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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Jul 16, 2012 20:14:12 GMT -5
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Post by Rican on Jul 16, 2012 20:15:50 GMT -5
I'm amazed at the amount of people that are "happy this series is over". Why the hell are you happy? Are you insinuating that whoever takes the realm next is going to do a better job...or is going to give it a supernatural feel? How do we even know WB is going to want to go in that direction, let alone reboot it right away? If anything, if it continues to pull the kind of money that it has pulled already, there's absolutely no way they're going to say "well, that's cool and all, but since a few people are complaining about it being a crime movie, we better give them a CGI Clayface and some super fast crazy action scenes". It's not going to happen! IT'S TOO SRS.
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Post by Starshine on Jul 16, 2012 20:23:27 GMT -5
I'm amazed at the amount of people that are "happy this series is over". Why the hell are you happy? Are you insinuating that whoever takes the realm next is going to do a better job...or is going to give it a supernatural feel? How do we even know WB is going to want to go in that direction, let alone reboot it right away? If anything, if it continues to pull the kind of money that it has pulled already, there's absolutely no way they're going to say "well, that's cool and all, but since a few people are complaining about it being a crime movie, we better give them a CGI Clayface and some super fast crazy action scenes". It's not going to happen! IT'S TOO SRS. It also needs more bright flourescent buildings.
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Post by the2ndevil on Jul 16, 2012 20:30:31 GMT -5
It says a lot that this even has to be said. Having said that, I am just not feeling this movie at all. The trailers have left me with a feeling of total "eh". It started when I found out the villain was going to be Bane. Seems to me that the only people who care about the character or are even aware such a character exists are comic readers that are holding on to the fact he was a badass in the comics about 20 years ago. I hope it does well and people like, but I can't help but feel like this should have been Two Face's movie, and rushing through him in The Knight is going to be seen as a mistake in the long run.
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Post by mcmahonfan85 on Jul 16, 2012 20:39:33 GMT -5
It also needs more bright flourescent buildings. and where are the nipples? how can you have a batsuit without nipples?! IT MAKES NO SENSE!!!
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Post by Michael Coello on Jul 16, 2012 20:42:24 GMT -5
I'm amazed at the amount of people that are "happy this series is over". Why the hell are you happy? Are you insinuating that whoever takes the realm next is going to do a better job...or is going to give it a supernatural feel? How do we even know WB is going to want to go in that direction, let alone reboot it right away? If anything, if it continues to pull the kind of money that it has pulled already, there's absolutely no way they're going to say "well, that's cool and all, but since a few people are complaining about it being a crime movie, we better give them a CGI Clayface and some super fast crazy action scenes". It's not going to happen! The old expression "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" comes to mind when reading this. Which, I reply with, "It may not be broken, but it surely is worn out."
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Jul 16, 2012 20:46:30 GMT -5
I'm amazed at the amount of people that are "happy this series is over". Why the hell are you happy? Are you insinuating that whoever takes the realm next is going to do a better job...or is going to give it a supernatural feel? How do we even know WB is going to want to go in that direction, let alone reboot it right away? If anything, if it continues to pull the kind of money that it has pulled already, there's absolutely no way they're going to say "well, that's cool and all, but since a few people are complaining about it being a crime movie, we better give them a CGI Clayface and some super fast crazy action scenes". It's not going to happen! The old expression "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" comes to mind when reading this. Which, I reply with, "It may not be broken, but it surely is worn out." Between this, and my newfound respect for TNA recently, you and me are a lot more in synch than usual, Mikey.
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Post by Starshine on Jul 16, 2012 20:47:13 GMT -5
It also needs more bright flourescent buildings. and where are the nipples? how can you have a batsuit without nipples?! IT MAKES NO SENSE!!! Exactly. And what the f***? Bane should be green and have big veins drawn on his arms. He should also only be able to say his name.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2012 20:51:49 GMT -5
and where are the nipples? how can you have a batsuit without nipples?! IT MAKES NO SENSE!!! Exactly. And what the f***? Bane should be green and have big veins drawn on his arms. He should also only be able to say his name. He should also be allowed to say "BOMB!" as he plants bombs.
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Post by salsashark on Jul 16, 2012 20:52:16 GMT -5
I'm amazed at the amount of people that are "happy this series is over". Why the hell are you happy? Are you insinuating that whoever takes the realm next is going to do a better job...or is going to give it a supernatural feel? How do we even know WB is going to want to go in that direction, let alone reboot it right away? If anything, if it continues to pull the kind of money that it has pulled already, there's absolutely no way they're going to say "well, that's cool and all, but since a few people are complaining about it being a crime movie, we better give them a CGI Clayface and some super fast crazy action scenes". It's not going to happen! IT HAS NO JOKES!!!!!!! THE AVENGERS IS BETTER!!!!! EVERYTHING SHOULD BE LIKE A MARVEL MOVIE!!!! COMIC BOOK MOVIES MUST ALWAYS BE VERY BRIGHT EVEN IF THEY DON'T SUIT THE CHARACTER!!! LOUD NOISES!!!!
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Post by Starshine on Jul 16, 2012 20:52:50 GMT -5
Exactly. And what the f***? Bane should be green and have big veins drawn on his arms. He should also only be able to say his name. He should also be allowed to say "BOMB!" as he plants bombs. Great idea! We also need more puns. You can never have enough puns.
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Post by salsashark on Jul 16, 2012 20:55:24 GMT -5
It says a lot that this even has to be said. Having said that, I am just not feeling this movie at all. The trailers have left me with a feeling of total "eh". It started when I found out the villain was going to be Bane. Seems to me that the only people who care about the character or are even aware such a character exists are comic readers that are holding on to the fact he was a badass in the comics about 20 years ago. How else are they going to make Bane a "name" villain if not for the movie? You could say the same thing for the Scarecrow, Ra's al Ghul, or nearly any villain in the Batman mythos that isn't one of the five or six most famous names. You have to build somewhere.
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Post by Michael Coello on Jul 16, 2012 21:00:35 GMT -5
Look, just cause people want to see something different doesn't mean people hate the Nolan films or think they suck. The thing is that it doesn't mean they have to continue it, or that going a different direction is bad. Even Nolan isn't looking to continue and move on, cause he's already said what he was planning in those 3 movies.
Batman has had 8 theatrical movies, 2 serials, 5 solo animated series, and a TV show, all different from each other. People just want to see the next evolution of the Bat universe, and how someone else will imagine it.
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Post by ohiofan1 on Jul 16, 2012 21:05:27 GMT -5
Rotten Tomatoes has officially disabled comments for The Dark Knight Rises
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Post by salsashark on Jul 16, 2012 21:16:26 GMT -5
Look, just cause people want to see something different doesn't mean people hate the Nolan films or think they suck. The thing is that it doesn't mean they have to continue it, or that going a different direction is bad. Even Nolan isn't looking to continue and move on, cause he's already said what he was planning in those 3 movies. Batman has had 8 theatrical movies, 2 serials, 5 solo animated series, and a TV show, all different from each other. People just want to see the next evolution of the Bat universe, and how someone else will imagine it. I understand what you mean and more interpretations are good (sure, I'd like more Batman movies), but do look at it from the perspective of someone who comes on here and has read regularly in the comic movie threads about how comic book movies are too gritty now--a trend I have found only "exists" on this message board. I wrote a long post about this in, I think, an Avengers-related thread few weeks ago and only one person responded to me, I think. Even if people want to move on, at least wait until this franchise is over with and give Nolan and all the benefit of the doubt. I wish people would really remember the last impression of Batman pre-Begins. It was a shitty movie involving Bat credit cards, awful puns, and unneccessary goofiness. Nolan is two for two with Batman so far and has not disgraced the franchise in a way that really legitimizes any serious backlash.
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Jul 16, 2012 21:20:54 GMT -5
He should also be allowed to say "BOMB!" as he plants bombs. Great idea! We also need more puns. You can never have enough puns. Don't forget a bat credit card
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Post by Michael Coello on Jul 16, 2012 21:30:22 GMT -5
Look, just cause people want to see something different doesn't mean people hate the Nolan films or think they suck. The thing is that it doesn't mean they have to continue it, or that going a different direction is bad. Even Nolan isn't looking to continue and move on, cause he's already said what he was planning in those 3 movies. Batman has had 8 theatrical movies, 2 serials, 5 solo animated series, and a TV show, all different from each other. People just want to see the next evolution of the Bat universe, and how someone else will imagine it. I understand what you mean and more interpretations are good (sure, I'd like more Batman movies), but do look at it from the perspective of someone who comes on here and has read regularly in the comic movie threads about how comic book movies are too gritty now--a trend I have found only "exists" on this message board. I wrote a long post about this in, I think, an Avengers-related thread few weeks ago and only one person responded to me, I think. Even if people want to move on, at least wait until this franchise is over with and give Nolan and all the benefit of the doubt. I wish people would really remember the last impression of Batman pre-Begins. It was a s***ty movie involving Bat credit cards, awful puns, and unneccessary goofiness. Nolan is two for two with Batman so far and has not disgraced the franchise in a way that really legitimizes any serious backlash. I really wish people would stop acting like everything pre-Begins was complete s***. Each movie had their own merits to them and their own hindrances. Same went for the first movie, same with the latest and all the ones in between. People will do the same the minute the new series hits and becomes a big success. I do think it's the time to wonder what comes next. Even Nolan himself says he's done with this, as he's finished telling his story. The franchise is pretty much over after this week's movie hits. Now it's time for someone else to make something, and eventually, down the line, fans will call all 3 Nolan films s*** after the superior "BATMAN REBORN" movie comes out with the villain being Penguin or Black Mask or King Tut or whoever is called up in the next director/writer's hands. Doesn't mean you and everyone else can't enjoy what happens for the next few weeks, months even, when the film hits and the numbers start climbing up.
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Post by ohiofan1 on Jul 16, 2012 21:36:22 GMT -5
I understand what you mean and more interpretations are good (sure, I'd like more Batman movies), but do look at it from the perspective of someone who comes on here and has read regularly in the comic movie threads about how comic book movies are too gritty now--a trend I have found only "exists" on this message board. I wrote a long post about this in, I think, an Avengers-related thread few weeks ago and only one person responded to me, I think. Even if people want to move on, at least wait until this franchise is over with and give Nolan and all the benefit of the doubt. I wish people would really remember the last impression of Batman pre-Begins. It was a s***ty movie involving Bat credit cards, awful puns, and unneccessary goofiness. Nolan is two for two with Batman so far and has not disgraced the franchise in a way that really legitimizes any serious backlash. I really wish people would stop acting like everything pre-Begins was complete s***. Each movie had their own merits to them and their own hindrances. Same went for the first movie, same with the latest and all the ones in between. People will do the same the minute the new series hits and becomes a big success. I do think it's the time to wonder what comes next. Even Nolan himself says he's done with this, as he's finished telling his story. The franchise is pretty much over after this week's movie hits. Now it's time for someone else to make something, and eventually, down the line, fans will call all 3 Nolan films s*** after the superior "BATMAN REBORN" movie comes out with the villain being Penguin or Black Mask or King Tut or whoever is called up in the next director/writer's hands. Doesn't mean you and everyone else can't enjoy what happens for the next few weeks, months even, when the film hits and the numbers start climbing up. Well in defense of that claim, I watched Batman Returns again today and I didn't like it at all. I have honestly never liked the movie so I don't think it's fair to say that some of the pre-Nolan Batman films were not S***
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Post by salsashark on Jul 16, 2012 21:40:15 GMT -5
I understand what you mean and more interpretations are good (sure, I'd like more Batman movies), but do look at it from the perspective of someone who comes on here and has read regularly in the comic movie threads about how comic book movies are too gritty now--a trend I have found only "exists" on this message board. I wrote a long post about this in, I think, an Avengers-related thread few weeks ago and only one person responded to me, I think. Even if people want to move on, at least wait until this franchise is over with and give Nolan and all the benefit of the doubt. I wish people would really remember the last impression of Batman pre-Begins. It was a s***ty movie involving Bat credit cards, awful puns, and unneccessary goofiness. Nolan is two for two with Batman so far and has not disgraced the franchise in a way that really legitimizes any serious backlash. I really wish people would stop acting like everything pre-Begins was complete s***. Each movie had their own merits to them and their own hindrances. Same went for the first movie, same with the latest and all the ones in between. People will do the same the minute the new series hits and becomes a big success. I do think it's the time to wonder what comes next. Even Nolan himself says he's done with this, as he's finished telling his story. The franchise is pretty much over after this week's movie hits. Now it's time for someone else to make something, and eventually, down the line, fans will call all 3 Nolan films s*** after the superior "BATMAN REBORN" movie comes out with the villain being Penguin or Black Mask or King Tut or whoever is called up in the next director/writer's hands. Doesn't mean you and everyone else can't enjoy what happens for the next few weeks, months even, when the film hits and the numbers start climbing up. In absolutely no way was everything pre-Nolan complete s***. I would never, ever say that. Batman '89 is still my favorite Batman movie for a variety of reasons, I loved Returns for how bleak it is, never watched more than a handful of episodes but definitely see the merits of Animated and Beyond, liked the '60s series for Frank Gorshin and a few of the characters it introduced to me to, etc. Even Batman and Robin had a few nifty details. It's just that Batman and Robin was so dire that the franchise needed a shot in the arm and Nolan's Batman was it, much like Burton's Batman was a big contrast to what the mass public remembered of Batman (i.e., Adam West being a total ham). It's not wrong to wonder what comes next--I do, too--but the vibe here isn't that, "Hmm, I'm curious about what will follow" but more like "Thank God this f***ing horrible series is going to be over." If Dark Knight Rises is as good as it looks, it will be one of the most consistently good--maybe best--trilogies of superhero films of all time. Like I said earlier today, I'm not going to come on here and tell everyone with a contrasting opinion to piss off if they don't like something I do, but the backlash has felt irrational and absolutely undue. I am not trying to stifle discussion--just add a contrasting opinion to how I've repeatedly read on here about terrible SRS Batman is.
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Post by Frosty on Jul 16, 2012 21:40:23 GMT -5
Lol, "I didn't like it - must be shit"
I have to agree with Michael Coello.
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