agent817
Fry's dog Seymour
Doesn't Know Whose Ring It Is
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Post by agent817 on Feb 21, 2013 20:51:26 GMT -5
It seems like I work with a mark. When he discusses wrestling with me, he seems like he doesn't quite get that everything is a work but I try to talk to him like a smart fan. He is all acting like CM Punk will win the belt back and all this other stuff but I try to tell him that I am sure that Rock vs. Cena II was the plan the whole time and that Rock will drop the belt, but I don't think he GETS what I mean.
In a way, I kind of want to tell him that wrestling is a work, but in other ways, I kind of chuckle at his markdom.
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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Feb 21, 2013 20:56:52 GMT -5
Jeez, this makes me feel old. Before the Internet got big and even a while after it seemed like the only people I knew who watched wrestling were marks.
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Post by Brother Nero....Wolfe on Feb 21, 2013 21:00:20 GMT -5
No one I know is a mark in the "thinks wrestling is real" sense, but I know me and my friends only discuss wrestling in a marky sense. It's more fun that way.
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agent817
Fry's dog Seymour
Doesn't Know Whose Ring It Is
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Post by agent817 on Feb 21, 2013 21:07:10 GMT -5
No one I know is a mark in the "thinks wrestling is real" sense, but I know me and my friends only discuss wrestling in a marky sense. It's more fun that way. That would actually be fun to do, if someone to discuss wrestling in a kayfabe standpoint. People talk about movies and TV shows all the time like the characters are real, so why not do the same thing with wrestling? |
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mizerable
Fry's dog Seymour
You're the lowest on the totem pole here, Alva. The lowest.
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Post by mizerable on Feb 21, 2013 21:21:40 GMT -5
No one I know is a mark in the "thinks wrestling is real" sense I don't meet those people either, but I've gone to events and the discussion of such as to "who sucks" and "who kicks ass" is usually based around the actions of the kayfabe character. |
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Post by EvenBaldobombHasAJob on Feb 21, 2013 21:35:30 GMT -5
I have. it's kinda surreal. at the same time I sorta wish I could watch wrestling the way they do.
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Mochi Lone Wolf
Fry's dog Seymour
Development through Destruction.
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Feb 21, 2013 21:37:21 GMT -5
I have. it's kinda surreal. at the same time I sorta wish I could watch wrestling the way they do. Same here. Seeing the way some of these kids that go to these shows light up when their favorites come out is always pretty endearing to me. |
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Post by Ishmeal Loves Kaseyhausen on Feb 21, 2013 21:37:28 GMT -5
All the time. I work with Intellectually Disabled people. I'm convinced they're the audience WWE aims for.
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Post by celticjobber on Feb 21, 2013 22:13:03 GMT -5
Yeah, most wrestling fans I know in real life never get online to read news or anything about it. They just go by what happens on TV, like with any other show.
I don't think it's so much that they think it's real, but that they simply don't care about what's going on backstage. Only the hardest of the hardcore fans usually do that.
A guy I work with saw the Jack Swagger "Jake Hager" DUI story on the local news (I live in Biloxi, where he was arrested), and he wanted to know why a wrestler would use a fake name. So I tried to explain that WWE wants to own their stage names, so they can't go to another company and use it.
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Post by wwfmark on Feb 21, 2013 22:29:47 GMT -5
I have met a few people that talk about wrestling like that. Not full on mark where they think it's real but like half mark where some of the stuff they say you just aren't sure.
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Post by The Spelunker! on Feb 22, 2013 0:17:42 GMT -5
Almost everyone I know who isn't a hardcore wrestling fan.
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El Pollo Guerrera
Grimlock
His name has chicken in it, and he is good at makin' .gifs, so that's cool.
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Post by El Pollo Guerrera on Feb 22, 2013 0:19:21 GMT -5
I used to work with a guy who didn't think that it was real, but didn't know where the line between reality and wrestling was.
He thought Rob Van Dam was really related to Jean-Claude Van Damme.
He thought that the Undertaker and Kane really were brothers.
He thought that Eddie Guerrero was just taking some time off, and everything on TV about him dying was fake.
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Post by Larryhausen on Feb 22, 2013 2:42:20 GMT -5
I do it all the time.
Not to beat a dead horse, but it's common knowledge that I train and do ring crew with Championship Wrestling From Hollywood. Some of the regular crowd have noticed this, so I do my best to keep kayfabe, especially with the kids.
Kid: Excuse me sir, do you know if Johnny Yuma is around?
Me: I'm sorry kid, I think Johnny Goodtime chased him out of the building.
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thecrusherwi
El Dandy
the Financially Responsible Man
Brawl For All
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Post by thecrusherwi on Feb 22, 2013 11:35:37 GMT -5
No one I know is a mark in the "thinks wrestling is real" sense I don't meet those people either, but I've gone to events and the discussion of such as to "who sucks" and "who kicks ass" is usually based around the actions of the kayfabe character. Yeah many of the people that just come over to hang out during pay per views are part time fans that know its fake, but then talk about all the characters in kayfabe terms "I hate CM Punk. He's obnoxious. I hope Rock kicks his ass!!" Or "AJ is a bitch for doing that to Cena!" And stuff like that. |
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Post by Brother Nero....Wolfe on Feb 22, 2013 12:23:27 GMT -5
I don't meet those people either, but I've gone to events and the discussion of such as to "who sucks" and "who kicks ass" is usually based around the actions of the kayfabe character. Yeah many of the people that just come over to hang out during pay per views are part time fans that know its fake, but then talk about all the characters in kayfabe terms "I hate CM Punk. He's obnoxious. I hope Rock kicks his ass!!" Or "AJ is a bitch for doing that to Cena!" And stuff like that. Yeah, only with me "The most ridiculous/most insane" is the most often used factor to measure how fun a wrestler is, because apparently all my friends are hipsters. Gotta say, it's more fun watching wrestling that way. I generally watch wrestling just like a tv show. ...We should totally have a raw thread each week running in parallel to the regular raw thread were people are only allowed to post in kayfabe  |
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Post by Djm Doesn't Find You Funny on Feb 22, 2013 12:27:49 GMT -5
All the time. I work with Intellectually Disabled people. I'm convinced they're the audience WWE aims for. This is exactly why, when I see people say "I wish I could watch wrestling like a mark", my mind is blown by that idea. I don't want to look at wrestling that way. |
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Toxik916
Hank Scorpio
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Post by Toxik916 on Feb 22, 2013 13:50:51 GMT -5
When I'm watch wrestling i like to just get lost in the magic. Wrestling is so much more enjoyable when you allow yourself to get invested in the show. When you stop caring about backstage bullshit and watch what is being presented to you it makes you less cynical as a fan.
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Post by wrestlinggod13 on Feb 22, 2013 14:51:00 GMT -5
I mainly come into contact with people who know it's all a show, but they get the details wrong. For example, they don't believe me when I tell them about wrestlers blading. They're convinced that blood capsules are used, and they look at me like I'm an idiot for thinking they actually cut their foreheads. Some of them also believe that every little detail of the match is planned out and rehearsed before it takes place. As someone else pointed out, some of them think RVD is related to Jean-Claude, Big Show is related to Andre, Taker and Kane are brothers, Shane and Stephanie are actors hired to play Vince's kids, the ring mat is super soft and bouncy like a trampoline, etc.
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Post by Brother Nero....Wolfe on Feb 22, 2013 15:17:08 GMT -5
Shane and Stephanie are actors hired to play Vince's kids, the ring mat is super soft and bouncy like a trampoline, etc. To be fair, that's the most logical conclusion. "Surely insanity can't be genetic!" |
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HardKore
Hank Scorpio
Bork this company
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Post by HardKore on Feb 22, 2013 19:58:05 GMT -5
I worked with a guy a few years ago who was a wrestling fan and we had a few discussions about wrestling, and I thought cool someone to talk to about wrestling while I worked. He had watched an old ppv or something and he asked me how it was possible that Austin could pin Owen Hart with a broken neck and how the cover on Owen looked easy to kick out of and he couldn't understand how it happened, I was just stunned, I didn't have the heart to smarten him up, this guy was 21 years old and he didn't know wrestling was scripted.
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