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Post by BoilerRoomBrawler on Mar 17, 2013 22:39:00 GMT -5
You're the only person that I've put my foot down as Mafia and yet here you are. Look at all the Townies who've been lynched because you were so certain. Look at how many Cult you've nailed (1 if we go by votes). There comes a point when you're not breaking eggs to make an omelet and you're just breaking them to break them. Fact is you're a fox in a hen house.
But I'll tell you what, PW. Let's give your Scum hunting skills one more try. We only risk losing the game at this point. Let's remove you from the equation entirely. Name me one more Scum and tell me why.
Added challenge: he must be Mafia. I know you don't like competition Cult, but there comes a point that they just don't matter.
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Post by pegasuswarrior on Mar 17, 2013 22:42:18 GMT -5
BRB's desperation, I mean. Not talking about Mason.
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Post by BoilerRoomBrawler on Mar 17, 2013 22:51:40 GMT -5
I figured. While we're clarifying... Ahem... [shoot]If I'm being overly obnoxious, just say so - anyone. Anyways, back into character.[/shoot] Ahem. The only thing worse than being Scum is being PegasusWarrior. Or a doodyhead. But I repeat myself. {Spoiler} But really, back to the game.
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Post by pegasuswarrior on Mar 17, 2013 22:58:04 GMT -5
You're the only person that I've put my foot down as Mafia and yet here you are. Look at all the Townies who've been lynched because you were so certain. Look at how many Cult you've nailed (1 if we go by votes). There comes a point when you're not breaking eggs to make an omelet and you're just breaking them to break them. Fact is you're a fox in a hen house. But I'll tell you what, PW. Let's give your Scum hunting skills one more try. We only risk losing the game at this point. Let's remove you from the equation entirely. Name me one more Scum and tell me why. Added challenge: he must be Mafia. I know you don't like competition Cult, but there comes a point that they just don't matter. I already answered this, Illitero. (Villain that can't read who goes by that name is a DC real thing, right? Has to be.) I targeted Wolf Hurricane. Either Produceman or Yami is vigilante. Orange is 100 percent town. If Produceman confirms, I go from there. Also, Im fine with waiting on Yami Redgrave as well. The lynch is way greater than the vigilante ability now because vigilante is moot role if we lynch Orange or me. So yeah, uncovering vigilante out of those two Makes the 67% situation a whole lot greater odds than just that, wouldn't you say? Oh, and I guess Mafia would be painting the numbers so clearly like that, right? I believe of I were Mafia I'd feel desperate too instead of pointing out the obvious way to win. Vigilante, Orange, PW: Town. If we just know which of the two is vigilante, welp, game over. And they didn't role claim it. It's the endgame. They survived. It's not cheating or poor gamesmanship. I know one of the two has to be, so their teammate is extracting the data so they don't have to browbeat the Mafia with it as a Town move of desperation. It's endgame. Which part of that don't you think is right, BRB? Are you as bad at math as you are reading? Zack Morris night kill was a response to my guarantees on him. If you or Yami or Produceman did that, it was because I told you flat out I had the information. They tested it and it was right. That move was MVP. But to think they already "knew" to be suspicious and to the extreme of launching a killing offensive is madness, BRB. An MVP move because it keeps us in the game--but I'm thankful they trusted my role, which they obviously still do after Asher was confirmed. And I targeted Wolf last night, so I don't have the privilege of confirming my role further with that shred of night ability. (Again, aftergame, just read my role--it'll make sense, this talk. Also, I'm already leaning desperation Mafia moves by you anyway, so the "come-at-ya" stuff doesn't mean a thing in the end ... unless of course I'm wrong and you are accidentally as sucky as you are playing it out to be.)
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Post by BoilerRoomBrawler on Mar 17, 2013 23:29:22 GMT -5
So you think there is one Mafia left? Or do you think Cult either failed one or more conversions or gave you a break on one or two Nights by deciding to skip a conversion or two?
There's one Cult left by sheer logic and there's no point in pursuing him now. He's an ally as far as I'm concerned.
Besides that, there is no Vigilante. Wolf was our killer - the Skitzo. That's why the bonus Night Kills lack a pattern. If I was a Vigilante, I'd use it every opportunity I had.
So between Orange, PW, Produce, and Yami there are two Mafia and a Cult who no one should give a damn about any more.
I already cast my vote, so who's your accomplice, PW? I'm gonna go with a pair of dead men who could communicate by Night. Asher and Wolf didn't seem too high on Produceman, and considering Wolf's role, he probably had good reason if he managed to investigate Produce.
FoS: Produceman
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Post by Orange on Mar 17, 2013 23:33:35 GMT -5
Yeah, I don't really see any way that Produceman could be town. I mean, if he is, he's playing a really odd town game - but I've never really gotten 100% town vibes from him.
If we choose to throw the lynch that way, I'd more than be down for that.
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Post by pegasuswarrior on Mar 17, 2013 23:37:40 GMT -5
Yeah, I don't really see any way that Produceman could be town. I mean, if he is, he's playing a really odd town game - but I've never really gotten 100% town vibes from him. If we choose to throw the lynch that way, I'd more than be down for that. Willing to listen. Gonna wait for the honeymoon and hear what he comes back with.
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Post by No Longer a Produceman on Mar 17, 2013 23:43:53 GMT -5
Got a few spare minutes.
100% town, not vigilante.
Vote: Boiler Room Brawler
I'm very confident you're scum, buddy.
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Post by Orange on Mar 17, 2013 23:49:47 GMT -5
Well, that didn't tell me too awful much.
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Post by Orange on Mar 17, 2013 23:56:29 GMT -5
Of course, I also get that you're busy, and you can only say so much.
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Post by BoilerRoomBrawler on Mar 17, 2013 23:56:55 GMT -5
Okay, okay, I retract the "Mafia Godfather can investigate" claim. I just checked it on the Mafia Wiki. I had it wrong. Honest misconception.
So, while I believe PW to still be Mafia, he's not Godfather...
Unless he's lying about his role. Who knows who Zack Morris investigated until he was Night-Killed? Mafia has nothing to lose with lynching Townies "for information." This is especially true if they have a Cop, meaning twice the information every round (Day + Night). Mafia isn't looking for Mafia or for Town - they're looking for Third Parties aka competition. So what if they have to sacrifice one of their own here and there? Look where we are: we are one wrong lynch away from losing. This is as good an outcome as any for Mafia if they kept their eye on the prize and hope Town falls for it just one more time.
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Post by BoilerRoomBrawler on Mar 17, 2013 23:59:17 GMT -5
And yeah, regardless of you voting for me, Produce, or me fingering you (hey minds out of the gutter), hope you're having the time of your life. Ahem, back to the game again.
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Post by BoilerRoomBrawler on Mar 18, 2013 0:01:29 GMT -5
If I'm lynched, Mafia really does win. However, I get to watch Town kick themselves in the heads when they realize why I'm so sure that PW is Mafia.
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Post by pegasuswarrior on Mar 18, 2013 0:18:46 GMT -5
I've got to hear from Produceman again. Why did he not vote for me? What good does it do to drag out the game? One vote already on me. Why didn't he wait until sure thing before voting? Why wouldn't he wait and vote for me if Mafia? If he ends up flipping scum, I have to say that was a questionable (bad actually) move on his part.
So yeah, I don't know why he wouldn't have voted for me if he was mafia. That would've made it one step closer to a done deal.
I'm actually interested to hear what everyone else thinks on that too. Seriously, for the sake of figuring it out.
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Post by MasonK565 on Mar 18, 2013 2:50:34 GMT -5
I have to make sure this is clear too. BRB thinks that because now it's evident I can investigate (what he said) that Godfathers have power to investigate. That PLUS have a Mafia Cop? They investigate twice a night, roleblock (Lodi) AND slay during the night? Two investigative roles is what you're saying Mafia has? Masons already f'ed us with the crazy power of not limiting cult (you kill one during the night and they just recruit another, so what's the point of even being a Townsperson--it's moot). And on top of that he just makes up the same role for two separate Mafia members? Desperation reeks. Sigh, lololol, will discuss this in the after thread. There are ways to limit such by not being boring and setting a plain, unoriginal player limit as to what Pegasus feels is the only way to run the game. Continue, please. The suspense is killing me. Remember, as this game goes on, more words will get harsh. No one take offense to words please, it is just a game.
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Post by MasonK565 on Mar 18, 2013 10:53:35 GMT -5
Mod's Note: All scum is bad scum. I don't want anyone to think their is any less of danger in a scum being a scum(bag). Just want to make this clear for some first time players.
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Post by BoilerRoomBrawler on Mar 18, 2013 12:48:41 GMT -5
I understand that all Scum is bad. I also understand that a Cult without a Leader for going on a 3rd of the game and with at least one failed conversion is not as big a threat as a Mafia that probably is 2 of the remaining 5 players. They're just not a concern any more.
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Post by BoilerRoomBrawler on Mar 18, 2013 12:53:08 GMT -5
Also, not to be selfish, but I hope Yami's situation clears up soon. Of course, I'm sure he hopes the same, if for different reasons. It'd be nice to see him weigh in. Between him and Producr it feels more like it's just me, Orange, and PW...
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Post by Yami Daimao on Mar 18, 2013 15:49:43 GMT -5
Good news, I have internet access at the hospital(!). Bad news is, I don't think I'll be as frequently active as I wish to be, but I'll try. Luckily I have some time now.
Quite a lot to analyze so far. But for now, per my planned directions from the previous Day:
FOS: Pegaus FOS: Produceman
Wolf's death definitely changes some things. My thoughts in my next post.
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Post by MasonK565 on Mar 18, 2013 15:54:43 GMT -5
Voting: Pegasuswarrior (1): BoilerRoomBrawler BoilerRoomBrawler (1): Produceman
Not Voting: Yami Redgrave Pegasuswarrior Orange
There are now 5 of you left. Day Phase ends Friday Night at 5 p.m. CENTRAL TIME. Sorry the write up took so long. Lynch needs 3 votes.
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