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Post by Nic Nemeth on Oct 28, 2012 23:41:02 GMT -5
Considering CM Punk, one of the smallest guys on the roster was able to do effective moves on him, that means every wrestler should get +15-20 points damage boost on Ryback.
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Post by Jeremy on Oct 28, 2012 23:43:31 GMT -5
Not every wrestler is the WWE Champion.
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Post by Rican on Oct 28, 2012 23:44:56 GMT -5
This is the problem with booking someone as a monster. Eventually they lose and then they suddenly become way more beatable, then there's a heel turn or something where they become a monster again, and so on and so forth.
IE Kane and Big Show's whole careers.
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Post by kidglov3s on Oct 28, 2012 23:46:53 GMT -5
Considering CM Punk, one of the smallest guys on the roster was able to do effective moves on him, that means every wrestler should get +15-20 points damage boost on Ryback. CM Punk used weapons and the Cell. He didn't do anything that would've been applicable to a typical match. Rick Rude getting a s*** win over Ultimate Warrior at Wrestlemania V didn't have any impact on Warrior's in-ring dominance. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2012 23:49:17 GMT -5
Considering CM Punk, one of the smallest guys on the roster was able to do effective moves on him, that means every wrestler should get +15-20 points damage boost on Ryback. Punk's beaten John Cena several times. That's not something other wrestlers can lay claim to. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2012 23:51:17 GMT -5
I can buy Punk getting offense on big guys because he's a good striker. The elbows and knees and kicks look convincing, no matter how big you are a knee in the face is gonna knock you back a bit.
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Post by Krimzon on Oct 28, 2012 23:51:35 GMT -5
Ever since he started wrestling roster members, they've been doing effective moves against him. Hell, Tyler Reks managed to get the upper hand on him for a hot minute.
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Post by Nic Nemeth on Oct 28, 2012 23:51:35 GMT -5
Not every wrestler is the WWE Champion. That destroys believability though. To a casual fan, CM Punk shouldn't last longer than a couple minutes if Ryback had gotten his hands on him. |
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Post by bob on Oct 28, 2012 23:52:40 GMT -5
Not every wrestler is the WWE Champion. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2012 23:54:41 GMT -5
Not every wrestler is the WWE Champion. That destroys believability though. To a casual fan, CM Punk shouldn't last longer than a couple minutes if Ryback had gotten his hands on him. It's all in the lay out of the match. Punk got the advantage numerous times simply by moving out of the way and letting the wreckless intense guy run into something. You play up Punk being a wily vet and Ryback the raw monster. |
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Post by Loser troll. Please ban me on Oct 29, 2012 0:02:42 GMT -5
IMO he needs a weakness, Not physically but mentally. Arm chair booking here but, I'd have punk play the mental game and out smart Ryback in future matches.
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Post by DragonMasterP on Oct 29, 2012 0:06:14 GMT -5
Judging by how he beat Maddox half to death, I'm willing to bet the answer is no.
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Post by BigWill on Oct 29, 2012 0:10:20 GMT -5
Not every wrestler is the WWE Champion. That destroys believability though. To a casual fan, CM Punk shouldn't last longer than a couple minutes if Ryback had gotten his hands on him. So, John Cena takes Punk to the limit, but still can't beat him. And casual fans are going to think Ryback should be able to take Punk out in a few minutes? |
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Post by SEAN CARLESS on Oct 29, 2012 0:12:52 GMT -5
Not every wrestler is the WWE Champion. That destroys believability though. To a casual fan, CM Punk shouldn't last longer than a couple minutes if Ryback had gotten his hands on him. I would hope that the fans in question would be smart enough to know that MMA technique like Muay Thai strikes and Jiu Jitsu submissions can and have taken out bloated meat bags. It ain't 1985 anymore. MMA has shattered Vince's 7-year-old boy-like perceptions when it comes to gym muscle. Now, if Punk's throwing Ryback around the ring; ya, I wouldn't buy that. But it's not out of the realm of possibility that Punk couldn't hold his own a bit. Go watch some old school PRIDE sometime. Little guys were schooling huge dudes there all the time. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2012 0:16:11 GMT -5
IMO he needs a weakness, Not physically but mentally. Arm chair booking here but, I'd have punk play the mental game and out smart Ryback in future matches. Punk could hide foreign objects in his trunks. And by foreign objects I mean slices of ham, or a little bag of fundip. |
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Post by Nic Nemeth on Oct 29, 2012 0:24:30 GMT -5
That destroys believability though. To a casual fan, CM Punk shouldn't last longer than a couple minutes if Ryback had gotten his hands on him. So, John Cena takes Punk to the limit, but still can't beat him. And casual fans are going to think Ryback should be able to take Punk out in a few minutes? Ryback is a dominant monster. John Cena is supposed to be a brawler who barely know how to wrestle that Punk has wrestled enough to know his weaknesses. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2012 0:36:15 GMT -5
I imagine he'll become even stronger now. He's going to end up wrecking someone very powerful soon thus giving him a makeup for this one.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2012 0:38:03 GMT -5
He'll squash Ziggler as many times as it takes to recover from this!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2012 0:41:15 GMT -5
The casual fan...that thinks matches are real fights?  |
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Post by BigWill on Oct 29, 2012 0:44:24 GMT -5
So, John Cena takes Punk to the limit, but still can't beat him. And casual fans are going to think Ryback should be able to take Punk out in a few minutes? Ryback is a dominant monster. John Cena is supposed to be a brawler who barely know how to wrestle that Punk has wrestled enough to know his weaknesses. Yeah, that makes no sense. |
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