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Post by JCBaggee on Nov 13, 2012 13:07:01 GMT -5
Given that the gimmick match of Survivor Series, the traditional 5 on 5 elimination tag match, is now just fodder that is slapped together at the last minute, I think it's safe to say it's the lowest on the totem pole of all the PPVs.
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Post by HBL on Nov 13, 2012 13:52:04 GMT -5
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Nov 13, 2012 13:58:42 GMT -5
Know what'd help this situation out?
Not having a freaking PPV every 3 weeks
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Post by CMWaters on Nov 13, 2012 14:06:56 GMT -5
There is no big four any more. It's the big two. Rumble, and Mania. Summerslam is just another show. Considering Summerslam had a Brock Lesnar/HHH match, and has its own Axxess of sorts, which is where they show of the current year's game roster, I think it's the closest we have to a third for the Big Three.
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Post by Cronant on Nov 13, 2012 14:11:50 GMT -5
Meh. I still think of it as big 4. Sometimes the "its not big enough" just sounds silly to me.
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Post by JCBaggee on Nov 13, 2012 14:28:21 GMT -5
There is no big four any more. It's the big two. Rumble, and Mania. Summerslam is just another show. Considering Summerslam had a Brock Lesnar/HHH match, and has its own Axxess of sorts, which is where they show of the current year's game roster, I think it's the closest we have to a third for the Big Three. Had this topic a couple months ago. WWE hypes SummerSlam as it's second biggest event of the year, the #2 event to WrestleMania. And for the longest time it was, but storyline and finance wise, that goes to the Rumble now. They still hype SummerSlam as #2, I guess so they can focus on the Royal Rumble solely as "The first stop on the road to WrestleMania", but it hasn't been #2 for a long time.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2012 14:30:47 GMT -5
Given that the gimmick match of Survivor Series, the traditional 5 on 5 elimination tag match, is now just fodder that is slapped together at the last minute, I think it's safe to say it's the lowest on the totem pole of all the PPVs. I think the June PPV is absolute bottom, followed by Over the Limit. One of them is the final lost of WM rematches, and the other is filler before the 'big summer angle'. Both are very half-arsed, regardless.
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Post by JCBaggee on Nov 13, 2012 14:35:14 GMT -5
Given that the gimmick match of Survivor Series, the traditional 5 on 5 elimination tag match, is now just fodder that is slapped together at the last minute, I think it's safe to say it's the lowest on the totem pole of all the PPVs. I think the June PPV is absolute bottom, followed by Over the Limit. One of them is the final lost of WM rematches, and the other is filler before the 'big summer angle'. Both are very half-arsed, regardless. Over The Limit is the June PPV. I guess you could say that. But this year's had Punk vs. Bryan at the height of their feud, and Cena finally getting his hands on Laurenitis. The year before had Cena winning the title back from The Miz and Lawler and Cole's feud ending. Certainly did more for stories than Triple H vs. Lesnar or Punk vs. Big Show vs. Cena did.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2012 14:50:19 GMT -5
I think the June PPV is absolute bottom, followed by Over the Limit. One of them is the final lost of WM rematches, and the other is filler before the 'big summer angle'. Both are very half-arsed, regardless. Over The Limit is the June PPV. I guess you could say that. But this year's had Punk vs. Bryan at the height of their feud, and Cena finally getting his hands on Laurenitis. The year before had Cena winning the title back from The Miz and Lawler and Cole's feud ending. Certainly did more for stories than Triple H vs. Lesnar or Punk vs. Big Show vs. Cena did. Cena actually won the title back from Miz at Extreme Rules, which is usually the end of April PPV. That Lawler and Cole feud should have ended at Wrestlemania anyway, I don't think many people were happy to pay to see that feud for yet another month. OTL 2011 had an incredibly low buyrate for that reason. OTL 2012 was slightly better, but that's not saying much. It played host to the most obvious heel turn of all time.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2012 14:57:38 GMT -5
Given that the gimmick match of Survivor Series, the traditional 5 on 5 elimination tag match, is now just fodder that is slapped together at the last minute, I think it's safe to say it's the lowest on the totem pole of all the PPVs. I think the June PPV is absolute bottom, followed by Over the Limit. One of them is the final lost of WM rematches, and the other is filler before the 'big summer angle'. Both are very half-arsed, regardless. Yeah, the WWE is usually at its worst in May-June. You either have Wrestlemania feuds which should have ended long ago, or new feuds that have absolutely no heat to them.
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Post by Wolf Hurricane on Nov 13, 2012 16:14:03 GMT -5
I think the June PPV is absolute bottom, followed by Over the Limit. One of them is the final lost of WM rematches, and the other is filler before the 'big summer angle'. Both are very half-arsed, regardless. Over The Limit is the June PPV. Nooo, Over The Limit is the May PPV. "The June PPV" hasn't been the same one since 2009. First there was Fatal Four Way, then there was Capitol Punishment and this year, it was No Way Out.
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Post by thelonewolf527 on Nov 13, 2012 17:41:19 GMT -5
Survivor Series still does better than MITB so I don't see how MITB can be considered #4 just because people enjoy it more.
Survivor Series last had over 320,000 buys, which if I'm not mistaken was better than SummerSlam. Granted it had The Rock on the show, but it still counts.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Nov 13, 2012 17:51:32 GMT -5
There is no big four any more. It's the big two. Rumble, and Mania. Summerslam is just another show. Considering Summerslam had a Brock Lesnar/HHH match, and has its own Axxess of sorts, which is where they show of the current year's game roster, I think it's the closest we have to a third for the Big Three. Brock also main evented Extreme Rules against Cena, that doesn't make it one of the biggest shows of the year. I'll give you the Axxess thing. I'm not saying WWE doesn't try to hype Summerslam as the #2, but it isn't really.
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Post by hitch on Nov 13, 2012 17:53:15 GMT -5
Isn't 3 weeks the norm now? I mean that's roughly the distance between PPV's. So how can they have longer?
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Post by jjdash on Nov 13, 2012 21:45:40 GMT -5
Know what'd help this situation out? Not having a freaking PPV every 3 weeks Sure it detracts from the storyline build (i.e. announcing the teams without any build up whatsoever). But why should they care about making the overall story better when they can make more money by having more PPVs?
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Post by trollrogue on Nov 14, 2012 9:46:15 GMT -5
The last time the WWE title changed hands in the past year was at SS, so it's still important enough to bump it over MITB as #4 I'd say.
Also it's true what they said about Orton's career being tied to SS matches, I think someone like The Miz will end up having the match of their career if they get booked correctly to receive the Sole Survivor bragging rights.
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Post by ToyfareMark on Nov 15, 2012 10:24:57 GMT -5
Isn't 3 weeks the norm now? I mean that's roughly the distance between PPV's. So how can they have longer? Wrestlemania is on April 7th. The next PPV, Extreme Rules is May 19th, so that will have close to a 6 week build. I don't mind since I already have my tickets to Extreme Rules lol.
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Post by 543Y2J on Nov 15, 2012 11:19:31 GMT -5
Meh. I still think of it as big 4. Sometimes the "its not big enough" just sounds silly to me.
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Post by RowdyRobbyPiper on Nov 15, 2012 11:27:48 GMT -5
Know what'd help this situation out? Not having a freaking PPV every 3 weeks Yup. You can thank 90's WCW for that.
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Post by CMWaters on Nov 15, 2012 11:31:31 GMT -5
Know what'd help this situation out? Not having a freaking PPV every 3 weeks Yup. You can thank 90's WCW for that. Makes me miss the days when the non Big 5 (as King of the Ring was still a PPV back then) PPVs were only 2 hours and cheaper.
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