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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2012 9:21:15 GMT -5
Remember this, that never came out?
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Post by unoriginalalex on Dec 31, 2012 11:38:05 GMT -5
It's a shame, because it looked really interesting and I was looking forward to seeing it.
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Post by Steveweiser on Dec 31, 2012 11:40:54 GMT -5
Katz apparently went into some personal problems during the year that severely delayed the project, and there doesn't seem to be any timeline for this coming out at all. They did have that "The Underground" thing, but that wasn't any good at all.
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Post by Gerard Gerard on Dec 31, 2012 11:43:32 GMT -5
There was tapings done, no? Is that where all the moolah went?
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Post by flatsdomino on Dec 31, 2012 13:46:26 GMT -5
Not to mention a good deal of those guys (Hero, Ryan, Gallows, others) that were main players are now under contract to either WWE or TNA. Shame, because this looked really promising. But that's what happens when you wait in the legality-filled world of pro wrestling.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Dec 31, 2012 15:14:30 GMT -5
If I had a dollar for every time I heard a startup promotion that was going to changed the face of wrestling, I would have enough to buy a double Whataburger with cheese combo meal.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2012 15:32:46 GMT -5
Maybe Mr. Katz decided to "have a little fun" once he got all that kickstarter money, and wound up running from pimps, bookies, and dealers trying to shake off a mean habit and figure out how he's going to pay up.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2012 15:42:46 GMT -5
Not to mention a good deal of those guys (Hero, Ryan, Gallows, others) that were main players are now under contract to either WWE or TNA. Shame, because this looked really promising. But that's what happens when you wait in the legality-filled world of pro wrestling. None of that really matters, though. He filmed the season with all of them in it during 2011 when they were legally able to do it.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Dec 31, 2012 17:22:14 GMT -5
Not to mention a good deal of those guys (Hero, Ryan, Gallows, others) that were main players are now under contract to either WWE or TNA. Shame, because this looked really promising. But that's what happens when you wait in the legality-filled world of pro wrestling. None of that really matters, though. He filmed the season with all of them in it during 2011 when they were legally able to do it. I thought the problem was they didn't get things like promos filmed thanks to financial and time constraints and now can't film them thanks to these guys being under contract elsewhere.
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Post by Brandon Walsh is Insane. on Dec 31, 2012 17:47:32 GMT -5
Didn't he end up getting a contract for a Youtube Wrestling Program during the filming of WRP?
And yeah, I read something about them having to do the wrap arounds and interviews still. The in ring action was finished, but the storylines weren't.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2012 19:42:00 GMT -5
If that is indeed the case, then the time has come for them to either just admit that and release the matches as stand alone matches, or refund everyone's money for the DVD sets. Ignoring everyone and not releasing anything is pretty much the worst way to handle the situation.
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Post by flatsdomino on Jan 1, 2013 17:37:56 GMT -5
Not to mention a good deal of those guys (Hero, Ryan, Gallows, others) that were main players are now under contract to either WWE or TNA. Shame, because this looked really promising. But that's what happens when you wait in the legality-filled world of pro wrestling. None of that really matters, though. He filmed the season with all of them in it during 2011 when they were legally able to do it. Still, would those guys be able to be featured on a product put out by another promotion at this point when they're under contract to TNA/WWE, even if it was filmed in 2011? On top of that, it'd be rough to have half the characters from the first season disappear if they were to do a second - they based the whole thing around guys they can't use anymore.
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Post by notasmark on Jan 1, 2013 17:41:37 GMT -5
None of that really matters, though. He filmed the season with all of them in it during 2011 when they were legally able to do it. Still, would those guys be able to be featured on a product put out by another promotion at this point when they're under contract to TNA/WWE, even if it was filmed in 2011? On top of that, it'd be rough to have half the characters from the first season disappear if they were to do a second - they based the whole thing around guys they can't use anymore. If the talent in question signed releases I don't think it matters if they're contracted now.
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Post by Mayonnaise on Jan 1, 2013 18:04:39 GMT -5
None of that really matters, though. He filmed the season with all of them in it during 2011 when they were legally able to do it. Still, would those guys be able to be featured on a product put out by another promotion at this point when they're under contract to TNA/WWE, even if it was filmed in 2011? On top of that, it'd be rough to have half the characters from the first season disappear if they were to do a second - they based the whole thing around guys they can't use anymore. The plan all along was for the characters to be easily replaceable for that reason. That if the guys left for WWE or TNA, got injured or didn't want to do the next season they could easily be written off. As for what happened, his story is that shortly after filming he found out that he lost everything in a Ponzi scheme, went into a depression and, while he didn't admit this he implied he was hospitalized for the issues that brought up. He then got a job writing and directing a couple if films to make some money and that he dropped the ball huge with this because of all that. I've heard that one of the backers who donated over 100k has the tapes and they figured out how to work around missing out on some of the backstage stuff. Supposedly Konnan was doing voice over and PBP work for it last year in 2012.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Jan 1, 2013 18:42:22 GMT -5
So WRP is the Duke Nukem Forever of wrestling. I guess to expect in 2024 before they finally finish it for home release.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2013 22:47:28 GMT -5
None of that really matters, though. He filmed the season with all of them in it during 2011 when they were legally able to do it. Still, would those guys be able to be featured on a product put out by another promotion at this point when they're under contract to TNA/WWE, even if it was filmed in 2011? Yes. The same way ROH can release CM Punk DVDs in 2013, with matches which were taped prior to signing his WWE deal.
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Post by molson5 on Jan 2, 2013 14:54:19 GMT -5
Every two-bit promoter and wanna be promoter thinks the WWE is garbage and that they're the real booking geniuses and wrestling business geniuses. But almost all of them are incompetent or thieves, or both.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2013 18:24:16 GMT -5
Every two-bit promoter and wanna be promoter thinks the WWE is garbage and that they're the real booking geniuses and wrestling business geniuses. But almost all of them are incompetent or thieves, or both. Generally correct. The ones who actually are good businessmen who also put on quality shows (such as PWG and CHIKARA), they usually don't put themselves out front as the genius glory hog owners publicly. They just run their own solid companies and put on good shows. Katz never ran a single show prior to WRP. And there's only kind of sort of (one minute of) evidence that show existed.
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Jan 2, 2013 18:45:39 GMT -5
Every two-bit promoter and wanna be promoter thinks the WWE is garbage and that they're the real booking geniuses and wrestling business geniuses. But almost all of them are incompetent or thieves, or both. Pretty much true when it comes to someone wanting to be the next be thing in wrestling. Honestly how many times as someone come along "New" federation that is supposed too be the "Alternative" to the WWE or TNA and yet nothing ever happens or they don't last. I'm looking at MLW, Wrestling Society X, XWF, and that whatever rumored company in 2012 that we where supposed to have a big announcement in the new year of 2011? You know the one that had "Vader, Booker T, Sabu, and others" sign and promised health insurance or some non sense. 90% of the reason is this or nobody ever had the funding to deliver something that would last. The reason why ROH lasted for so long is they didn't try so much so fast and over spend. The issue is to be a big time federation you need a big bank account too launch it. None of these place have it. Call the WWE whatever but back it up is key. You can not beat a billion dollar company with words and not even half the money the WWE has. Most of these guys have enough too book one show and not get the kind of return from fans turn out and sales to keep going.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2013 19:18:06 GMT -5
99% of these startups think and act like it's so easy to do what the existing promotions to, except do it "better." Then they can't even get off the ground.
That whole Kickstarter pitch, Katz was so cocky to say how it's a "novel concept" to book storylines with a beginning, middle, and end. On his publicity (appearances on podcasts who helped him convince fans to give him $100,000) he, in similarly cocky fashion, discussed the various ways he will be able to easily get his product in the hands of the fans. Acting as though he's smarter than everyone else in wrestling.
Fast forward 17 months later, and he hasn't released anything.
WWE or TNA may not be everyone's cup of tea, but they consistently run shows fans can watch.
ROH produces a weekly television product without fail.
Promotions like CHIKARA and PWG have run on a consistent basis for years.
WRP can't get even one episode finished and released, despite having $100,000 to play with.
It's so simple, right?
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