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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2013 1:39:55 GMT -5
So f***ing stupid Triple H won. I swear when the news broke out they signed Brock Lesnar to a new concert Triple H probably got so excited with the concept of oh boy I can finally bury the one who got away.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2013 2:19:04 GMT -5
Brock then goes on to injure his father in law, and goad Triple H into this match where I think it was fair that Triple H won, especially when you consider the shit Triple H had to do to beat him, Pedigrees, keylock for ten minutes, sledgehammer, low blows. He had to dig far deeper than John Cena did that first match. And that's fine, but again...what's stopping other people from digging that deep? Shouldn't digging deep be a means of finally conquering someone who seems damn near invincible? This whole booking of Lesnar has been so half assed. Hell, if Triple H HAD to win a feud with Lesnar, it would have been more reasonable if it was Lesnar's last match. And this wasn't. So where do we go? Taker? Sheamus? What are they supposed to prove that both John Cena and Triple H already have? Or is Lesnar just supposed to be some other guy? I believe it kills the credibility of the guy they brought in that was booked to bring "legitimacy" to wrestling. And he's been trumped by the two opponents he has faced already. I guess the only reason why one should be worried is if he's facing a midcarder, who doesn't get any attention anyways. In that case, then I know he won't be getting any revenge on Lesnar. See why none of this works? I think even if they wanted Lesnar to lose, they could at least use his appearances to have him destroy opponents in matches. He's has 3 matches in about a year's time, and lost 2 of them. It's a really tough spot that WWE find themselves in with Brock, with the limited appearances contract that he has. As far as I know he's technically only supposed to wrestle, what, like 3 matches a year? So do you really spoil one of those with a match with Zack Ryder, so Brock gets a good win under his belt? Knowing that Brock doesn't have the schedule that allows Zack Ryder to get any modicum of revenge? Brock is in WWE for the money, and WWE has Brock because it's smart business. I'm certain that if WWE was confident they could just make a new Brock Lesnar they'd see his contract terms and tell him to f*** off. I think one thing WWE is doing right is making Brock Lesnar kind of a seasonal TV series, Brock comes in, picks a fight with someone, they have their feud, Brock takes off for a while until the next "season" begins. They have so little time to really do anything too extensive that I really don't know how much better it can get. With that in mind my defense for Lesnar's loss to Triple H, and let`s be serious, the losses that are to come, is simply that as long as the story is fun to watch, and we can get more awesome Brock Lesnar matches, I`m not gonna be too analytical. So I`m not really disagreeing with what you`re saying, in a perfect world Lesnar should be untouchable, not a single person on the roster can kick a guy`s ass as convincingly as him. But it`s kind of hard to justify him coming in and beating everyone when he`s even more part time than the Rock.
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Post by EyeofTyr on Apr 8, 2013 2:23:16 GMT -5
Triple H almost got Lesnar to tap 3 times and essentially won clean. I think the aura of "the monster" Brock Lesnar is gone.
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Post by celticjobber on Apr 8, 2013 2:25:37 GMT -5
I thought it was a horrendous match, slow, boring, and way too long. And Brock should've went over.
I actually enjoyed their match at Summerslam. This one was just really off for some reason.
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Post by mizerable on Apr 8, 2013 2:29:49 GMT -5
It's a really tough spot that WWE find themselves in with Brock, with the limited appearances contract that he has. As far as I know he's technically only supposed to wrestle, what, like 3 matches a year? So do you really spoil one of those with a match with Zack Ryder, so Brock gets a good win under his belt? Knowing that Brock doesn't have the schedule that allows Zack Ryder to get any modicum of revenge? Brock is in WWE for the money, and WWE has Brock because it's smart business. I'm certain that if WWE was confident they could just make a new Brock Lesnar they'd see his contract terms and tell him to f*** off. I think one thing WWE is doing right is making Brock Lesnar kind of a seasonal TV series, Brock comes in, picks a fight with someone, they have their feud, Brock takes off for a while until the next "season" begins. They have so little time to really do anything too extensive that I really don't know how much better it can get. With that in mind my defense for Lesnar's loss to Triple H, and let`s be serious, the losses that are to come, is simply that as long as the story is fun to watch, and we can get more awesome Brock Lesnar matches, I`m not gonna be too analytical. So I`m not really disagreeing with what you`re saying, in a perfect world Lesnar should be untouchable, not a single person on the roster can kick a guy`s ass as convincingly as him. But it`s kind of hard to justify him coming in and beating everyone when he`s even more part time than the Rock. I just don't think it's great business that WWE sign a former UFC champion, a guy who gained international acclaim through that...and they aren't utilizing him better. What is the UFC fan who casually tunes in going to see? It's just bad booking on WWE's part. And much like their booking, if that's the deal they struck with Lesnar (only 3 matches a year), then they SUCK at dealing contracts as well. Afterall, they provided one of the stupidest deal with Goldberg a decade ago.
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Post by mattperiolat on Apr 8, 2013 3:28:39 GMT -5
I was like Bart in the Kamp Krusty episode of The Simpsons, just kept whispering to myself "HHH is jobbing, HHH is jobbing", especially after Taker won and I knew Cena would win. Sadly, was not happening.
As for the match itself... well... Sorbo, help me out here.
Better than SummerSlam, but not by much says it all. Why HHH is still an active wrestler, I have no idea. It especially did not help going on after Taker/Punk and that match demonstrated that perhaps any shortcomings the last two matches Taker had may have had more to do with HHH and not with Taker.
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Post by Emmet Russell on Apr 8, 2013 3:50:48 GMT -5
Match pissed me off.
Pretty sure we all knew it was a HHH redemption story, and I hated it. Which is a shame because I really like Lesnar but this was not good. I feared it was starting to become as bad as HHH and Steiner when it became repeated belly to belly suplexes but at least it didn't get that bad. The mere thought of HHH tapping out Lesnar had me infuriated and the ending was called by my younger brother as soon as the match started.
Also; Lesnar needs to keep away from the steel steps, they are his Achilles heel
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Post by Free Hat on Apr 8, 2013 4:24:48 GMT -5
Shitty booking aside, the whole structure of the match just felt awkward to me. They spent the first ten minutes establishing Lesnar's dominance and building towards a Triple H comeback, which is fine. The problem is that it didn't feel like anything really happened in that ten minutes. There was like one big spot, a couple of belly to bellies, a few clotheslines, and a whole lot of standing around. By the time Trips starts his comeback it doesn't really feel like they've built to anything at all, which is kind of a problem because the comeback STARTS with a f***ing Pedigree. Then they do the whole kick out of each other's finisher thing, which was undoubtedly designed to be an "epic" moment, but didn't come off that way because they did absolutely nothing to set it up.
Then Brock goes back to dominating for a bit and they do the goofy Kimura crap and then the steps and then the end. Just a really, really strange match.
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Post by Metalheadbanger Man on Apr 8, 2013 4:35:02 GMT -5
I was fine with it, even though it dragged a little in the middle. I'm still not sure having HBK there was entirely necessary, seeing as how all he did was take out Heyman as opposed to getting his own retribution on Lesnar. Lesnar looked like a beast, and it still took a sledgehammer shot and a Pedigree on the steps to finish him.
I'm just wondering if the rubber match will be Hell In A Cell or something.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2013 4:38:59 GMT -5
I was fine with it, even though it dragged a little in the middle. I'm still not sure having HBK there was entirely necessary, seeing as how all he did was take out Heyman as opposed to getting his own retribution on Lesnar. Lesnar looked like a beast, and it still took a sledgehammer shot and a Pedigree on the steps to finish him. I'm just wondering if the rubber match will be Hell In A Cell or something. If they have another match I will kill a lot of dreams with a hammer and nails. Somehow. Seriously I disliked their Summerslam match (after rewatching it I should say, I enjoyed the spectacle the first time, but a repeat viewing killed it), and 'Mania was something else on the dreadful scale. If Daniel Bryan and The Rock had that same match I'd probably eat the hammer and nails, and then down the misery meal with a bunch of concentrated acidic pestilence. If they have another match I will cry, weep openly, and then remember that brent was spared the shame of eating a clog. DAMN IT, WHY IS LIFE SO UNFAIR?!
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Post by Totorob101 on Apr 8, 2013 4:43:12 GMT -5
Think we can all agree this was a massive buriel of Lesnar. Hunter made him look bad but then he always does that to talent. The match was the worst i have ever seen honestly, and it was down to Triple H making Brock look like a chump in my book. The things Hunter gets away with at times is criminal, would have loved it if Brock said screw it in the match and just legit beat the hell out of the game. I cant stand Triple H and after last night, i hate the guy even more.
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Post by CM Parish on Apr 8, 2013 6:04:53 GMT -5
How is it a burial when you have to low blow, smash his arm with a chair twice, lock said arm in a kimura lock three times and still not have him tap, DDT him onto some steel steps, hit him in the face with a sledgehammer and pedigree him on some steel steps just to beat him?
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Post by blues on Apr 8, 2013 6:18:14 GMT -5
Very brutal match, that clothesline in the beginning look nasty when Lesnar landed on what looked like his head/neck.
But it did not do anything for me tbh. Was hoping for some outside surprise interference or something to spice it up.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Apr 8, 2013 6:22:57 GMT -5
I just felt sad because the crowd only started to react with the brutality ratchet up. It was like a wake before then. I wasn't mad about the outcome because they already gave away the finish when Triple H had his career on the line.
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Post by Dan Gerous on Apr 8, 2013 7:10:37 GMT -5
A 43 year old wrestler beat a 35 year old former world champion Ultimate Fighter. And the 43 year old happens to be the bosses son-in-law. Lesnar has now been pinned by Cena and HHH since he's been back, so he isn't much of a "monster" apparently. Yep.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2013 7:14:21 GMT -5
I called it weeks ago. Not only the match outcome, but the excuses people would use to justify it. "HHH needed to do X, Y, and Z to beat Lesnar". Who cares? It pretty much destroys any drawing power Lesnar would have since he has lost more times than he has won in the last year, and the whole ending sequence was laughably stupid since the finish was essentially as clean as you could get in that type of match (HHH no-selling everything and putting on a really bad looking Kimura).
I'm sure Lesnar doesn't care as he is getting paid millions to work 2 matches a year, but I thought the WWE would be smarter on how to use him. They should have gone with Rock/Brock while it still meant something.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2013 7:18:48 GMT -5
Terrible psychology in the match.
In a MMA match you tap after 3 seconds of being in a kimura, you don't fight it off for 5 minutes.
Then on top of that HHH gets slammed twice on steps by a 300 pound man and no sells it.
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Post by Branimal on Apr 8, 2013 7:19:37 GMT -5
I thought it was an OK match but nothing amazing - the crowd really didn't do it any favors. Oddly, I had the highest hopes for this match over the others. The thing that bothered me was the fact that when Lesnar broke the Kimura two times in a row, he didn't think to move his arm or roll away? Eh.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2013 7:29:46 GMT -5
The storytelling in this feud only made sense for Brock to be beaten from pillar to post.
I wanted to see Brock to tap and then HHH to quote, unquote "break his arm." I can't recall the last time I've marked out so hard as when I thought they were actually going to have Brock tap to HHH. I don't think I would have stopped smiling for weeks.
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Post by wallabylikeyou on Apr 8, 2013 8:27:03 GMT -5
Suplex, suplex, suplex.....suplex.
The one saving grace is that they didn't have Triple H make Lesnar submit to the Kimura Lock, when it looked like a certainty.
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