutes as filler. With so many diva matches being a few irish whips and a rollup, they don't really kill the show. From a purely business perspective, it's probably better for them to continue doing what they're doing, where the divas are just a little thing on the side...rather than outright abolishing the division. What do they get out of it? Does the local CBS affiilate in wherever pay WWE to have, say, Eve come on their morning show and plug Raw for that night? There's barely any Diva merchandise, no individual Diva has any outside of action figures, and their segments lose viewers. I can't see how the cost of paying them and paying for their plane tickets isn't greater than whatever money they do make for the company.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2012 14:26:49 GMT -5
Best answer I can give on this is that it probably doesn't cost them as much as what they get out of it. Most aren't really paid a great deal and they're pretty faces to appear at signings, events, shows and all that. Sometimes they get some crosspromotional stuff out of it which is good for them And some of the fans like them of course. As far as how they feel about women's wrestling, what they've got going kinda works out for their model. They have them go out for a few minutes as filler. With so many diva matches being a few irish whips and a rollup, they don't really kill the show. From a purely business perspective, it's probably better for them to continue doing what they're doing, where the divas are just a little thing on the side...rather than outright abolishing the division. What do they get out of it? Does the local CBS affiilate in wherever pay WWE to have, say, Eve come on their morning show and plug Raw for that night? There's barely any Diva merchandise, no individual Diva has any outside of action figures, and their segments lose viewers. I can't see how the cost of paying them and paying for their plane tickets isn't greater than whatever money they do make for the company. I don't think they pay for their ordinary travel from town to town unless they have a special deal. That goes for most of the men too. Hence the "road buddies" stories you hear. As for their actual pay vs what they add to the company, it's hard to quantify what makes many things a draw. I mean we can see it in the case of the big main event PPV match where we see buyrates spike, but does someone like Kofi Kingston make more for the company than he costs? What if Kofi was fired and he was replaced with a different midcarder. Would they then earn more for the WWE as just a midcard reasonably popular guy? As with most things in wrestling, it's not the individual performer but the total package that makes the show. Rather than trying to place an absolute value on every individual performer, they just go with what they want the show to flow like and then make it happen. When it comes to plugs on a program, like some diva on a talk show...that's good. WWE may not be paid anything, it doesn't matter, it's worthwhile just to get WWE on people's minds and have someone plug the PPV in front of an audience that would normally not be advertised to. Everyone has to watch for the first time sometime. Do I think that just because some random diva plugged a PPV on a show that it increased the buyrate? Absolutely. We'll never know by how much but when you get on a show where a million new people are watching and advertise something, it's going to pay off for you at least a little.
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Post by Tessmachers-Ass-Fan on Oct 25, 2012 14:39:04 GMT -5
Why does WWE still have the Divas? Between how WWE clearly feels about women's wrestling and the limitations the PG rating puts on using them as eye candy, why do they even bother? I forgot who wrote it in his book, but he said they have the divas around to keep the male wrestlers happy.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2012 15:02:09 GMT -5
What do they get out of it? Does the local CBS affiilate in wherever pay WWE to have, say, Eve come on their morning show and plug Raw for that night? There's barely any Diva merchandise, no individual Diva has any outside of action figures, and their segments lose viewers. I can't see how the cost of paying them and paying for their plane tickets isn't greater than whatever money they do make for the company. I don't think they pay for their ordinary travel from town to town unless they have a special deal. That goes for most of the men too. Hence the "road buddies" stories you hear. As for their actual pay vs what they add to the company, it's hard to quantify what makes many things a draw. I mean we can see it in the case of the big main event PPV match where we see buyrates spike, but does someone like Kofi Kingston make more for the company than he costs? What if Kofi was fired and he was replaced with a different midcarder. Would they then earn more for the WWE as just a midcard reasonably popular guy? As with most things in wrestling, it's not the individual performer but the total package that makes the show. Rather than trying to place an absolute value on every individual performer, they just go with what they want the show to flow like and then make it happen. When it comes to plugs on a program, like some diva on a talk show...that's good. WWE may not be paid anything, it doesn't matter, it's worthwhile just to get WWE on people's minds and have someone plug the PPV in front of an audience that would normally not be advertised to. Everyone has to watch for the first time sometime. Do I think that just because some random diva plugged a PPV on a show that it increased the buyrate? Absolutely. We'll never know by how much but when you get on a show where a million new people are watching and advertise something, it's going to pay off for you at least a little. I was talking specifically about airline tickets. WWE pays for those. And the Divas media apperances can't be nearly that significant. They aren't going on "Today" or "The Tonight Show". They go on morning shows only seen in the town wherever Raw or that night's house show is. I would be absolutely amazed if anyone, especially causal fans or non-fans, decided to spend $45 on a PPV solely because of some fluff piece aired on a local TV show that week.
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Post by Rave on Oct 25, 2012 15:08:40 GMT -5
This is one of the rare times where I miss Laurinaitis being part of the hiring process. When he was doing the hiring, it was easy just to make an "LOL Casting Couch" joke and call it a day.
In all seriousness, after Kelly being outright fired over calendar pics that would be considered pretty tame elsewhere, would any modeling agency even bother sending anyone over?
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Post by YiHammer on Oct 25, 2012 15:48:46 GMT -5
So what skills are they looking for? Or is that suppose to be the joke? Mcbain: that's the joke
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Post by Brood Lone Wolf Funker on Oct 25, 2012 17:08:18 GMT -5
If you want to scout skilled Divas just send someone to Chicago this weekend there are going to be a lot of them in one place at one time
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Post by PKO on Oct 25, 2012 17:10:34 GMT -5
Does it say whether or not they have to be 100% female? I love that they specified that in the last Diva Search casting call.
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Post by dashingdro on Oct 25, 2012 17:12:41 GMT -5
Divas do not instantly gain a huge fanbase. I don't think many of the divas have a huge fan base. Websites/Fansites pop up the moment they are hired though lol.
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Post by Banecat on Oct 25, 2012 17:43:26 GMT -5
I miss the Diva Search, please bring it back WWE.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Oct 25, 2012 17:45:04 GMT -5
I miss the Diva Search, please bring it back WWE.
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Post by Andrew is Good on Oct 25, 2012 17:53:17 GMT -5
Divas do not instantly gain a huge fanbase. I don't think many of the divas have a huge fan base. Websites/Fansites pop up the moment they are hired though lol. I've seen some of them. There's one person posting on a message board, and it's normally the webmaster. They get a fan following like any quasi celebrity gets one from doing anything, and for the most part, the divas are pretty much after thoughts. AJ maybe the strongest and most over diva right now, everyone else is an after thought and pretty useless. I'm for getting rid of the divas division, simply so they could bring it back with new people. A new coat of paint. Natalya has been jobbed into oblivion, but then again, nobody cares about the divas so what does it matter. Maybe keep Eve and AJ, but other then that, everyone should get released and start the division from scratch. Maybe bring some girls back in 6 months to a year, but it's a waste of time right now. Kaitlyn is not working out, Layla is ok but over as a fart in church. Rosa is eye candy for a team they don't push and they don't really need her, they never use Tamina, Aksana was bringing down Cesaro and she's pretty useless, the Funkettes don't have much of a purpose with Brodus losing his push, Alicia Fox is never used, Beth is leaving, and Natalya could be kept but giving her a release and some time away could help. The divas division is a hole of death, it's never been this bad and they might as well get rid of them all, save AJ and Eve.
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Post by Widow's Peak on Oct 25, 2012 18:16:26 GMT -5
So what skills are they looking for? Or is that suppose to be the joke? Mcbain: that's the joke The thread title was just me being snarky. There was a lot of talk about WWE getting frustrated with the "model girls" using WWE as a launching pad to do other things. People specualted that this would lead to hiring more women from the Indies, or at the very least hiring female athletes. The fact that they are doing the complete opposite is both sad and funny to me. But mostly funny.
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Post by greeby on Oct 25, 2012 18:30:06 GMT -5
Leaving aside any debate who they want to hire. Why do they want to hire more when they have 8 women on the developmental roster with Sara Del Rey as a trainer. And only two of those can regularly get on NXT.
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Post by Lila on Oct 25, 2012 18:31:14 GMT -5
I keep reading this as 'WWE Looking For Skrillex'.
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Post by deadstock on Oct 25, 2012 19:22:33 GMT -5
Come on WWE theres money here.
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