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Post by willywonka666 on Dec 23, 2012 10:29:31 GMT -5
I was checking out an article about the year in review and again the praise that Skyfall got. I have only seen this and the Spy Who Loved Me, but I am familiar with the Bond Franchise in general and what makes a Bond film.
I mentioned when it came out that I thought it was LONG and it didn't make me think of a Bond film much til toward the end.
I mean I still have a hangup about him being blonde, but moreso, the big gadget in this film was radio communique? Was it a cellphone? Hell I forget
Of course I have only seen two films.
So what makes a Bond film? What is the film that in your opinion is the least "Bond-like" James Bond movie out there and why?
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Post by Jiren on Dec 23, 2012 10:35:13 GMT -5
Licence to Kill
Take out the Bond related stuff and replace it you'll still have the same flick.
All that's "Bondian" in LTK is
- Bond
- Felix
- Gunbarrell
- M
- Song
It could very easily be a Lethal Weapon or Miami Vice movie
Still a good movie though
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Post by SHAKEMASTER TV9 is Don Knotts on Dec 23, 2012 10:36:27 GMT -5
Quantum of Solace maybe. Or I'm just a hater for that movie. License to Kill is close, it is more a revenge flick than Bond and not many locations. But it redeems itself with Ninjas.
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Dec 23, 2012 11:02:20 GMT -5
Yeah, License to Kill was the biggest departure from the basic Bond concept yet. Moonraker, Live And Let Die and Die Another Day were over the top, but they all stick to the key Bond motifs. LTK is essentially a generic revenge flick on a drug dealer that could have been done with any other character.
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Post by DiBiase is Good on Dec 23, 2012 11:56:41 GMT -5
The last act of Skyfall is very un-Bond like. I won't go into details as it's still on release.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2012 12:03:05 GMT -5
The new bond films are pretty un-Bond-like to me.
They're very exciting, well-made action films (except Solace), but if they named the character something else there'd be very little to make you think its a bond film.
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Post by VengeanceGOD on Dec 23, 2012 13:39:02 GMT -5
Casino Royale. Skyfall was the first Bond movie Craig's made.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2012 13:49:30 GMT -5
I'm going to go with On Her Majesty's Secret Service. It's kind of a love story, which is weird for Bond.
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Post by Legion on Dec 23, 2012 14:14:01 GMT -5
The new bond films are pretty un-Bond-like to me. They're very exciting, well-made action films (except Solace), but if they named the character something else there'd be very little to make you think its a bond film. Bingo. They are, well, two of them are, good films. But they are just generic action films, nothing about them really feels all that Bond'y (although parts of Skyfall tried) |
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Post by Cyno on Dec 23, 2012 14:23:11 GMT -5
The funny thing is that Daniel Craig's Bond is probably the most accurate version to Ian Flemming's original. His Bond movies feel very Bond-like to me. They're just not like Sean Connery's Bond movies, which is what people think of as the gold standard for James Bond instead of Ian Flemming's novels.
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Post by The Booty Disciple on Dec 23, 2012 17:03:11 GMT -5
The funny thing is that Daniel Craig's Bond is probably the most accurate version to Ian Flemming's original. His Bond movies feel very Bond-like to me. They're just not like Sean Connery's Bond movies, which is what people think of as the gold standard for James Bond instead of Ian Flemming's novels. Here here. When I saw Royale, I was thoroughly pleased with the return to close adherence to the Fleming novel, which I read in middle school (the silly move to *snort* Texas Hold 'Em being my biggest complaint). Glad to see that they're back to being tight, gritty, and less about glib remarks (even Connery was guilty of that at the end) and more about the fact that espionage is a thrill ride, but a dangerous and morally dubious one. |
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Post by Hit Girl on Dec 23, 2012 18:26:01 GMT -5
All the Daniel Craig films.
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Post by ERON on Dec 23, 2012 23:39:29 GMT -5
Licence to Kill Take out the Bond related stuff and replace it you'll still have the same flick. All that's "Bondian" in LTK is - Bond - Felix - Gunbarrell - M - Song It could very easily be a Lethal Weapon or Miami Vice movie Still a good movie though I came in here to post exactly this. Don't get me wrong, License to Kill is awesome, but it could have easily been a generic, non-007 action movie starring Michael Dudikoff, Don "the Dragon" Wilson, or Andrew Stevens and nothing would have been lost. In fact, that might have made it even more awesome. |
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Post by The OP on Dec 24, 2012 0:10:19 GMT -5
The funny thing is that Daniel Craig's Bond is probably the most accurate version to Ian Flemming's original. His Bond movies feel very Bond-like to me. They're just not like Sean Connery's Bond movies, which is what people think of as the gold standard for James Bond instead of Ian Flemming's novels. I think the same things, but I think them about Timothy Dalton. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2012 9:57:43 GMT -5
I'm going to go with On Her Majesty's Secret Service. It's kind of a love story, which is weird for Bond. Nah, most of the movie is still very much Bondish. Even though M and Q aren't there for much. But that ending. THAT ENDING.  THAT is what makes it stand out as not Bond-like. |
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Post by agent817 on Dec 24, 2012 10:37:29 GMT -5
Licence to Kill Take out the Bond related stuff and replace it you'll still have the same flick. All that's "Bondian" in LTK is - Bond - Felix - Gunbarrell - M - Song It could very easily be a Lethal Weapon or Miami Vice movie Still a good movie though I came in here to post exactly this. Don't get me wrong, License to Kill is awesome, but it could have easily been a generic, non-007 action movie starring Michael Dudikoff, Don "the Dragon" Wilson, or Andrew Stevens and nothing would have been lost. In fact, that might have made it even more awesome. I agree. License To Kill is one of my favorite Bond films. In fact, I like both Dalton films. However, like someone else said, it felt like Lethal Weapon or Die Hard or even a Miami Vice episode. Plus, the villain was a drug lord, not an international threat or something like how other previous Bond villains were. The only other "human" villains I thought were Kristatos and Whitaker/Koskov (They were both the main villains of "The Living Daylights"). |
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