So where was The Joker during TDKR?

[Glitch]

Production wise it's obvious why he's not there, but you'd think a conniving man like himself would have taken advantage of the chaos in Gotham.
Was there a deleted scene or unused part of the script that says he was sent to a federal prison or somewhere else outside of Gotham? You'd think one little line could have cleared it all up.

[Deleted]

Arkham wasn't liberated?

[Rican]

According to the novelization tie-in, they left him in Arkham. He probably escaped while everything was going on with Bane.

[tigermaskxxxvii]

Dec 31, 2012 17:27:13 GMT -5 @akeem said:

Arkham wasn't liberated?

I imagine The Joker and the rest of the rest of The Arkham inmates watching Blackgate get liberated and The Joker thinking "Ok, we gotta be next!" and becomes more and more agitated as the days go by and they have yet to be sprung.

[ICBM]

You would shift focus from the new villain by even mentioning such a huge heel. It would steal Bane's heat and after the mention one of two things happen. Either folks are burned by such an offended mention of a power player or fans are then waiting for him to join the story in someway and get distracted from the plot and logic of the new bad guy you are getting over. Good call not mentioning him at all IMO.

[G✇JI☈A]

He was at Arkham, washing his tig... er purple suit.

[Deleted]

Didn't the novelization say he just sat in Arkham watching the chaos unfold?

[Mozenrath]

Dec 31, 2012 17:43:50 GMT -5 tigermaskxxxvii said:

Dec 31, 2012 17:27:13 GMT -5 @akeem said:

Arkham wasn't liberated?

I imagine The Joker and the rest of the rest of The Arkham inmates watching Blackgate get liberated and The Joker thinking "Ok, we gotta be next!" and becomes more and more agitated as the days go by and they have yet to be sprung.

Scarecrow got out, though, and he likely would have gone to Arkham, himself. It's possible Bane just wouldn't be stupid enough to expect Joker to be a reliable facet of his plot.

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Dec 31, 2012 17:53:34 GMT -5 Mozenrath said:

Dec 31, 2012 17:43:50 GMT -5 tigermaskxxxvii said:

I imagine The Joker and the rest of the rest of The Arkham inmates watching Blackgate get liberated and The Joker thinking "Ok, we gotta be next!" and becomes more and more agitated as the days go by and they have yet to be sprung.

Scarecrow got out, though, and he likely would have gone to Arkham, himself. It's possible Bane just wouldn't be stupid enough to expect Joker to be a reliable facet of his plot.

Scarecrow always gets out for some reason, probably because he's a jobber villain.

[Confused Mark Wahlberg]

I imagine the Scarecrow role was supposed to go to the Joker originally.

[Feyrhausen]

A terrorist on the scale of the Joker would have ended up in Guantanamo Bay.

[RKTaker]

Dec 31, 2012 17:52:25 GMT -5 @gmac said:

Didn't the novelization say he just sat in Arkham watching the chaos unfold?

who reads novels especially when you could just see the movie

[SHAKEMASTER TV9 is Don Knotts]

Well, I don't think Crane was crazy so I don't believe he'd be in Arkham. When he was caught in Dark Knight, he was dealing drugs so I think he'd be in Blackgate. Also, since he was an accomplice of Ra's Al Ghul in Batman Begins, Bane would be aware of him and let him out.

I'm sure the League of Shadows know what a wildcard Joker was and not even touch. They wanted an army anyway, many of the Blackgate prisoners being soldiers in Organized Crime, would be more their style than the imbalanced in Arkham.

[Mozenrath]

Dec 31, 2012 17:58:26 GMT -5 SHAKEMASTER TV9 is Don Knotts said:

Well, I don't think Crane was crazy so I don't believe he'd be in Arkham. When he was caught in Dark Knight, he was dealing drugs so I think he'd be in Blackgate. Also, since he was an accomplice of Ra's Al Ghul in Batman Begins, Bane would be aware of him and let him out.

I'm sure the League of Shadows know what a wildcard Joker was and not even touch. They wanted an army anyway, many of the Blackgate prisoners being soldiers in Organized Crime, would be more their style than the imbalanced in Arkham.

Pretty much. Crane was good pick for the kangaroo court.

Joker, if he is not being held elsewhere, would more or less probably be seen as a symptom of Gotham's disease to them, anyway.

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Dec 31, 2012 17:55:03 GMT -5 Confused Mark Wahlberg said:

I imagine the Scarecrow role was supposed to go to the Joker originally.

Considering how Ledger died well before they ever wrote TDKR, I would think any usage of the Joker for this one was deleted from the Nolans' mindsets long ago.

The Scarecrow role was just using Cillian Murphy again as a fun cameo (like they did with him in TDK). Judge Joker would've never gone as straightforward as what Scarecrow did in this one.

[Deleted]

I always imagined he got the death sentence, transferred way beyond Gotham, or Bane knew how much of a wildcard he was and would of conflicted with him on ideologies that he didn't release him on purpose.

[Deleted]

Tweeting about how Bane's doing it all wrong.

[The Ichi]

Joker would have messed with Banes "let Gotham die slowly" way of thinking too much.

[SHAKEMASTER TV9 is Don Knotts]

Dec 31, 2012 18:36:04 GMT -5 @personman01 said:

Tweeting about how Bane's doing it all wrong.

Miss me now!? @gpd#OccupyGotham

Gotham will endure? More like Gotham is manure! AM I RIGHT? Go to hell. #OccupyGotham

[mysterydriver]

He was painting a giant bat signal on the bridge with gas.

Plot hole: solved.