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Post by ICBM on Aug 7, 2014 13:30:50 GMT -5
Cela, I cannot discern what the new spoiler tag is. People have tried to tell me and I look for what they described, it just isn't there on my screen.
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Post by Cela on Aug 7, 2014 15:19:49 GMT -5
Cela, I cannot discern what the new spoiler tag is. People have tried to tell me and I look for what they described, it just isn't there on my screen.
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Post by ICBM on Aug 7, 2014 17:39:17 GMT -5
Thank you {Spoiler}{Spoiler}Thank you cela. Lady stone heart sux tho
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Post by ICBM on Aug 7, 2014 17:39:39 GMT -5
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Aug 7, 2014 18:33:35 GMT -5
I've also read that the show is going to write Tystane Martel as Doran's "Son and heir". Even though he's not Doran's oldest child.
Wow. Way to miss the point, guys.
For those that don't know, in Dorne, the title of heir does not automatically go to the oldest male child of the ruling family. It's the oldest child overall. The oldest child of the Martell family is Arianne Martell. This is not like everywhere else where the oldest male inherits the lands. This was supposed to set Dorne as unique and prove that the male-dominated society of Westeros is completely by choice but obviously, David and Dan have completely missed that point. Why George doesn't.... I don't know... point that out to them is also beyond me.
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Aug 7, 2014 22:35:13 GMT -5
For all of our complaining about changes from the book to the show, I have to give them credit for one that I thought worked:
Ser Alliser Thorne. In the books, he's just a shit talker and doesn't really show himself as a fighter. He wasn't at Castle Black during the battle, he came with Janos Slynt and some reinforcements right before Stannis arrived. In the show, they allowed him to be a badass, experienced, fighter. Some background, he was sent to the wall by Tywin Lannister for being a loyalist to the Iron Throne during Robert's Rebellion. He was one of the few noble knights who survived the sack of King's Landing. So, you have to imagine he can kick ass when needed. It gave me new respect for him as a character that he wasn't just going to be some guy who talks without anything to back it up. A trope that's way too common in media. Plus I just love the way his actor says "Traitor's Bastard."
However, with that said, I hated how they treated Janos Slynt. I get he's a not a good guy and that he's corrupt, but he didn't just become the lord commander of the gold cloaks by accident, did he? I have to imagine he showed some skill as either a fighter or a commander somewhere.
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Post by Capt Lunatic on Aug 8, 2014 4:01:29 GMT -5
David and Dan have completely missed that point. Why George doesn't.... I don't know... point that out to them is also beyond me. However, with that said, I hated how they treated Janos Slynt. I get he's a not a good guy and that he's corrupt, but he didn't just become the lord commander of the gold cloaks by accident, did he? I have to imagine he showed some skill as either a fighter or a commander somewhere. I always imagined he just toady'd his way up the ladder. Like he'd do the shitty jobs (baby killin'/Ned Stark double-cross) nobody else would and always got rewarded for it.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2014 10:20:34 GMT -5
I've also read that the show is going to write Tystane Martel as Doran's "Son and heir". Even though he's not Doran's oldest child. Wow. Way to miss the point, guys. For those that don't know, in Dorne, the title of heir does not automatically go to the oldest male child of the ruling family. It's the oldest child overall. The oldest child of the Martell family is Arianne Martell. This is not like everywhere else where the oldest male inherits the lands. This was supposed to set Dorne as unique and prove that the male-dominated society of Westeros is completely by choice but obviously, David and Dan have completely missed that point. Why George doesn't.... I don't know... point that out to them is also beyond me. Given how most of the female minor characters in SoIaF are hookers, I don't think George has got a very good handle on sexual equality so maybe them missing out on absolute cognatic succession just doesn't stand out to him? I guess this is also why I'm holding out hope for a TES live series. Unlike every major fantasy series in live form, it'd be pretty much impossible to ignore women being half the military/nobility/rulership of most states, or risk sending almost the entire fanbase into a tizzy.
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Post by ritt works hard fo da chickens on Aug 9, 2014 2:17:01 GMT -5
www.danbarham.com/dinklage/Found this on Reddit today I can't close this tab, I know I should but... Dinklage PeterDinklage Peter Dink-a-lage PeterDinklagePeterDinklage Peeeeee ter Dinkuhlage
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Post by Nr1Humanoid on Aug 9, 2014 5:41:03 GMT -5
Can you imagine this show having gone the Legend of the Seeker route?
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Post by SsnakeBite, the No1 Frenchman on Aug 9, 2014 5:46:09 GMT -5
www.danbarham.com/dinklage/Found this on Reddit today I can't close this tab, I know I should but... Dinklage PeterDinklage Peter Dink-a-lage PeterDinklagePeterDinklage Peeeeee ter Dinkuhlage Hodor?
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Post by Goldenbane on Aug 10, 2014 21:02:15 GMT -5
Just a couple of questions...I know they don't have anything to do with seasons 3 and 4, but I was hoping for opinions anyway.
1. Rewatched the episode in season 2 with the battle of Blackwater. If Stannis had been delayed...who do you think would have won if a fight had broke out between Bronn and Sandor? Bronn is insanely tricky and can kick some ass when he wants to (and he seemed to really want to at that moment), but the Hound isn't stupid and I don't know if he would have fallen for the quick draw knife trick Bronn was going to try. Who do you all think would have won that?
2. Would any of you be okay with it, if HBO announced they were doing a prequel season to give George R.R. Martin more time for the books to catch up with the show? Like say, season 6 is a flashback season...beginning with the whole tournament that Rhegar Targarion wins and finally ending with Robert Baratheon taking the iron throne. We wouldn't have to worry about the actors being too old, since Ned and Rob are like 16 at the time, so it wouldn't be a big deal to recast them (and maybe there at the end of the season give Sean Bean a chance to come back and maybe cameo a bit). I've never read any of the books (yet, I mean to) but I've watched a ton of EPIC HISTORY videos on Youtube and I think all this stuff is fascinating. I have to admit a tiny part of me only wants to see it just for the battle between Robert and Rhegar alone...but I think that'd all be worth it. What do you all think, would a flashback season be okay and/or work?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2014 21:17:35 GMT -5
Just a couple of questions...I know they don't have anything to do with seasons 3 and 4, but I was hoping for opinions anyway. 1. Rewatched the episode in season 2 with the battle of Blackwater. If Stannis had been delayed...who do you think would have won if a fight had broke out between Bronn and Sandor? Bronn is insanely tricky and can kick some ass when he wants to (and he seemed to really want to at that moment), but the Hound isn't stupid and I don't know if he would have fallen for the quick draw knife trick Bronn was going to try. Who do you all think would have won that? 2. Would any of you be okay with it, if HBO announced they were doing a prequel season to give George R.R. Martin more time for the books to catch up with the show? Like say, season 6 is a flashback season...beginning with the whole tournament that Rhegar Targarion wins and finally ending with Robert Baratheon taking the iron throne. We wouldn't have to worry about the actors being too old, since Ned and Rob are like 16 at the time, so it wouldn't be a big deal to recast them (and maybe there at the end of the season give Sean Bean a chance to come back and maybe cameo a bit). I've never read any of the books (yet, I mean to) but I've watched a ton of EPIC HISTORY videos on Youtube and I think all this stuff is fascinating. I have to admit a tiny part of me only wants to see it just for the battle between Robert and Rhegar alone...but I think that'd all be worth it. What do you all think, would a flashback season be okay and/or work? 1. The Hound. With his health intact, he seethes with a rage that makes him a complete nightmare for anyone to fight. That, and Bronn values his life too much to risk a fight to the death if he has any way to get out of it. Like a bear or a wolf, a few mild wounds would probably be enough to get him to back off. 2. I wouldn't mind one or two flashback episodes, but an entire season seems like it'd really disrupt the rhythm of the show. GoT is so character-driven that it would probably anger a lot of fans, and I don't think doing that would ever be wise for the quality of the program or its legacy. On the other hand, I'm morbidly curious as to how bishonen they'd try to make Rhaegar. DeviantArt would crash from the sandstorm of uploaded fan pics.
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Post by mattperiolat on Aug 11, 2014 10:57:52 GMT -5
Just getting word that, four days into shooting the new season of Game of Thrones, actor JJ Murphy has died. Being reported by The Guardian.
Never watched the show, don't know the actor or character he plays, but wanted to give you all a heads up.
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Post by SsnakeBite, the No1 Frenchman on Aug 11, 2014 11:28:12 GMT -5
Just getting word that, four days into shooting the new season of Game of Thrones, actor JJ Murphy has died. Being reported by The Guardian. Never watched the show, don't know the actor or character he plays, but wanted to give you all a heads up. Dammit, I know this show loves to kill off characters but they went too far this time!
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Post by Johnny B. Decent on Aug 11, 2014 13:11:35 GMT -5
Just getting word that, four days into shooting the new season of Game of Thrones, actor JJ Murphy has died. Being reported by The Guardian. Never watched the show, don't know the actor or character he plays, but wanted to give you all a heads up. From a quick check, he was recently cast as Ser Dennys Mallister. RIP.
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on Aug 11, 2014 17:08:09 GMT -5
If Ser Mallister gets written off the show offscreen, this will be why.
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Post by Toates Madhackrviper on Aug 12, 2014 3:02:53 GMT -5
Regarding the prequel season I've actually wanted a season about the Robert's Rebellion period for awhile now. It might "offset the rhythm" like was said though if they did it in the middle of the show and also there's the HUGE problem of potentially revealing certain huge twists and reveals before they should be revealed. Like say... Jon Snow's parentage for example (coughcoughcoughcoughcough).
I want it to happen though if only to see if they go with my fancasting of Alexander Skarsgård as Rhaegar Targaryen (somehow one of my favorite characters despite being dead before the books and show started).
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Post by SsnakeBite, the No1 Frenchman on Aug 12, 2014 4:05:00 GMT -5
If Ser Mallister gets written off the show offscreen, this will be why. I doubt they'll write off an entire character because of that as, I don't know how important this character is in the books (no spoilers please, reading them ATM ) it would probably imply removing whole sections of the plot. My guess is that they'll work with what they have and either cut a few scenes he was supposed to appear in, have them happen off-screen and another character reports on them or have him played by a different actor for the remaining scenes, maybe by putting a cowl over his head or otherwise obscuring it.
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Post by Capt Lunatic on Aug 12, 2014 4:28:08 GMT -5
Regarding the prequel season I've actually wanted a season about the Robert's Rebellion period for awhile now. It might "offset the rhythm" like was said though if they did it in the middle of the show and also there's the HUGE problem of potentially revealing certain huge twists and reveals before they should be revealed. Like say... Jon Snow's parentage for example (coughcoughcoughcoughcough). As someone who has only watched the show...what's the big deal about Ned Stark and some camp wench?
{Spoiler} See I know the books point to something else, but the show has not even glanced in that direction
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