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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Dec 4, 2012 14:45:28 GMT -5
If he has to give up the title, I think they need to have a heel lose to The Rock and there is one heel that isn't doing anything right now: Can The Rock stand up to the newfound aggressiveness of ADR?
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Post by MGH on Dec 4, 2012 14:45:33 GMT -5
If he has to give up the title, I think they need to have a heel lose to The Rock and there is one heel that isn't doing anything right now: He's too busy becoming a more aggressive Alberto Del Rio ... again.
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Post by Cronant on Dec 4, 2012 14:45:36 GMT -5
The better option would be to try and turn Orton since he's been wanting to go heel.
Or use Ziggler.
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Post by JCBaggee on Dec 4, 2012 14:46:23 GMT -5
Damn it, forgot about that. It's been confusing for a lot of people, me clearly included, because Ziggler has been on Raw so much and now a Raw guy is challenging Smackdown guy for the Smackdown brand's title. Damn. There's nothing to forget, honestly. WWE waives stipulations and does whatever is convenient for them all the time. They would explain it away in one promo. MITB is there in case of emergency for them. Wouldn't be the first time. If anything, Punk being forced to drop the title could be the excuse to waive the stipulation, for the sake of "entertainment".
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2012 14:46:34 GMT -5
People seem to forget that Ziggler's case is SPECIFICALLY referred to as the "World Heavyweight Championship Money in the Bank Briefcase." There's no way WWE will handwave that away for the sake of Cena winning the WWE title, that is way too insulting to my intelligence. 1. WWE will handwave ANY stipulation 2. ESPECIALLY for Cena.
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Post by WorkingInAColeMine on Dec 4, 2012 14:47:49 GMT -5
I don't see the reason this would be fake, I also don't think they usually use Dr. James Andrews for fake injuries.
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Post by Crappler El 0 M on Dec 4, 2012 14:48:11 GMT -5
Here's my take. If Punk can't wrestle right now but can at Mania, then there best bet is to have a TLC match between Ziggler, Ryback, and Cena for the WWE Championship. In that case, you take away the stipulation about Money in the Bank. If Punk can wrestle at Mania, then have him compete for the title against Cena or Rock.
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Post by pepsitwist on Dec 4, 2012 14:48:55 GMT -5
Please be a work.
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Post by BigWill on Dec 4, 2012 14:49:05 GMT -5
Damn it, forgot about that. It's been confusing for a lot of people, me clearly included, because Ziggler has been on Raw so much and now a Raw guy is challenging Smackdown guy for the Smackdown brand's title. Damn. There's nothing to forget, honestly. WWE waives stipulations and does whatever is convenient for them all the time. They would explain it away in one promo. MITB is there in case of emergency for them. Wouldn't be the first time. And it would make sense in a way for the WWE to change the stipulation if Cena were to win the briefcase. Because lets face it, there'd be no reason for Cena to even want the briefcase if it were only for the Heavyweight title, as even if he were to win the title, it would be seen as a step down from what he's been doing on Raw.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2012 14:49:25 GMT -5
Well, this sucks. I hope that if Ryback wins the belt, after some kind of oh-crap-we-need-a-new-champion-battle-royal match, he becomes a transition champion. The WWE don't need another hoss as champion. Have Rock take the belt at the Royal Rumble, bury the guy, and have Miz face Rock at Wrestlemania for a lengthy title reign.
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Post by Mayonnaise on Dec 4, 2012 14:49:31 GMT -5
I don't see the reason this would be fake, I also don't think they usually use Dr. James Andrews for fake injuries. It's really according to most sites, the only part that seems kayfabed is the emergency thing as it seems they are using it to put over Ryback more.
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Post by Arrow on Dec 4, 2012 14:49:40 GMT -5
Maybe I missed something... why exactly does Cena need the briefcase again?
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Post by PKO on Dec 4, 2012 14:50:27 GMT -5
If he has to drop the title at least it can be incoportated into the overarching story. He was a record breaking champion who had to relinquish the gold when he was injured. He's still the rightful champion, etc.
I hope for the best for Punk.
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Post by WorkingInAColeMine on Dec 4, 2012 14:50:52 GMT -5
I don't see the reason this would be fake, I also don't think they usually use Dr. James Andrews for fake injuries. It's really according to most sites, the only part that seems kayfabed is the emergency thing as it seems they are using it to put over Ryback more. I think anyone saying fake is just using wishful thinking.
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Post by Cronant on Dec 4, 2012 14:51:23 GMT -5
Maybe I missed something... why exactly does Cena need the briefcase again? None. If they want the title on Cena, he could easily get a match without the Briefcase. The Surgery is on WWE.com anyway, so if Punk can't go, it'll just be vacated, instead of a cash in, since Cena wouldn't do that anyway on an injured guy.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2012 14:51:24 GMT -5
I hope CM Punk has a full recovery and lives a long healthy life.
With that said, I really really really want a new WWE Champion. If this is how it has to happen, so be it.
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Post by Shaun2k5 on Dec 4, 2012 14:51:39 GMT -5
I would say heel Miz would have been VERY easy fodder for Rock. Built in feud and everything, easily passes the time until WM when Cena/Punk could get the match.
But alas. Del Rio gets my vote.
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Post by BigWill on Dec 4, 2012 14:52:09 GMT -5
Maybe I missed something... why exactly does Cena need the briefcase again? Because the WWE won't stop until Cena is recognized by the fans as the best WWE superstar of all time.
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Post by Xifax on Dec 4, 2012 14:53:03 GMT -5
Anything but Ryback. Pleeeeease anything other than that suckfest.
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Post by BigBadZ on Dec 4, 2012 14:53:05 GMT -5
Hate to see him lose the belt due to this... I was kinda hoping to see Cena win WHC and bring credibility back to it and fight with Punk over which belt is #1. No disrespect to Ryback or Miz but it wouldn't seem like a top belt against Cena unless it is Punk with added 380 day reign
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