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Post by cruiserfan on Nov 17, 2012 6:54:22 GMT -5
He seriously made Sin Cara look as good as everyone hoped he would be back when they signed Mistico. He's about the only person who's been able to do it in WWE so far.
Cesaro/Sin Cara feud? Or just skip him up to Mysterio?
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Nov 17, 2012 6:59:17 GMT -5
Neither. If Cesaro can make people look good, then a face should be brought up to HIS level. I'm tired of this "only heels can move up the card" mentality while faces remain stagnant.
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Post by Wieners=$$$ on Nov 17, 2012 7:15:50 GMT -5
I agree Tyson Kidd and Cesaro have had some good matches and both look solid against the other. Gabriel would be another. If WWE doesn't tag them regularly, give them pushes for the U.S. title. If they're going to have a lower-mid card title then make it as competitive as possible, and have both the talent and title get over, like the Cruiser-weight title in WCW. Cough... you know like what you should do with a title...cough
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Post by cruiserfan on Nov 17, 2012 8:40:34 GMT -5
I'd rather see him wrestle other good people so they have amazing matches as opposed to getting good matches out of mediocre people.
Not that Kidd or Gabriel are mediocre but he's wrestled both numerous times recently.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Nov 17, 2012 8:50:56 GMT -5
It's not a matter of Cesaro making Sin Cara look good, it's that Sin Cara gaining more confidence in the ring since his pairing up with Mysterio.
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Post by Apricots And A Pear Tree on Nov 17, 2012 8:51:50 GMT -5
Well then he's screwed.
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Post by cruiserfan on Nov 17, 2012 9:33:05 GMT -5
It's not a matter of Cesaro making Sin Cara look good, it's that Sin Cara gaining more confidence in the ring since his pairing up with Mysterio. Disagree. For one thing we're talking about a singles match, Rey wasn't even at ringside let alone directly involved. I don't see how you can give more credit to Rey for a smooth Sin Cara match than his actual opponent (Cesaro). Cesaro had a good repuatation for working with luchadores back from his Chikara days - Now just think of the matches Sin Cara would have with Hero/Ohno. Or better yet, Cara/Mysterio vs. Kings of Wrestling. |
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Post by ________ has left the building on Nov 17, 2012 9:46:17 GMT -5
It's not a matter of Cesaro making Sin Cara look good, it's that Sin Cara gaining more confidence in the ring since his pairing up with Mysterio. Disagree. For one thing we're talking about a singles match, Rey wasn't even at ringside let alone directly involved. I don't see how you can give more credit to Rey for a smooth Sin Cara match than his actual opponent (Cesaro). Cesaro had a good repuatation for working with luchadores back from his Chikara days - Now just think of the matches Sin Cara would have with Hero/Ohno. Or better yet, Cara/Mysterio vs. Kings of Wrestling. No, Rey has been helping Cara get used to wrestling in a WWE ring and the American style. He works with him inside and outside of the ring. Cesaro is familiar with the lucha style but let's not act like Cara is some stumble bum who got to be carried. |
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Post by cruiserfan on Nov 17, 2012 11:14:59 GMT -5
Okay, let's see Cara look that good against anyone else.
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Post by misconduct was wrong on Nov 17, 2012 11:20:06 GMT -5
I'll agree that Cara is getting better. Cesaro is awesome at making his opponent look good. That certainly doesn't bode well for him main eventing down the line, but it does mean he'll be a staple for a long time.
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Post by Bone Daddy on Nov 17, 2012 11:23:49 GMT -5
I still believe that it just took Sin Cara a little bit longer to get used to the ring, ropes, etc due to all his injuries, and now he's turning it on
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Post by Slammy Award-Winning Cannibal on Nov 17, 2012 11:44:23 GMT -5
I'll agree that Cara is getting better. Cesaro is awesome at making his opponent look good. That certainly doesn't bode well for him main eventing down the line, but it does mean he'll be a staple for a long time. Ziggler says hello, with his MITB briefcase in tow. |
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Post by BigWill on Nov 17, 2012 11:52:37 GMT -5
I'll agree that Cara is getting better. Cesaro is awesome at making his opponent look good. That certainly doesn't bode well for him main eventing down the line, but it does mean he'll be a staple for a long time. Ziggler says hello, with his MITB briefcase in tow. Just because Ziggler's got the MITB briefcase doesn't mean he'll be a main eventer. Judging from the way he's been booked lately, even if he does successfully cash in, they'll likely end up Jack Swaggering his title run, and he'll be back to constant losses in the midcards within a few months. |
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Post by keezy on Nov 17, 2012 12:17:38 GMT -5
I feel like he'll lose the title on Sunday since he's really not very over.
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Post by Slammy Award-Winning Cannibal on Nov 17, 2012 14:59:26 GMT -5
Ziggler says hello, with his MITB briefcase in tow. Just because Ziggler's got the MITB briefcase doesn't mean he'll be a main eventer. Judging from the way he's been booked lately, even if he does successfully cash in, they'll likely end up Jack Swaggering his title run, and he'll be back to constant losses in the midcards within a few months. The reason Jack Swagger isn't in the main event is the same reason he's not on TV right now. Ziggler doesn't have Swagger's problems whatsoever. |
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Post by Digital Witness on Nov 17, 2012 15:34:23 GMT -5
Antoino Cesaro spent lots of time learning the lucha style while working in Chikara with Mike Quackenbush and Jorge "Skayde" Rivera. I think in Cesaro's case, he's a guy who can work the style Sin Cara knows best, and it showed.
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Post by YiHammer on Nov 17, 2012 16:55:51 GMT -5
Notice it's always people that were trained in other styles besides WWEs brainwashing Orton style that can work with Sin Cara
Evan Bourne
Dibiase
Bryan
Del Rio
Cesaro
Only ones I can think of off the top of my head
Long story short, WWEs horrid style is awful
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Post by BigWill on Nov 17, 2012 17:02:09 GMT -5
Notice it's always people that were trained in other styles besides WWEs brainwashing Orton style that can work with Sin Cara Evan Bourne Dibiase Bryan Del Rio Cesaro Only ones I can think of off the top of my head Long story short, WWEs horrid style is awfulI don't know if I'd go that far, but I'd say that training solely in the WWE style that they teach in developmental doesn't make for a very well-rounded superstar. |
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Post by SEAN CARLESS on Nov 17, 2012 17:11:31 GMT -5
I think it was Jake Roberts who said, be weary of making others look too good in a match, because you can get typecast in it, and used as such forever.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Nov 17, 2012 17:12:24 GMT -5
I think it was Jake Roberts who said, be weary of making others look too good in a match, because you can get typecast in it, and used as such forever. Hey Dolph Ziggler, how ya doing? |
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