StuntGranny®
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Post by StuntGranny® on Jan 19, 2013 16:42:37 GMT -5
Because honestly whenever I see him on TV I get instantly bored. He has a face that sucks all enjoyment and energy out of a situation. To be fair, I feel the same way about Sheamus, Del Rio, Cena, Ryback, etc. Personally, I would like to see him get a push.
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Tarik Dee
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Post by Tarik Dee on Jan 19, 2013 16:49:30 GMT -5
He needs to shave his head, grow his beard, change his name to Michael Hennig and bring back the witch cackle; I really like him but with all that I will like him even more.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2013 17:04:34 GMT -5
Not going to lie I haven't seen much of his work lately, but he's never really had any in-ring charisma and I have no desire to watch someone like that regardless of who his father is and what his ring work is like.
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BigWill
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Post by BigWill on Jan 19, 2013 17:08:09 GMT -5
McGillicutty just seems like another Ted DiBiase Jr. to me. Bland guys that likely would have been cut a while back had it not been for who their fathers were.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Jan 19, 2013 17:09:16 GMT -5
McGillicutty just seems like another Ted DiBiase Jr. to me. Bland guys that likely would have been cut a while back had it not been for who their fathers were. Both of those guys have a lot more charisma than they're given credit for.
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BigWill
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Post by BigWill on Jan 19, 2013 17:11:48 GMT -5
McGillicutty just seems like another Ted DiBiase Jr. to me. Bland guys that likely would have been cut a while back had it not been for who their fathers were. Both of those guys have a lot more charisma than they're given credit for. If they did, why can't they get the WWE or the audience get behind them?
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Post by metylerca on Jan 19, 2013 17:14:34 GMT -5
Does this thread mean whenever he's on TV losing, people will start getting in an uproar?
Not all guys are meant to be pushed to the top. In his chances to gain momentum, he shit the bed with bad promos and subpar performances. He was good in that tag team with Otunga, but they were solid, yet unspectacular.
Yes, its a shame he wasn't brought up a Hennig, because without the WWE name generator bullshit and a fair(er) shake, he might have gone over. But that's not how it went down, and to live audiences and viewing audiences, he's a lost cause. At the end of the day, that's all that matters in terms of televised wrestling. If it were another era, he'd have gone by now to hone his craft elsewhere, hopefully getting over there. But it isn't.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2013 17:29:50 GMT -5
He's the starting Quarterback for the Pittsburgh Steelers. What more do you need?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2013 17:48:29 GMT -5
Does this thread mean whenever he's on TV losing, people will start getting in an uproar? Not all guys are meant to be pushed to the top. In his chances to gain momentum, he s*** the bed with bad promos and subpar performances. He was good in that tag team with Otunga, but they were solid, yet unspectacular. Yes, its a shame he wasn't brought up a Hennig, because without the WWE name generator bulls*** and a fair(er) shake, he might have gone over. But that's not how it went down, and to live audiences and viewing audiences, he's a lost cause. At the end of the day, that's all that matters in terms of televised wrestling. If it were another era, he'd have gone by now to hone his craft elsewhere, hopefully getting over there. But it isn't. He's put on several excellent matches on NXT with different people. It's a small audience but he's over with the Full Sail crowd. He's gotten them to chant "Shah" when he punches and has gotten the McGuillicutter over. To say that he hasn't ignores what's been going on in NXT. He's probably going to be a midcard guy for life, maybe a tag team guy but he does have talent.
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Post by carp (SPC, Itoh Respect Army) on Jan 19, 2013 17:57:06 GMT -5
Both of those guys have a lot more charisma than they're given credit for. If they did, why can't they get the WWE or the audience get behind them? That's circular reasoning.
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Post by 01010010 01101001 01100011 on Jan 19, 2013 18:01:00 GMT -5
Both of those guys have a lot more charisma than they're given credit for. If they did, why can't they get the WWE or the audience get behind them? Ted Jr. did fine in Legacy until they Orton'd him and turned him bitch and then again with the DiBiase Posse stuff before injury. McG has just never got the chance as people want to hold 3 year old last second promo over his head instead of giving people chance.
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Post by BHB on Jan 19, 2013 18:14:12 GMT -5
Change his name to Joe Hennig and put him in a tag team.
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Post by PTBartman on Jan 19, 2013 18:25:25 GMT -5
They should team him with Flair's daughter. In fact there's the feud she recruits Mgillicutty/Hennig to help Steal back her Dad 's legacy from the Miz.
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Jimmy
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Post by Jimmy on Jan 19, 2013 18:36:01 GMT -5
McGillicutty just seems like another Ted DiBiase Jr. to me. Bland guys that likely would have been cut a while back had it not been for who their fathers were. That logic doesn't quite add up considering McGillicutty's dad is dead, so why would they be hesitant to fire him? Plus it didn't stop them from firing Dakota Darsow and Wes Brisco because they were terrible. Yes, its a shame he wasn't brought up a Hennig, because without the WWE name generator bulls*** and a fair(er) shake, he might have gone over. But that's not how it went down, and to live audiences and viewing audiences, he's a lost cause. At the end of the day, that's all that matters in terms of televised wrestling. If it were another era, he'd have gone by now to hone his craft elsewhere, hopefully getting over there. But it isn't. This is some reeaaaaaallllly bad logic. Ringmaster hasn't gotten over, we should probably just admit it's a lost cause. Hunter Hearst Helmsley? Solid talent, has an Intercontinental Title reign uner his belt, but he still isn't over and he isn't getting any younger. Total lost cause. Bradshaw? We gave him almost 8 years, but now it's February 2004. Better fire him. Simple fact is that in today's WWE, if you're not on RAW/SD than you are out of the fan's minds, which is both a positive and a negative. The positive is that anything McGillicutty did or didn't do in 2010 is ancient history, nobody even remember New Nexus and CM Punk, the longest reigning WWE Champ ever, was their leader! Same for Mason Ryan, Zeke, Bateman, and a hoard of other guys who haven't been on RAW/SD in a dog's age. So that means it's a fresh start.
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Post by Starshine on Jan 19, 2013 18:43:58 GMT -5
He's in that party of guys who need to change their name to really move up.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2013 18:48:27 GMT -5
Sure he should get a chance.
The current great lie of the WWE is that guys all have equal opportunities and could all get ahead if they really wanted to (And not to be too snippy, but it's a narrative I can certainly understand the McMahon family putting out there given their politics). It's the writer's jobs to put these characters into interesting settings. You have to put them in spots and see what sticks, you know? When was the last time McGillicutty was given a feud on a show that mattered?
I don't think he's had one yet. He was a secondary schmuck in Nexus, and when he got the tag belts his whole character was "boring guy in a backwards hat." Hell, Lawler flat called him boring on more than one occasion. The guy's not going to get any more seasoned at this point. He's been around so long that he probably doesn't have much improvement left in him on the developmental level. It's time to find someone the audience likes and send McGillicutty out there to smash them. Hell, Tyson would have been perfect for it if not for his recent injury. They work well together, and Mike getting jealous people are talking about Tyson could lead to a fun little feud that could make people care about both guys. Easiest thing in the world to try.
And that's the thing. They need to try. It might not work, but I'd imagine you could take away a recap or a comedy segment somewhere in the show and let two guys go out and see what sticks.
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Post by Jimmy on Jan 19, 2013 18:58:26 GMT -5
The current great lie of the WWE is that guys all have equal opportunities and could all get ahead if they really wanted to (And not to be too snippy, but it's a narrative I can certainly understand the McMahon family putting out there given their politics). It's the writer's jobs to put these characters into interesting settings. You have to put them in spots and see what sticks, you know? When was the last time McGillicutty was given a feud on a show that mattered?I don't think he's had one yet. He was a secondary schmuck in Nexus, and when he got the tag belts his whole character was "boring guy in a backwards hat." Hell, Lawler flat called him boring on more than one occasion. The guy's not going to get any more seasoned at this point. He's been around so long that he probably doesn't have much improvement left in him on the developmental level. It's time to find someone the audience likes and send McGillicutty out there to smash them. Hell, Tyson would have been perfect for it if not for his recent injury. They work well together, and Mike getting jealous people are talking about Tyson could lead to a fun little feud that could make people care about both guys. Easiest thing in the world to try. And that's the thing. They need to try. It might not work, but I'd imagine you could take away a recap or a comedy segment somewhere in the show and let two guys go out and see what sticks. I agree with everything you said, particularly the bolded part. Somebody with all the skill in the world isn't going to get over appearing in 2 minute squashes no matter how much they 'maximize their minutes' or whatever cliches the McMahons and JR want to use. Your hard work busting your ass in the ring (or in the gym, or on the mic, etc) should lead to an opportunity that allows you to get over, but most of the time in WWE it seems to be "thanks for the hard work in the midcard, but you're just not getting over so we're going to have to let you go".
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Post by Cela on Jan 19, 2013 18:58:26 GMT -5
He doesn't know when to stop running the ropes.
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Crappler El 0 M
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Post by Crappler El 0 M on Jan 19, 2013 19:39:40 GMT -5
From what I've seen of him, his best asset is his wrestling. His talking is okay, but not spectacular. He doesn't have the good looks of his father. I think the best bet is for him to find a tag partner he gels with. Guys like Barry Darsow, Jim Neidhart, Bobby Eaton, and Robert Gibson are examples of guys who had nice careers in tag teams, but they probably wouldn't have made it as singles stars. I think guys like McGillicutty could really benefit from finding a partner they gel with. At one time I thought it was going to be Husky Harris.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Jan 19, 2013 19:51:03 GMT -5
He's the starting Quarterback for the Pittsburgh Steelers. What more do you need? If they ever did an angle where McGullicutty get bopped on the head and thinks he's Ben Roethlisberger, I'll give WWE all my money.
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