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Post by DiBiase is Good on Oct 27, 2012 16:53:00 GMT -5
and to anyone else this applies to as I don't know when the clocks change in every other country.
The clocks go back here tonight (well, tomorrow morning to be exact) but they don't go back in the USA yet.
So Hell in a Cell starts at midnight tomorrow.
And Raw starts at midnight on Monday Night/Tuesday Morning.
I'll bump this up a couple of times over the next couple of days.
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Post by PKO on Oct 27, 2012 17:17:35 GMT -5
Oh, of course! I didn't even think; thanks for the heads up!
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Post by "Gentleman" AJ Powell on Oct 27, 2012 17:40:51 GMT -5
Didn't realise Hell in a Cell was a free one until I checked the time, thanks for reminding us!
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Post by The Man That Sanity Forgot on Oct 27, 2012 23:34:01 GMT -5
Good man! Cheers for that reminder.
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Post by Hit Girl on Oct 28, 2012 0:14:05 GMT -5
The clocks haven't changed.
Astonishing tectonic activity has simply moved the UK closer to America.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2012 5:10:43 GMT -5
Thanks for the reminder good sir!
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Post by avenger on Oct 28, 2012 6:56:30 GMT -5
Didn't realise Hell in a Cell was a free one until I checked the time, thanks for reminding us! You get Sky Sports 1 for free? How do you manage that? |
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Post by hitch on Oct 28, 2012 7:14:16 GMT -5
Didn't realise Hell in a Cell was a free one until I checked the time, thanks for reminding us! You get Sky Sports 1 for free? How do you manage that? I'm pretty sure that's not what he meant. Nothing is free. Even if something was on free BBC 1 then one could be a pedant and say 'You don't pay your licence fee?' or if ITV1 - "Wow, didn't realise you didn't have to pay the electricity bill" It's just isn't an event that's chargeable ontop of what he pays ordinarily for his television service every month |
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Post by avenger on Oct 28, 2012 7:20:18 GMT -5
There's a huge difference between the terrestrial channels, and the £30-odd that Sky Sports costs a month.
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Post by hitch on Oct 28, 2012 7:24:59 GMT -5
There's a huge difference between the terrestrial channels, and the £30-odd that Sky Sports costs a month. You knew precisely what he meant when he said it. Wanting to point out Sky TV costs more than not having Sky TV doesn't detract from anything that he said. "I get gym membership free with my insurance" doesn't mean people don't wouldn't be aware he pays for his insurance as well. "Free" in this instance means 'nothing more on top of'. But as I said, you already knew that so why is this conversation happening? |
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Post by hitch on Oct 28, 2012 7:30:01 GMT -5
I remember a few years ago being concerned as the Sky TV-guide didn't show a movement of time for a PPV that I know wouldn't start at 1am because of the timezone shifting. I can't remember the PPV name but I think right up until the morning of the day of the event the TV guide hadn't changed.
Makes you wonder if an 'oops' moment is genuinely possible in those circumstances and if someone 'forgets' that the clocks change. In that would WWE be aware when it told SKy Sports the time of the actual transmission (e.g they tell them '1am Monday monring' - or would Sky sports have to correct the information to it's customers itself?
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Post by Snaptastic on Oct 28, 2012 8:27:36 GMT -5
There's a huge difference between the terrestrial channels, and the £30-odd that Sky Sports costs a month. You knew precisely what he meant when he said it. Wanting to point out Sky TV costs more than not having Sky TV doesn't detract from anything that he said. "I get gym membership free with my insurance" doesn't mean people don't wouldn't be aware he pays for his insurance as well. "Free" in this instance means 'nothing more on top of'. But as I said, you already knew that so why is this conversation happening? To be fair I am on his side in this one. I watch RAW, but I do resent the cost of the SkySports package in order to do that. As a comparison, the USA channel is on basic cable in the US last I checked so wouldn't be part of a package that costs above and beyond the standard. Sky could move WWE programming to base channels and charge for all PPVs but it would mean a cost decrease. But whilst Sky have the monopoly on this sort of thing, it's pointless arguing about it I suppose. On a side note, you can get SkySports 1 & 2 on Freeview now...for the low low price of £31.99 per month last I checked  |
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Post by hitch on Oct 28, 2012 8:37:07 GMT -5
oh yeah Sky Sports isn't inexpensive but I was just contextualising the word 'free' as the other poster used. The meaning behind the word would have been understood.
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Post by Snaptastic on Oct 28, 2012 8:39:05 GMT -5
oh yeah Sky Sports isn't inexpensive but I was just contextualising the word 'free' as the other poster used. The meaning behind the word would have been understood. Yes I am myself guilty of saying we in the UK have some PPVs for "free". I wouldn't mind paying the subscription if we went back to all PPVs on SkySports  |
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Post by crowwreak was WRONG on Oct 28, 2012 8:42:09 GMT -5
For any US users who have no idea what's going on with this argument:
Sky Digital is the UK's only relevant satellite provider. Their channels have the rights to WWE and TNA here. The sports channel package (expensive) is required to get all WWE shows apart from Experience. We used to get every PPV for free, apart from the UK only ones, then when they stopped doing those, they started charging for the big 4, then they changed to only having 2 PPVs "free".
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Post by Snaptastic on Oct 28, 2012 8:47:54 GMT -5
For any US users who have no idea what's going on with this argument: Sky Digital is the UK's only relevant satellite provider. Their channels have the rights to WWE and TNA here. The sports channel package (expensive) is required to get all WWE shows apart from Experience. We used to get every PPV for free, apart from the UK only ones, then when they stopped doing those, they started charging for the big 4, then they changed to only having 2 PPVs "free". I thought the 4 PPVs Channel 4 used to show were the ones to end up on charged PPV? As a side question, weren't those same 4 shows also shown on SkySports at the same time anyway? I seem to remember there being quite the anger when they switched to PPV. One saving grace is that HD PPV broadcast (incl Wrestlemania) in the UK is still at the low price of £14.95 ($24-ish). |
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Post by hitch on Oct 28, 2012 8:55:31 GMT -5
I think it started out that PPVs were 'free' on Sky Sports (not going back as far to those of us old enough to remember when they were on Sky Movies Plus) with only the UK-only events (Rebellion and Insurexion) being on PPV.
Then when C4 grabbed some PPVs, they only returned to Sky on a PPV basis. So 4 PPVs a year (plus the two UK-only events)
Then the UK only events were dropped at some point.
When Sky renegotiated with WWE for a new deal, most of the PPV events (including the old C4 ones) disappeared behind a PPV wall with only a couple remaining 'free'. I think it's still that way to this day.
The UK pays $24 for all the PPVs. Including, I believe, HD and Wrestlemania.
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Post by Snaptastic on Oct 28, 2012 9:01:01 GMT -5
I think it started out that PPVs were 'free' on Sky Sports (not going back as far to those of us old enough to remember when they were on Sky Movies Plus) with only the UK-only events (Rebellion and Insurexion) being on PPV. Then when C4 grabbed some PPVs, they only returned to Sky on a PPV basis. So 4 PPVs a year (plus the two UK-only events) Then the UK only events were dropped at some point. When Sky renegotiated with WWE for a new deal, most of the PPV events (including the old C4 ones) disappeared behind a PPV wall with only a couple remaining 'free'. I think it's still that way to this day. The UK pays $24 for all the PPVs. Including, I believe, HD and Wrestlemania. Yeah that's correct I think. All PPVs are at the same price, with no extra being charged for HD. |
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Post by hitch on Oct 28, 2012 9:03:02 GMT -5
I think it started out that PPVs were 'free' on Sky Sports (not going back as far to those of us old enough to remember when they were on Sky Movies Plus) with only the UK-only events (Rebellion and Insurexion) being on PPV. Then when C4 grabbed some PPVs, they only returned to Sky on a PPV basis. So 4 PPVs a year (plus the two UK-only events) Then the UK only events were dropped at some point. When Sky renegotiated with WWE for a new deal, most of the PPV events (including the old C4 ones) disappeared behind a PPV wall with only a couple remaining 'free'. I think it's still that way to this day. The UK pays $24 for all the PPVs. Including, I believe, HD and Wrestlemania. Yeah that's correct I think. All PPVs are at the same price, with no extra being charged for HD. Indeed. However Sky HD subscribers have to pay £10 a month as standard for the service, before we start throwing around the 'no extra charge' assertion  ;D |
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Post by Snaptastic on Oct 28, 2012 9:04:05 GMT -5
Yeah that's correct I think. All PPVs are at the same price, with no extra being charged for HD. Indeed. However Sky HD subscribers have to pay £10 a month as standard for the service, before we start throwing around the 'no extra charge' assertion ;D Plus the extra if you don't already have a Sky HD box. Then if you don't for some reason have a HD ready TV plus the relevant cables...good god we could go on for hours. God forbid when WWE start broadcasting in 3D. |
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