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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2012 18:44:47 GMT -5
Joker would have messed with Banes "let Gotham die slowly" way of thinking too much. Joker would probably have turned face just to screw with Bane's plan because it amused him.
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Post by mysterydriver on Dec 31, 2012 18:47:49 GMT -5
"I have come to liberate you."
"What did you say?"
"Careful now, for I care not repeat myself."
"I'm sorry, could you try not talking directly into the muffler?"
"Your comments are reducing your freedom."
"Your attempts at obfuscating large words is adorable. Want to know how I got these scars?"
"Sigh. Lock the door back."
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Post by Sephiroth on Dec 31, 2012 20:27:26 GMT -5
He was out looking for more cowbell
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Post by Porky's Butthole on Dec 31, 2012 20:46:29 GMT -5
Batman called in a favor. Joker's in the prison in Metropolis.
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Post by Pgarodactyl on Dec 31, 2012 21:07:34 GMT -5
I just imagine Joker had pissed off enough of the criminals in Gotham City that, if he ever got in front of enough of them for more than 30 seconds, they would necessitate Joker get put in solitary. Once there, they just forgot about him when Bane liberated.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Dec 31, 2012 21:29:12 GMT -5
I imagine the Scarecrow role was supposed to go to the Joker originally. Nah, the movie we got would have been completely different. David Goyer has said a few times that the original idea he and Nolan were kicking around while working on and wrapping up The Dark Knight was for the third film to have Joker going on trial for his crimes, and for him to play a Hannibal Lecter-type role where Batman comes to him in Arkham to have Joker help him try and figure out the new villain's mindset.
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Post by tigermaskxxxvii on Dec 31, 2012 21:55:10 GMT -5
I imagine the Scarecrow role was supposed to go to the Joker originally. Considering how Ledger died well before they ever wrote TDKR, I would think any usage of the Joker for this one was deleted from the Nolans' mindsets long ago. The Scarecrow role was just using Cillian Murphy again as a fun cameo (like they did with him in TDK). Judge Joker would've never gone as straightforward as what Scarecrow did in this one. True. But "Death.....By exile!" does seem like the kind of gallows humor The Joker would dig.
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Post by Legion on Dec 31, 2012 23:05:18 GMT -5
I imagine the Scarecrow role was supposed to go to the Joker originally. Nah, the movie we got would have been completely different. David Goyer has said a few times that the original idea he and Nolan were kicking around while working on and wrapping up The Dark Knight was for the third film to have Joker going on trial for his crimes, and for him to play a Hannibal Lecter-type role where Batman comes to him in Arkham to have Joker help him try and figure out the new villain's mindset. That would have been awful. Even more removed from the source material and even more 'police procedural with a man in a bat suit' than what we already had
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2012 23:17:51 GMT -5
That probably would've been the first act and then the final two would set up the final Batman/Joker confrontation. I imagine Catwoman would've still played a part in the third film. But John Blake might not be around.
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Post by agent817 on Jan 1, 2013 0:46:38 GMT -5
You would shift focus from the new villain by even mentioning such a huge heel. It would steal Bane's heat and after the mention one of two things happen. Either folks are burned by such an offended mention of a power player or fans are then waiting for him to join the story in someway and get distracted from the plot and logic of the new bad guy you are getting over. Good call not mentioning him at all IMO. I just love your smarky talk and using wrestling elements in this discussion.
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Post by Mozenrath on Jan 1, 2013 0:49:20 GMT -5
If it wasn't a little pricy, I'd buy the Movie Masters Bane(shirtless one who has more articulation) and Joker and set up Bane to "break Joker". Why? I dunno, it'd be cool.
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Post by Glitch on Jan 1, 2013 0:56:04 GMT -5
If it wasn't a little pricy, I'd buy the Movie Masters Bane(shirtless one who has more articulation) and Joker and set up Bane to "break Joker". Why? I dunno, it'd be cool. Or Joker showing Bane a magic trick. I dunno, for some reason I can't see the Joker jobbing to Bane.
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Post by Michael Coello on Jan 1, 2013 0:59:01 GMT -5
He was telling some blond doctor about his abusive father and their visit to the circus.
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Post by Mozenrath on Jan 1, 2013 1:03:22 GMT -5
If it wasn't a little pricy, I'd buy the Movie Masters Bane(shirtless one who has more articulation) and Joker and set up Bane to "break Joker". Why? I dunno, it'd be cool. Or Joker showing Bane a magic trick. I dunno, for some reason I can't see the Joker jobbing to Bane. Depends on where they are fighting, under what circumstances. If it's just a hand to hand fight, even if Joker had a knife, he'd probably lose, badly.
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Post by BlackoutCreature on Jan 1, 2013 4:09:43 GMT -5
He was telling some blond doctor about his abusive father and their visit to the circus. I don't think that story is gonna go over too well with him.
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Post by Nerdkiller the threadkiller on Jan 1, 2013 8:05:35 GMT -5
Didn't the novelization say he just sat in Arkham watching the chaos unfold? who reads novels especially when you could just see the movie Actually, back in the day, this was a fairly common practice. Back before home media was considered affordable, novelisations were a way for people to relive the movie once it finished showing in theatres. Sometimes even adding in new material, be it from stuff that was cut from the finalised movie or even its own material. In the Return of the Jedi novel, it relieved Anakin's subsequent demise to Obi Wan and why he needed the suit. I wasn't until Sith where we got to see this moment on the big screen. So yeah, while novelisations are falling increasingly out of relevance, they are still an interesting way to see what the movie could have had in the end.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2013 8:12:31 GMT -5
Since movie-Joker clearly isn't crazy (hell, standard Joker's kind of hard to argue for it half the time), I assume he was executed.
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Post by Citizen Snips Has Left on Jan 1, 2013 8:17:04 GMT -5
I always figured one of the SWAT guys just shot him after Batman left him hanging upside down in TDK.
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Post by mjolnir on Jan 1, 2013 8:46:35 GMT -5
The novel echoes something implied by the movie, all of Arkham's inmates are moved to Blackgate after the Dark Knight is the official memo they spin, under the new Harvey Dent act. There is one unofficial, unlisted inmate left in Arkham by Gordon and Batman in the highest of high security cells the asylum has, The Joker. Where he is completely cut off from the outside world and, which would be hell for somebody like him, completely isolated from contact with other people. It's implied that he's left to rot in Arkham, even when Bane takes over. As no Gotham born criminals would want him and the League of Shadows likely sees him as, like someone else earlier said, the prime example of Gotham's "disease". Or, you could go by a fan made series that Warner Bro.s has said they approve as being apart of the canon & Nolan apparently said it could be seen as an alternative in his canon after meeting with the writers of it. The Joker Blogs.
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Post by ZERO on Jan 1, 2013 9:57:00 GMT -5
The novel echoes something implied by the movie, all of Arkham's inmates are moved to Blackgate after the Dark Knight is the official memo they spin, under the new Harvey Dent act. There is one unofficial, unlisted inmate left in Arkham by Gordon and Batman in the highest of high security cells the asylum has, The Joker. Where he is completely cut off from the outside world and, which would be hell for somebody like him, completely isolated from contact with other people. It's implied that he's left to rot in Arkham, even when Bane takes over. As no Gotham born criminals would want him and the League of Shadows likely sees him as, like someone else earlier said, the prime example of Gotham's "disease". I agree with this. If anything else, Joker may have been quietly executed in the 8 year gap between TDK and TDKR. Part of me likes to think Joker escaped and disappeared. Just skipped town in that time. No Batman, no fun anymore.
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