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Post by pegasuswarrior on Feb 26, 2013 11:34:29 GMT -5
I just don't see knaisic as mafia. Would be op for mafia to have that ability. Possibilities: Town Converted town Cult leader who has converted a governor. Knailsic: what is your position on peg and asher? Hayden: same question but also knailsic. Zack... you seem to be off most peoples radar. Where do you stand with everyone? Peg.. deleted.. will repost when others reply. Well, he says he didn't have such an ability. Says he has no idea why the lynch failed, so either he's lying or we take him at his word and therefore can't infer that he's Town from the fact that his lynch failed. Exactly. How do people not see this? It is mind-boggling to me.
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Post by Brandon Walsh is Insane. on Feb 26, 2013 11:50:48 GMT -5
I just don't see knaisic as mafia. Would be op for mafia to have that ability. Possibilities: Town Converted town Cult leader who has converted a governor. Knailsic: what is your position on peg and asher? Hayden: same question but also knailsic. Zack... you seem to be off most peoples radar. Where do you stand with everyone? Peg.. deleted.. will repost when others reply. Off people's radar? I'm not sure I follow. I feel like I've been dropping questions, the last of which is what led peg to start to denounce the game as a whole. As of right now, I see you, Jazzman, Jono and Orange as town. I still think you're playing a different game, and not sure how long you'll stay town. I'm leaning town on peg, but still am afraid he might have been converted to cult. Knailsic I think is lying, and I want to stick to the old philosophy of lynch all liars. If everyone suspected that he was saved due to governor position, and he says he doesn't know why, but then comes back and drops a line about other types of roles that can save a lynch... something doesn't gel with me there. However, ritt made a good point about maybe knail cannot be lynched, so do we revisit that avenue? That's where I am at there. The only other one that really stood out to me was stinger4christ. Feels like he just drops in, makes a vote, then leaves. Which is pretty odd gameplay. Hayden, no read, since he hasn't been active. That doesn't help us at all... but I feel like we'd waste a lynch since it's passed the initial information gather stage, and we really need to stop the mafia and cult from doing their thing. Yami... I feel like he defended himself pretty well. Town lean on him at the moment... but like the rest of the strong players, I fear that he may be converted. That's what scares me about peg, you, and Jazzman as well. If any of you are converted to cult, the trust that may have been made will have to be thrown away, and it may be hard to do that.
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Post by stinger on Feb 26, 2013 11:55:22 GMT -5
I just don't see knaisic as mafia. Would be op for mafia to have that ability. Possibilities: Town Converted town Cult leader who has converted a governor. Knailsic: what is your position on peg and asher? Hayden: same question but also knailsic. Zack... you seem to be off most peoples radar. Where do you stand with everyone? Peg.. deleted.. will repost when others reply. Off people's radar? I'm not sure I follow. I feel like I've been dropping questions, the last of which is what led peg to start to denounce the game as a whole. As of right now, I see you, Jazzman, Jono and Orange as town. I still think you're playing a different game, and not sure how long you'll stay town. I'm leaning town on peg, but still am afraid he might have been converted to cult. Knailsic I think is lying, and I want to stick to the old philosophy of lynch all liars. If everyone suspected that he was saved due to governor position, and he says he doesn't know why, but then comes back and drops a line about other types of roles that can save a lynch... something doesn't gel with me there. However, ritt made a good point about maybe knail cannot be lynched, so do we revisit that avenue? That's where I am at there. The only other one that really stood out to me was stinger4christ. Feels like he just drops in, makes a vote, then leaves. Which is pretty odd gameplay. Hayden, no read, since he hasn't been active. That doesn't help us at all... but I feel like we'd waste a lynch since it's passed the initial information gather stage, and we really need to stop the mafia and cult from doing their thing. Yami... I feel like he defended himself pretty well. Town lean on him at the moment... but like the rest of the strong players, I fear that he may be converted. That's what scares me about peg, you, and Jazzman as well. If any of you are converted to cult, the trust that may have been made will have to be thrown away, and it may be hard to do that. Yeah, except I just posted immediately before this trying to help figure out the knailsic situation even though I voted for Asher two days ago. So, I'm not just voting and leaving, thanks. For what it's worth, Knailsic is probably lying. I would switch my vote over to him (since obviously no one is coming with on the Asher thing), and I still might do it, but I'm afraid he is lynch proof, so we would just waste another Day Phase. But, if that's the only shot a lynch, I'll help make it happen so that we can know for sure if he's lynch proof or not.
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Post by Brandon Walsh is Insane. on Feb 26, 2013 12:08:40 GMT -5
You posted that just as I writing out my thoughts.
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Post by Triple H buried SnS on Feb 26, 2013 12:22:07 GMT -5
Exactly. How do people not see this? It is mind-boggling to me. My problem is that we need to hit mafia or Cult leader here. A cult follower won't be very helpful. And hitting town would be crippling. My point was that of all the possible scenarios, knailsic being the cult leader is the only truely favorable one, as there's no way I see that ability being given to mafia. The only way he could be mafia is if another town person is the governor and took a wild blindfire shot to save knailsic. If that is what we believe he is, by all means, I'll add my vote. But if not, we have bigger fish to fry.
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Post by Wolf Hurricane on Feb 26, 2013 12:47:56 GMT -5
I just don't see knaisic as mafia. Would be op for mafia to have that ability. Possibilities: Town Converted town Cult leader who has converted a governor. I don't see that as all the possibilities. Governors can prevent lynches, but they don't usually do so knowing whether or not the person they saved is mafia, town, or even third party. I see the possibilities as much bigger: he could be town, which means a successful lynch would be detrimental. However, that's just one in about four I've personally come up with, along with the two you mentioned. 1. The worst case scenario - he's town. 2. The bad, but not worst scenario - him and the governor are both cult members. (one of the possibilities you mentioned) 3. He's a cult leader who converted the governor (another possibility you mentioned) 4. A different possibility and possible triumph: He's a cult member/mafia/third party who was unknowingly saved by an unconverted governor. Either way, and I could be wrong about this, I think there's more information to be gathered from lynching him than by lynching Pegasus; and even if I'm wrong, we can still go after him tomorrow. Vote: Knailsic
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Post by BoilerRoomBrawler on Feb 26, 2013 12:59:37 GMT -5
Can the Governor block a lynch more than once? Can they block lynches on the same person multiple times?
I have a devious theory cooking in my head depending on the answer. One that I'd rather not say until the next Day.
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Post by MasonK565 on Feb 26, 2013 14:02:34 GMT -5
Voting: pegasuswarrior (3): Orange, Jazzman, Jonothan Michaels Knailsic (6): BoilerRoomBrawler, Produceman, pegasuswarrior, Yami Redgrave, Wolf Hurricane, SNS 3.0!! The Shareholder They Call Asher (1): stinger4christ
Not Voting: Zack Morris is Insane The Man They Call Asher Spiked Mohican (Hayden) Knailsic ritt
8 is needed for a lynch. The deadline is Wednesday, 10:00 p.m. CENTRAL TIME.
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Post by Yami Daimao on Feb 26, 2013 14:13:42 GMT -5
1. The worst case scenario - he's town. That's the one thing that worries me and has been making me question my vote on Knailsic; that we're wasting 2 Days trying to lynch a townie. But much like Pegasus, we can't let this linger for long, we need information. But then, what if Knailsic is lynch-proof? I've read that certain roles could be Hidden, meaning not even the player knows of their own role until after it's activated (what time the role is revealed to the player depends on the moderator). So maybe Knailsic is telling the truth when he says he doesn't know why his lynch was blocked. I don't know, so many factors to consider. Even though I've been second-guessing my vote, I'm still very willing to keep it if it means we gain some kind of information. I am just not looking forward to us paying the price and losing more townies if it is the worst case scenario. As for Pegasus, I think it was Jazzman who said it, but it is pretty impressive that Peg, being the great player that he is, has survived for as long as he has, whether or not we're dealing with rookie Mafia/scum as Jazzman brought up. He's quite the talker. If Knailsic is lynched this Day (and that's if he isn't lynch-proof), whatever he flips, I know who I have my sights on next Day phase. This Day appears a pretty crucial one.
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Post by Triple H buried SnS on Feb 26, 2013 14:29:07 GMT -5
Knailsic (5): BoilerRoomBrawler, Produceman, pegasuswarrior, Yami Redgrave, Wolf Hurricane For what it's worth, Knailsic is probably lying. I would switch my vote over to him (since obviously no one is coming with on the Asher thing), and I still might do it *Facepalm*
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Post by Triple H buried SnS on Feb 26, 2013 14:29:57 GMT -5
ebwop: Knailsic (5): BoilerRoomBrawler, Produceman, pegasuswarrior, Yami Redgrave, Wolf Hurricane For what it's worth, Knailsic is probably lying. I would switch my vote over to him (since obviously no one is coming with on the Asher thing), and I still might do it *Facepalm*
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Post by BoilerRoomBrawler on Feb 26, 2013 15:47:53 GMT -5
Well, that does look affirmative of your suspicions, doesn't it? But if even most of us voting against Knailsic are Mafia, would we make so obvious a collective move?
I'm sticking with Knailsic. Time is of the essence. Even so, you're suspicious of him too, so why not join us?
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Post by Knailsic From Now On on Feb 26, 2013 17:28:26 GMT -5
Knailsic: what is your position on peg and asher? Peg: I have to say if there's one person I'm 100% sure is town it's Pegasuswarrior, he seems to want to help town most but as town has been messing up recently he's gotten angry, which I completely understand. Asher: Not sure really, was WAY more active at the beginning but he said he's had IRL stuff so that could explain his recent inactivity.
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Post by stinger on Feb 26, 2013 17:56:24 GMT -5
ebwop: Knailsic (5): BoilerRoomBrawler, Produceman, pegasuswarrior, Yami Redgrave, Wolf Hurricane *Facepalm* 1. Do you really think everyone that you named earlier as Mafia are in first of all, in fact, mafia and, second of all, dumb enough to all vote for the same person? We would have to be playing with the most inept mafia ever. 2. It's easy to criticize what others are doing, but time is getting short and you haven't done anything. Maybe if you explain what your thought process is and make a move, people will follow. You are very clear that you think the mafia is piling on knailsic, but you don't offer any alternative course of action.
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Post by Triple H buried SnS on Feb 26, 2013 18:14:37 GMT -5
1. Do you really think everyone that you named earlier as Mafia are in first of all, in fact, mafia and, second of all, dumb enough to all vote for the same person? We would have to be playing with the most inept mafia ever. 2. It's easy to criticize what others are doing, but time is getting short and you haven't done anything. Maybe if you explain what your thought process is and make a move, people will follow. You are very clear that you think the mafia is piling on knailsic, but you don't offer any alternative course of action. Bit touchy. 1. Do I think they are all scum? Probably not. But all are suspicious, imo. And piling on did happen, 2-3 scum in that shortlist is not that far out of the question. And THAT is even more reason to think that knailsac isn't with them. 2. I have been(Produceman, asher, and peg...to an extent), but everyone seems set on knailsic. Even though it is claimed to be too late for this, maybe voting out knailsic would provide the information needed to turn this. Maybe mafia know something we don't. Maybe they have nailed the cult leader, and are now pushing for his lynch.
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Post by Orange on Feb 26, 2013 18:37:32 GMT -5
Knailsic: what is your position on peg and asher? Peg: I have to say if there's one person I'm 100% sure is town it's Pegasuswarrior, he seems to want to help town most but as town has been messing up recently he's gotten angry, which I completely understand. Asher: Not sure really, was WAY more active at the beginning but he said he's had IRL stuff so that could explain his recent inactivity. Well, if you're a person who believes that Knailsic, Asher and pegasus are all Mafia - this post is pretty telling. As for Asher, I'm not entirely sure what to think of him, but I lean Mafia. I know one thing for certain, though, and that's not all 3 of you guys can be town - so I'm leaning towards you all 3 being either all Mafia or a variety of Cult/Mafia.
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Post by pegasuswarrior on Feb 26, 2013 18:50:53 GMT -5
I want Knailsic knailed. We're not on the same team.
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Post by stinger on Feb 26, 2013 18:54:53 GMT -5
I want Knailsic knailed. We're not on the same team. That's a pretty clear statement. You better hope he flips scum if he gets lynched or everyone's eyes will be focused on you next day phase. I kind of appreciate the confidence/bravado, but we'll have to see how things shake out.
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Post by Jazzman on Feb 26, 2013 18:55:11 GMT -5
I want Knailsic knailed. We're not on the same team. You realize Peg, what this means for your game? I'm sure you understand the implications of being wrong on this... just checking to make sure.
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Post by pegasuswarrior on Feb 26, 2013 18:56:03 GMT -5
Folks, let's just try this:
Ok, who saved Knailsic last night? And why?
The fact that no one has tried to save his neck by admitting it yet speaks VOLUMES that it was scum brother that was Cult converted.
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